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Old 04-14-2019, 08:49 AM
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"The card says 'moops'". To the degree that they think about it at all, what do you expect? It's technically legal, it's good for them, and if they believe that voter fraud is an actual problem (which they believe), it's a good thing that poor people can't bus their friends in.

We're fucked.
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Old 10-19-2019, 08:15 AM
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This story is old news but is too delicious not to repost.

Briefly, it involves former Colorado Republican Party chairman Steve Curtis who's a staunch opponent of voter fraud and said "every case of voter fraud I can remember in my lifetime was committed by Democrats." Recently felony charges were brought in Colorado against a voting fraudster(*) — read the article to see if the fraudster was a Democrat, as Curtis predicted. (No, like most voter fraud it wouldn't have been prevented with ID. Are you having trouble following the discussion?)

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Yes, you guess it! — the felonious voting fraudster was ... Steve Curtis himself.
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Old 10-20-2019, 08:23 PM
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Sorry,
With 30 Million plus illegal aliens, I expect only Citizens to vote. Not, confused Mexicans that forgot to go home after their vacation 30 years ago.
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Old 10-20-2019, 08:42 PM
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Sorry,
With 30 Million plus illegal aliens, I expect only Citizens to vote. Not, confused Mexicans that forgot to go home after their vacation 30 years ago.
Repeating a lie does not make it the truth.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...-about-30-mil/
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Our ruling

Trump said the number of illegal immigrants "could be 3 million. It could be 30 million."

Both figures are not within the range of possibility. Every credible estimate we found was in the 11 million range, with a margin of error of around 1 million. The figure has "always" been 11 million, in recent years, because of the flow of undocumented immigrants in and out of the United States.

We rate Trump’s claim Pants on Fire.

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Old 11-07-2019, 07:41 AM
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I have heard rumors that Republicans deliberately mount obstacles to voting by blacks or by others likely to vote Democrats. Apparently there is some foundation to this!

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... And not everyone in the state had an activist like Johnson to help them. When Donald Trump eventually won Wisconsin with a 22,000-vote lead, political analysts found that in the city of Milwaukee alone there was a 3% lower turnout, or 41,000 fewer votes cast, than four years before.... The same year, 600,000 people in Texas were estimated to lack the IDs needed to vote under the state’s strict guidelines.
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many have been aggressively pushing poll closures in communities of color with phony pretexts.... Ten per cent of Georgia’s counties were left with a single precinct for all voters, with some having to travel miles to cast their votes. Outranking Georgia, Texas had 760 poll closures and Arizona had 320.
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Et cetera.
Et cetera.
Et cetera.
In America's defense, some other countries have democracies as corrupt as America's — Kosovo is cited as an example.

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Old 11-07-2019, 08:21 AM
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I have heard rumors that Republicans deliberately mount obstacles to voting by blacks or by others likely to vote Democrats. Apparently there is some foundation to this!



In America's defense, some other countries have democracies as corrupt as America's — Kosovo is cited as an example.
You're just finding out about this now?

And these "rumors" have been pretty well-documented for quite a while now.

https://www.brennancenter.org/issues...te-suppression

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-wo...een-modern-era

https://www.gregpalast.com/assault-on-voting-rights/

https://www.gregpalast.com/tag/vote-suppression/

https://www.aclu.org/issues/voting-r...er-suppression

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression

https://www.aclu.org/facts-about-voter-suppression

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...r-suppression/
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Old 11-07-2019, 09:27 AM
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Here's a tricky moral dilemma for me. Part of me wants to give Republicans a little credit in the self awareness department for knowing and recognizing that they can't win fair elections, and that the voice of the people is not on their side.
But another part of me doesn't.
I know, if I gerrymander my brain into lopsided segments maybe that will help me decide.

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