#1  
Old 01-10-2020, 12:44 PM
Saint Cad is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: N of Denver & S of Sanity
Posts: 13,773

Web programmers that can't do their job


Signed up for an account on a website
Account requires verification sent to your email in order to activate
Website never sends email - even with "resend"
Therefore you can never get an account

Not the first time this has happened.
  #2  
Old 01-10-2020, 12:46 PM
PastTense is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 7,991
You need to check your spam folder to see if the message is there.
  #3  
Old 01-10-2020, 12:48 PM
Bijou Drains is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 10,157
That's what happens when the programmers are in the 3rd world/Russia/Eastern europe/.etc making 20% of what US guys make.

A lot of places now realize those low pay rates are not worth it due to crap software they produce.

old joke: they asked astronaut what he thought right before lift off. "1 million parts in this rocket, all built by the lowest bidder"
  #4  
Old 01-10-2020, 12:51 PM
QuickSilver is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Posts: 19,940
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bijou Drains View Post
old joke: they asked astronaut what he thought right before lift off. "1 million parts in this rocket, all built by the lowest bidder"
Even the monkey refused to go.
__________________
St. QuickSilver: Patron Saint of Thermometers.
  #5  
Old 01-10-2020, 12:54 PM
QuickSilver is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Posts: 19,940
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saint Cad View Post
Signed up for an account on a website
Account requires verification sent to your email in order to activate
Website never sends email - even with "resend"
Therefore you can never get an account

Not the first time this has happened.
Don't be so quick to judge. Sometimes the mail servers are down. But do check your spam folder.
__________________
St. QuickSilver: Patron Saint of Thermometers.
  #6  
Old 01-10-2020, 01:21 PM
TroutMan's Avatar
TroutMan is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 5,106
The distinction is not important to the consumer, but there's probably a 5% chance that this is a programmer issue. Most likely it's your email provider marking it spam, your email application moving it to Junk, or the network/DevOps people messing something up.

I leave off "the user entered their email address wrong" because Dopers are too smart for that, but it's a very common cause in the rest of the world.
  #7  
Old 01-10-2020, 03:28 PM
Hari Seldon is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Trantor
Posts: 13,422
I have a similar problem. Paul Krugman supposedly has a newsletter. I clicked the site to sign up for it and said okay you are registered without asking where to send it. That was a month ago and I've not received anything. When I tried signing up again it said I was already signed up and that was the end of it.
  #8  
Old 01-10-2020, 05:18 PM
Senegoid is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Sunny California
Posts: 15,321
There's another oddball quirk I've come across:

Some people choose e-mail names with a dot in them, like Firstname.Lastname@somewhere.com

Some e-mail software (on either client or server side) seems to do quirky things with that, like ignoring the dot. So if you are FirstName.Lastname@somewhere.com then it's possible, for example, that somewhere.com will send your e-mail to FirstNameLastName@somewhere.com instead.

I get mis-directed e-mail like from time to time.
__________________
=========================================
  #9  
Old 01-10-2020, 05:59 PM
Zyada is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Apr 1999
Location: Foat Wuth!
Posts: 5,419
Quote:
Originally Posted by Senegoid View Post
There's another oddball quirk I've come across:

Some people choose e-mail names with a dot in them, like Firstname.Lastname@somewhere.com

Some e-mail software (on either client or server side) seems to do quirky things with that, like ignoring the dot. So if you are FirstName.Lastname@somewhere.com then it's possible, for example, that somewhere.com will send your e-mail to FirstNameLastName@somewhere.com instead.

I get mis-directed e-mail like from time to time.
Gmail ignores periods and anything after a plus sign when receiving emails.

The latter is a good way to identify where spam is coming from if you use it correctly.
  #10  
Old 01-16-2020, 11:35 PM
atimnie's Avatar
atimnie is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 4,355
It could be your email messing up. Try different email accounts.
__________________
Wait, you can do signatures?
  #11  
Old 01-16-2020, 11:42 PM
steronz is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Oh-hiya-Maude
Posts: 5,282
Web developer here. Sending emails is trivial, I'd say there's a 0.01% chance this is the programmer's fault. Programmers don't typically control the server environment. The web server needs to talk to the email server, the email server needs to be able to talk to a mail relay, and the mail relay needs to pass the smell test of whatever server ultimately receives the email. The problem with email in general, from a developer perspective, is that it's a black hole. You fire off emails, you have no idea if they ever get anywhere. Unless your business is sending emails, that's pretty much the extent of any logging a developer can do -- "Sorry boss, application says the email was sent. Check with <anyone else>."
  #12  
Old 01-17-2020, 12:10 PM
lingyi is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 2,536
A couple of months ago I signed up with a site and didn't get my password emailed to. At first they claimed it was just me, but a few days later they said all they were having issues with all rr.com addresses.
  #13  
Old 01-17-2020, 11:43 PM
EinsteinsHund's Avatar
EinsteinsHund is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: NRW, Germany
Posts: 3,330
Quote:
Originally Posted by steronz View Post
Web developer here. Sending emails is trivial, I'd say there's a 0.01% chance this is the programmer's fault. Programmers don't typically control the server environment. The web server needs to talk to the email server, the email server needs to be able to talk to a mail relay, and the mail relay needs to pass the smell test of whatever server ultimately receives the email. The problem with email in general, from a developer perspective, is that it's a black hole. You fire off emails, you have no idea if they ever get anywhere. Unless your business is sending emails, that's pretty much the extent of any logging a developer can do -- "Sorry boss, application says the email was sent. Check with <anyone else>."
Yes. At programming level, you have the possibility (and actually the duty) to verify the email address for proper format. Where the actual email address that's processed leads to is not in the realm of the programmer.
__________________
And if my thought-dreams could be seen
They’d probably put my head in a guillotine

Last edited by EinsteinsHund; 01-17-2020 at 11:48 PM.
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:50 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

Send questions for Cecil Adams to: cecil@straightdope.com

Send comments about this website to: webmaster@straightdope.com

Terms of Use / Privacy Policy

Advertise on the Straight Dope!
(Your direct line to thousands of the smartest, hippest people on the planet, plus a few total dipsticks.)

Copyright © 2019 STM Reader, LLC.

 
Copyright © 2017