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Old 05-13-2018, 05:01 PM
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Do the rental car companies still consider Saddle Road off-limits?
No. Was there in March. I took a tour to the top nad was glad I did. Was a bit woozy at 4000 meters.

4wd (not awd) is a must. As well as knowing how to use low gears and how to avoid overheating brakes.
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Do the rental car companies still consider Saddle Road off-limits?
I don't think so. The car we rented in March had no such restrictions. It did in the past, long ago during our last time there. I think I heard they stopped it in general.
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By now, you've all probably seen that stop-action video of the lava covering that car. But look to the left of the car, and you will notice what is an R2D2 mailbox. That's what the car owner was really pissed off about losing. Said it had been a gift from his daughter. Also said that car had been stolen I think it was three times, now covered with lava. That's one cursed car.
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Old 05-13-2018, 06:42 PM
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By now, you've all probably seen that stop-action video of the lava covering that car. But look to the left of the car, and you will notice what is an R2D2 mailbox. That's what the car owner was really pissed off about losing. Said it had been a gift from his daughter. Also said that car had been stolen I think it was three times, now covered with lava. That's one cursed car.
(Saw the car owner interviewed on TV)

The guy who owned that car had a small local rental car business. He and as many of his friends that he could gather were moving all his cars to a safe location. When he finally got to that car, it wouldn't start and the lava was closing in. If it would have started normally, he could have moved it, but the time necessary and the logistics of bring another car to jump it to the dangerous location just didn't make sense, so he had to just let it go.
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Old 05-14-2018, 12:10 AM
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Also said that car had been stolen I think it was three times, now covered with lava. That's one cursed car.
On the upside - the car will never be stolen again, what with becoming part of a geological formation.
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Old 05-15-2018, 12:49 AM
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Fissure No. 19 opened this morning in the Lanipuna Gardens subdivision, spewing lava. They keep comparing this flow with the 1955 eruption, which lasted three months and resulted in 24 fissures.

Big Island reservations through July are down 50% year-on-year, with the cost to the economy estimated at $5 million.

Shot of Kilauea taken from the International Space Station
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Old 05-15-2018, 10:28 AM
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Ripon, Wisconsin.
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Old 05-15-2018, 11:58 AM
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Fissure No. 19 opened this morning in the Lanipuna Gardens subdivision, spewing lava. They keep comparing this flow with the 1955 eruption, which lasted three months and resulted in 24 fissures.
Well you know what they say--fissure cut bait.

(No, I'm not sure what I mean by that either.)
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Old 05-15-2018, 01:47 PM
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Well you know what they say--fissure cut bait.

(No, I'm not sure what I mean by that either.)
I'm sure there's a good set-up in there somewhere, to turn that into a suitably groan-worthy pun.

However, I'm not making any Pele jokes right now. Here's my story why:

When the first pretty large quake (the 5.4) hit, I was kind of jazzed. True fact: big Indonesian gongs sound spectacular in a quake. They begin reverberating and emit the purest, most spooky, wonderful tones. My gongs are about to be set up at the local cultural center (6 days from now, yay). So I almost sent a jokey email to the people I know at the center, saying something along the lines of, "wow, it will be so cool if that happens when the gongs are set up - you're going to love it."

But as I was about to hit the "send" button it occurred to me that some of them might live closer to the epicenter or the lava flow and might not be in the mood for levity about our current geological uproar. So I hit "delete" instead.

BOY AM I GLAD I DID. Turns out two board members are severely affected: one, a pottery sculpture, lost years of his work when his entire studio was destroyed in the 6.9 quake. Another is worried sick as her home hasn't been swallowed by lava but definitely could be next.

Thank god, I almost made myself look like an insensitive asshole. Which I probably am, but at least I managed to hide it this time.
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Old 05-15-2018, 02:26 PM
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Well you know what they say--fissure cut bait.

(No, I'm not sure what I mean by that either.)
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I'm sure there's a good set-up in there somewhere, to turn that into a suitably groan-worthy pun.
Maybe something about Mt. Killawhale?

Eh, I got nothin'.
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Old 05-16-2018, 08:03 PM
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It's spewing rocks now. Pics at the link; story too. Haven't found any video yet.
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Old 05-16-2018, 09:51 PM
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Can't keep the golfers down though.

http://www.golf.com/tour-news/2018/0...k-round-photos

How close is the course? About 1.5 miles. Map at: use satellite view.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Vo...!4d-155.277191

Hey, the volcano crater/caldera at Kilauea is downwind from the course - for now.
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Old 05-19-2018, 01:14 AM
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I've been pretty busy this week. In a nutshell, 22 fissures now, while yesterday morning was some sort of explosive eruption in the summit itself, but probably not the explosive eruption they've been waiting for. The lava just crossed a main road today, cutting off one escape route. May start entering the ocean soon.

And a week ago, a Letter to the Editor in the local paper asked a question I've been wondering about. Some people have been allowed back in when possible to retrieve belongs ... and pets. ??!? Who would leave their pets behind in the first place to be met with a possible lava death? The mind boggles.
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Old 05-19-2018, 01:32 AM
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Who would leave their pets behind in the first place to be met with a possible lava death? The mind boggles.
It's not necessarily voluntary. One story, recalled from memory: pet owner has two dogs, and suddenly all hell breaks loose: ground shaking, fissures erupting, fumes, etc. One dog runs away, one dog stays with the owner.

