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Old 09-24-2018, 11:25 AM
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Rod Rosenstein -- place your bets, quickly!


Question one: is he getting fired or has he resigned?

Question two: will he do interviews/write a book/otherwise go public in the near future about the White House dumpster fire?

My guesses: fired, yes, within three weeks.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...d-taping-trump

https://twitter.com/samstein/status/1044241756366262272

https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...lans-to-resign

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Old 09-24-2018, 11:28 AM
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Rosenstein is going to the White House, Trump is not at the White House, so...fired. Trump never does it personally.
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Old 09-24-2018, 11:29 AM
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It's the Chief of Staff's job to do it. It's not that Trump doesn't want to - he probably doesn't but it's irrelevant. The Chief of Staff handles all personnel matters.
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Old 09-24-2018, 11:29 AM
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They will claim he has resigned and he will dispute it.
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Old 09-24-2018, 11:55 AM
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They will claim he has resigned and he will dispute it.
and the chaos will distract from problems with the Kavanaugh confirmation.
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He always looked to me like a man who did not spend enough time with his family.
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The start of a slow motion Saturday Night Massacre. Will Donald find someone with the scruples of Robert Bork to fire Mueller?
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He always looked to me like a man who did not spend enough time with his family.
Trump, on the other hand, is a man who has spent far too much time employing family in roles that they are not competent to hold. When all of your children are Fredo, you should really outsource more often.

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The start of a slow motion Saturday Night Massacre. Will Donald find someone with the scruples of Robert Bork to fire Mueller?
In the GOP? You can find someone with the scruples of Charles Manson.
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The start of a slow motion Saturday Night Massacre. Will Donald find someone with the scruples of Robert Bork to fire Mueller?
Kavanaugh might be available.
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The start of a slow motion Saturday Night Massacre. Will Donald find someone with the scruples of Robert Bork to fire Mueller?
This slow motion massacre actually started on May 9, 2017. This one is moving really slowly, but it's heading toward a similar end, I think.
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In the GOP? You can find someone with the scruples of Charles Manson.
Your post reminds me of when former congressman/convict Jim Trafficant was chastised for comparing the IRS to a bunch of prostitutes during a speech on the floor of the House, and then he quickly apologized to the prostitutes of America.

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I am starting to think we have a Schrödinger's Rosenstein - Fired and Resigned at the same time.
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I am starting to think we have a Schrödinger's Rosenstein - Fired and Resigned at the same time.
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1. He will not resign - he will be fired.

2. If the White House tries making the claim that yeah, no, the guy totally resigned, I imagine that Rosenstein will publicly, and forcefully, refute it. But other than that, I don't imagine him doing many (any?) interviews or media appearances anytime soon.

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Nothing happening today. Trump meeting with Rosenstein Thursday.

Same day as the Kavanaugh hearing.
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Assuming that Rosenstein is out of a job one way or another, what next? Can whoever takes his spot simply demand to know everything that Muller has and promptly report it to Trump?
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Old 09-24-2018, 01:50 PM
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Question one: is he getting fired or has he resigned?

Question two: will he do interviews/write a book/otherwise go public in the near future about the White House dumpster fire?

My guesses: fired, yes, within three weeks.
Fired, yes, ??.

I'll say within 2 months. If he takes closer to a year, it means he's pumping up sales of his book. My WAG is that he won't optimize around that, but who knows?
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What Trump might do is wait until the election is over and then clean house at Justice/FBI--starting with Sessions, Rosenstein, Mueller...
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Old 09-24-2018, 02:31 PM
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What Trump might do is wait until the election is over and then clean house at Justice/FBI--starting with Sessions, Rosenstein, Mueller...
Don't forget the other things on Trump's 2019 to-do list: get Mexico to pay for the wall, find Obama's real birth certificate, re-hire Omorosa (he had no idea that John Kelly was firing her!), and lose ten pounds.
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Nothing happening today. Trump meeting with Rosenstein Thursday.

