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Old 08-11-2019, 06:45 PM
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Mods, please move this as you see fit. I am using Ultimate Guitar tabs for Jeff Beck's "Too much to lose" and there is a symbol I'm not at all familiar with.

It looks like a reverse/backwards '3' immediately preceding the fret number. It's also very slightly lower than the fret number, almost like a subscript, except that the font seems to be the same size as the fret number. Something like ---------E10------8------ where the 'E' is like a reverse '3'.

Does anyone know what that is? Thank you very much.
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Old 08-11-2019, 07:38 PM
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It's a quarter rest sign.

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Not sure how it works in with your song but I'd venture whatever that segment of your tab should be played with more of a staccato feel.
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Old 08-11-2019, 08:09 PM
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It's a quarter rest sign.

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Not sure how it works in with your song but I'd venture whatever that segment of your tab should be played with more of a staccato feel.
Ah, I wish it were so. Picture this, though the Ɛ is about a pixel lower than the 10. Is a typo possible?

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-------Ɛ10-------
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Old 08-11-2019, 08:17 PM
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Are you sure it isn't an "8"?

What do you HEAR there in the original recording? - IMO tabs should be considered a guide to help you work things out with your ears, not taken as gospel.

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Mods, please move this as you see fit.
Cafe Society is our usual home for questions about music theory, so let's move it to there (from GQ).
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Old 08-11-2019, 09:05 PM
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It's a quarter rest sign.

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Not sure how it works in with your song but I'd venture whatever that segment of your tab should be played with more of a staccato feel.
I don't think you'd see a rest sign in tab -- usually tab indicates fingering, but not rhythm, at least not with that kind of precision.

Could it be a very small 8 (as in eight)? Indicating a grace note, or hammer-on, or something?

Like 810
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Old 08-11-2019, 09:09 PM
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Mods, please move this as you see fit. I am using Ultimate Guitar tabs for Jeff Beck's "Too much to lose" and there is a symbol I'm not at all familiar with.

It looks like a reverse/backwards '3' immediately preceding the fret number. It's also very slightly lower than the fret number, almost like a subscript, except that the font seems to be the same size as the fret number. Something like ---------E10------8------ where the 'E' is like a reverse '3'.

Does anyone know what that is? Thank you very much.
Can you link to the tab?
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Old 08-12-2019, 03:54 AM
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Looking at the 16th measure of this, it looks like a small 8 like Saintly Loser indicates. A very blurry 8, none the less, when I enlarge the screen.
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Old 08-12-2019, 04:11 AM
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I agree you have to isolate those measures and slow them down. Use a program like Transcribe! or ASD (Amazing Slow Downer).

I use the ASD App on my phone. Set it to loop and play a few seconds of the music. Slow it down to 70%.

Then you can study the Tab and see for sure what they are notating in the 16th bar.

That's a pretty difficult tab. A lot of slides and bends. I'd start with the 1st measure and verify that the tab is reasonably accurate.

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Old 08-12-2019, 04:20 AM
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I suspect the 8 10 is a slide to that note. They forgot the curve line.

Compare to measure 5.

7 9 with a curve line. A slide.

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Old 08-12-2019, 05:40 AM
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Looking at the 16th measure of this, it looks like a small 8 like Saintly Loser indicates. A very blurry 8, none the less, when I enlarge the screen.
I would read that as a hammer on
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Old 08-12-2019, 06:49 AM
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Hi all, I just looked at the actual source document online and it is indeed what Saintly Loser said.

Thanks everybody!
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