Emergency personnel come by and demand immediate evacuation. Owner has one dog, calls out in vain for other dog, which has disappeared.

Authorities are all, "hey! Out of the pool! NOW!" so owner leaves with one dog, worried sick about the other but unable to do anything since other dog has fled.

In subsequent days, owner is allowed back into the area of their home, and desperately tries to find missing dog (successfully in the story I am vaguely recalling).

As for me, I'm just pleased that County officials have made it clear that shelters and procedures are being designed to accommodate pets. I've seen other emergencies where the standard rhetoric was more along the lines of, "What? You think we give a shit about your pets? No way, humans only." I can understand that approach if it is absolutely necessary, but it heartens me to think that on Hawaii, there is more consideration being given to our non-human companions.
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It's not necessarily voluntary. One story, recalled from memory: pet owner has two dogs, and suddenly all hell breaks loose: ground shaking, fissures erupting, fumes, etc. One dog runs away, one dog stays with the owner.

Emergency personnel come by and demand immediate evacuation. Owner has one dog, calls out in vain for other dog, which has disappeared.

Authorities are all, "hey! Out of the pool! NOW!" so owner leaves with one dog, worried sick about the other but unable to do anything since other dog has fled.

In subsequent days, owner is allowed back into the area of their home, and desperately tries to find missing dog (successfully in the story I am vaguely recalling).
I can only hope that is the case.
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First lava-related injury. Some guy was watching the flow from his third-floor balcony when some flying lava caught him on the leg. Story here.

Fissures 16 and 20 are merging, and the flow is heading rapidly to the coast. It's crossed and blocked one of the few roads out of the region now.
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First lava-related injury. Some guy was watching the flow from his third-floor balcony when some flying lava caught him on the leg. Story here.
There's a link at the end of that story: http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/3...l-spewing-lava

The top of the page is over 230 images, some from satellites and some from right up close; they are amazing. I gotta tell y'all, one of my life's mottos has always been "don't take chances take risks" but when I look at most of those pictures of lava spewing and oozing over huge swaths of land, pretty much every fiber of my being screams NO NO NO NO NONONONONONONONONO and just wants to get the fuck away from the lava and the volcano and the ash and the toxic fumes... and I'm comfortably far away in Las Vegas. How the hell can you live close enough to spewing magma that it's a realistic possibility that you'll get hit in the leg by it and be so casual as to just go hang out on your balcony so that it actually happens?
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There's a link at the end of that story: http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/3...l-spewing-lava

The top of the page is over 230 images, some from satellites and some from right up close; they are amazing. I gotta tell y'all, one of my life's mottos has always been "don't take chances take risks" but when I look at most of those pictures of lava spewing and oozing over huge swaths of land, pretty much every fiber of my being screams NO NO NO NO NONONONONONONONONO and just wants to get the fuck away from the lava and the volcano and the ash and the toxic fumes... and I'm comfortably far away in Las Vegas. How the hell can you live close enough to spewing magma that it's a realistic possibility that you'll get hit in the leg by it and be so casual as to just go hang out on your balcony so that it actually happens?
They've done this for a loooong time. those golfers up in post 62 during the current eruption playing along? Here's another photo from the 1924 eruption - Crowd at the Volcano House Hotel posing for pictures with the explosion in the background. They are the same 1.5 miles from the crater as the golfers.

https://volcanoes.usgs.gov/vsc/image..._731w_500h.jpg

More photos from the 1924 boomer at: https://volcanoes.usgs.gov/volcanoes...alemaumau.html
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I remember as a kid seeing on television some guy that liked to sculpt lava. He would approach a flow wearing a heat suit (or whatever it is called), grab some lava with a loooong metal ladle, drop it in a bucket of water, and while the rock is still soft enough to shape but firm enough to hold the shape, use other metal tools to make (of necessity pretty simple) shapes from that. I always remembered that as one of The Coolest (but not literally) Things Ever.

Also, it is dissapointing that there aren't any nice kimberlite volcanos around now. It'd be fun to wait for a flow to cool and go chip out some fresh diamonds.
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They've done this for a loooong time. those golfers up in post 62 during the current eruption playing along? Here's another photo from the 1924 eruption - Crowd at the Volcano House Hotel posing for pictures with the explosion in the background. They are the same 1.5 miles from the crater as the golfers.

https://volcanoes.usgs.gov/vsc/image..._731w_500h.jpg

More photos from the 1924 boomer at: https://volcanoes.usgs.gov/volcanoes...alemaumau.html
Those golfers are probably pretty safe. The ash cloud looks bodacious, but that's not where the lave is coming from, and I think the prevailing winds are carrying the ash away. I think they're too far to be affected by the cow-sized boulder missiles.

I think it's 23 fissures now, and the lava is pouring into the ocean. They're warning of "laze," lava-haze, which is poisonous.
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