Same day as the Kavanaugh hearing.
I'm sure that's merely a coincidence. I mean, they wouldn't try to use this as a distraction from Ford's testimony or anything, right?
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“THE STRATEGY WAS TO TRY AND DO SOMETHING REALLY BIG”: TRUMP WANTED TO NUKE ROSENSTEIN TO SAVE KAVANAUGH’S BACON: https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018...vanaughs-bacon
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Apparently when Rosenstein left the White House today, John Kelly walked him to his car and shook his hand. There's some minor commentary on how weird that is, but no one seems to know what to make of it.
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I think that Trump will leave him in, and then Rosenstein will recuse himself.
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I think Trump is being advised again and again not to do anything that would tip the midterms against him and his party, but I could also see his firing being used as a way to distract from his Kavanaugh troubles. Rosenstein and Sessions are gone by December though.
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My prediction is he will either be fired this thursday, or last through the midterms.

I lean towards last through the mid-terms. Rosenstein apparently offered a verbal resignation and Trump would have been stupid not to take it if he really wanted to do that now. And he could have done it right then, not wait til Thursday.

My guess is they're convinced that Rosenstein said this sarcastically, and are still trying to figure out the optics of firing him or not. I think at this point they know firing Rosenstein and Sessions isn't going to affect the Mueller investigation much or at all, and will do nothing but look bad.

That said, I don't think either of them is going to make it to 2020. They'll be gone soonish.
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Trump hinted today he might not meet with Rosenstein tomorrow. Because of the Kavanaugh hearing.
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I'm betting that Rosenstein won't resign.
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He should wear a wire.
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He should wear a wire.


I can totally see Trump patting him down, looking for a wire, or maybe having a couple of goons do it for him.
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In any case, it is now clear that Democrats have to win both the house and senate or this country is finished.
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In any case, it is now clear that Democrats have to win both the house and senate or this country is finished.
The country has survived a couple,of invasions, a civil war over the issue of slavery, periodic financial meltdowns, the Viet Nam conflict, Richard Nixon, and The Hottie and the Nottie. Rosenstein being fired wouldn’t be a great day, but it’s not going to end the country. And whiel the Democrats will probably retake the House with a healthy majority, they’re unlikely to retake the Senate in the midterm election, though their chances keep improving every time Trump tweets some new misogyny.

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I'm not sure that we have actually survived the Civil War yet.
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I'm not sure that we have actually survived the Civil War yet.
While there are some people who don’t want to give up and accept that the CSA lost, they’re in a minority. We’re still living with the artifacts of slavery—some built directly into the Constitution and structure of the federal government—but it has been illegal to buy and sell human beings for over a century and a half. The Democrats winning the Senate won’t change history and suddenly make everything smell like roses and honey, and losing it won’t destroy the nation.

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Donald cancelled their meeting today. FWIW.
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Donald cancelled their meeting today. FWIW.
John Kelly probably wasn't available to protect Twumpy from having to actually to nut up and actually follow through on his threats.

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Donald cancelled their meeting today. FWIW.
Of course he did; he's a coward.

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Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, whose office manages the Russia investigation, is planning to leave the Justice Department shortly after William Barr, the President's nominee for attorney general, is confirmed, a source familiar with his thinking said.
The source said Rosenstein is not being forced out, and he has conveyed his thinking to the White House. The move may be the clearest signal to date that special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation is close to wrapping up.
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To anybody in a position to do so who may be reading these words. Don't count on trump to release the report, in whole or in part. Send a copy to the media. The American people paid for that report and have a right to see it.
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Now that Rosenstein has said he will resign soon, Trump will find it necessary to fire him even sooner, just to show who's boss. It's not like he's going to be any nicer to Rosenstein than he was to Mattis.
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Several months after Dopers were predicting:

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Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who appointed special counsel Robert Mueller to investigate Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election, submitted his resignation letter to the White House Monday.
It is effective May 11.
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