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Old 08-14-2019, 08:16 PM
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Setting aside issues of whether the armor, clothes or uniforms are accurate, I get the feeling that Hollywood knows zilch about the military except as a sort of really cool theme park.What they get wrong: senior officers who are not frostily formal, especially with lower ranks. Lower ranks and ordinary soldiers who argue with officers, or show less than the usual respect. "Uh, yes, soldier, that's a great idea, now report for latrine cleaning duties. For the next week."

Military hardware. Everything thing from anachronistic rifles (Lee-Enflields in the back ranks in Zulu) to vehicles. Given, for example, the shortage of authentic WW2 planes and vehicles, you get used to seeing some creative substiitutions. Frankly, the only answer is CGI.

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And, in fact, the horse probably found the water in the first place. They require upwards of ten gallons a day and can smell a water hole a lot further off than Cowboy Bob can.

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Exactly - anybody who has ever needed to rely on their horse to stay alive on a trip understands this, they are not machines, they are pretty delicate for their size.

What chapped my ass was a documentary back in the late 80s/early 90s about going on pilgrimmage to Jerusalem, and a bunch of assholes rode several sets of horses to death between France and Jerusalem. I guess all their research never pointed out that you only really rode about 6 hours of a day, and you stop for a day every 3 or 4 days, and for really bad weather ... you can not ride day in and day out for weeks and weeks at a time ... I want to horsewhip the assholes who killed off horses to make a tv show ...
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Old 08-14-2019, 08:32 PM
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On the other hand, I grant that it is unrealistic, but can horses be trained to drink moderately, or pretend to drink? If the horse were trained to drink and the scene required several takes then there might be a danger of the actual horse getting overwatered.
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Old 08-14-2019, 09:46 PM
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Any death by gunshot, prior to Bonnie And Clyde (1967 movie). The Magnificent Seven and the Dollars trilogy are certainly great movies, but they show people shot and instantly dead, without a visible mark on their bodies. That looks ridiculous to a modern audience.
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Old 08-14-2019, 09:56 PM
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(Turning on lights in a warehouse, etc.)

Sounds like turning circuit breakers on or off. click...click..click...click... I used to work in a 2,000 foot industrial space, and at the end of the day, five clicks followed by the squeak and clank of closing the door on the breaker panel, and the lights were out. No big ka-WHUNK, and no mechanized chack-chack-chack-chack-chack as the lights are sequenced on or off down the length of the building.


What pulls me out of a story is wrong telephones. Things like a phone with modular plugs in the 50s or as happened in Rocketman, phones on the wrong continent. As I wrote in the Goofs section at IMDB: "The phone next to the bed at Mama Cass' house is British - a GPO 722, which would not work in the US as among other things, it has the wrong kind of plug."
Well, I work in Sports Lighting, and I can assure you that (older) lighting controls make a HUGE clunk when they are turned on. I once nearly crapped in my pants when we activated a 1960’s-vintage contractor. It sounded like a gunshot!
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Old 08-15-2019, 10:07 AM
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An episode of Monk did that once. Monk and Natalie were trying to determine whether the suspect could have made it from her home in Richmond (where she had an alibi) to the victim's house in Novato by the time the murder took place on a motorcycle. Cut to a montage of them riding through... downtown San Francisco. Anyone who actually knows where Richmond and Novato are knows you would never drive through San Francisco to travel between the two cities.
In a similar vein, The Graduate had Benjamin traveling from Southern California to Berkeley to stop Elaine's wedding and using the top deck on the Oakland Bay Bridge... which is westbound. I guess he felt he had time to stop for some take-out in Chinatown.
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Old 08-15-2019, 04:58 PM
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An episode of Monk did that once. Monk and Natalie were trying to determine whether the suspect could have made it from her home in Richmond (where she had an alibi) to the victim's house in Novato by the time the murder took place on a motorcycle. Cut to a montage of them riding through... downtown San Francisco. Anyone who actually knows where Richmond and Novato are knows you would never drive through San Francisco to travel between the two cities.
Monk was absolutely terrible with San Francisco, well, everything. Drinking at a bar that was still open at 5am, SF native Adrian Monk calling freeways "The 101," Obvious blue and white LA streetsigns, SFPD having jurisdiction all over the Bay Area, saying things like "That's the 4:30 BART from San Jose!" or "It's 20 minutes to Monterey County, let's go!"

