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So at what point is Trump subpoenaed to testify? What happens then?
Kindasorta related, at 10:00 EDT Wednesday a panel of the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals will hear an appeal of a decision forcing Mazars (CFSG's accounting firm) to hand over eight years of financial records to the Manhattan District Attorney. This is the case in which CFSG's lawyers argued that a sitting President is immune from any legal proceeding regarding his actions before or during his tenure — an argument which Judge Victor Marrero called "repugnant to the nation's governmental structure and constitutional values."

What makes this at least tangentially related to the topic at hand is that in the same ruling, the judge also cast doubt on the DOJ Office of Legal Counsel opinion that a sitting President cannot be indicted:
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In his 75-page opinion, Marrero wrote that the theory holding that a president cannot be indicted "has gained a certain degree of axiomatic acceptance, and the DOJ Memos which propagate it have assumed substantial legal force as if their conclusion were inscribed on constitutional tablets so-etched by the Supreme Court.” His view, however, was different: “The Court considers such popular currency for the categorical concept and its legal support as not warranted.”
Whether this part of the ruling is addressed in the appeal isn't apparent. If it is, and the judge's opinion is upheld … better lay in lots&lots of popcorn.
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Can he be unethical if he is too stunted intellectually to understand what ethics actually are?
Of course he can. Ethics are manifested through behavior, not understanding. If his intellect is so stunted that it can't guide him ethnically then he is still, by definition, unethical.
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Of course he can. Ethics are manifested through behavior, not understanding. If his intellect is so stunted that it can't guide him ethnically then he is still, by definition, unethical.
Undoubtedly his behavior is unethical. I have no question about that.
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