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In a similar vein, The Graduate had Benjamin traveling from Southern California to Berkeley to stop Elaine's wedding and using the top deck on the Oakland Bay Bridge... which is westbound. I guess he felt he had time to stop for some take-out in Chinatown.
And he was driving eastbound, which means they had to shut down traffic on the Bay Bridge to get that shot, during the day, which blows my mind.
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Old 08-15-2019, 07:27 PM
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Well, I work in Sports Lighting, and I can assure you that (older) lighting controls make a HUGE clunk when they are turned on. I once nearly crapped in my pants when we activated a 1960’s-vintage contractor. It sounded like a gunshot!
OK, so I momentarily forgot about relays and contactors. Still a crack, rather than the stereotyped ka-HUNK!

Do the big lighting systems still use electromechanical devices? I'm assuming it's moving to DMX control with silent triacs or small relays inside the instruments that just go >tick<.
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Old 08-16-2019, 08:57 AM
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And he was driving eastbound, which means they had to shut down traffic on the Bay Bridge to get that shot, during the day, which blows my mind.
Hmmm. He's on the suspension (western) end of the bridge and that looks more like San Francisco than Yerba Buena Island ahead of him. Also, the camera is on the shady (north) side making west to the right. Sure looks like he's driving west to me.
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"That's the 4:30 BART from San Jose!"
That reminded me of another bad one from Monk: "He's probably fleeing by train -- check San Bruno, or maybe Millbrae." The only trains you can catch there are Caltrain, which can only take you as far as Gilroy. All the Amtrak trains run through the East Bay. I mean, it is possible to take Caltrain to San Jose and transfer to Amtrak there, but it was strongly implied that the suspect was taking a long distance train from San Bruno, not a commuter train. They even showed a full on train station with indoor seating, not the sort of platform Caltrain uses.

Psych was equally bad with Santa Barbara, doing things like showing people jogging on trails through lush coniferous forests, nothing like the sort of flora you'd find in that area. Vancouver might be able to stand in as a generic North American city in many cases, but it looks nothing like Santa Barbara.
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A subset of the 'unnecessary noises' category- animals cannot enter a scene without making a noise. Snake species that are silent in the rest of the world nevertheless hiss in Hollywood. Cats meow, occasionally closed mouthed, at the sight of a camera. Plus that hawk that lives in every desert, and the ubiquitous frogs.

It doesn't seem to matter at all if the noise is appropriate or not, and any animal with an open mouth means a roar; this is admittedly not Hollywood, but it's a somewhat extreme silly example, from a team that really, really should know better.
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Old 08-16-2019, 05:25 PM
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Hmmm. He's on the suspension (western) end of the bridge and that looks more like San Francisco than Yerba Buena Island ahead of him. Also, the camera is on the shady (north) side making west to the right. Sure looks like he's driving west to me.
Huh - you could be right, in which case he's taking a curious route to Berkeley.
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Old 08-17-2019, 08:35 AM
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Like I said, he couldn't resist a detour to get some take-out from Sam Wo.
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Old 08-17-2019, 08:46 AM
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Any death by gunshot, prior to Bonnie And Clyde (1967 movie). The Magnificent Seven and the Dollars trilogy are certainly great movies, but they show people shot and instantly dead, without a visible mark on their bodies. That looks ridiculous to a modern audience.
Related: being stabbed in the abdomen with any size blade = instant death.
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Old 08-17-2019, 09:03 AM
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Also, whenever someone has been without access to a razor or any other way of grooming their facial hair (including cavemen), even if their beard is scraggly and disheveled, their mustache will somehow miraculously be trimmed over their mouth.
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Related: being stabbed in the abdomen with any size blade = instant death.
Unless it's the protagonist who needs to staunch the blood, stagger a little and wince a lot. Then, thanks to gritty determination and having truth on his side, dispatch the stabber.

This is one thing that takes me out of a movie: the Plot-Specific Event.

Knives kill instantly if the plot needs that, or a mild inconvenience if that's what the script says. Bad guys are laughably terrible shots and good guys can dodge and weave through an assortment of randomly-aimed bullets... until the plot says it's time to take out the Plucky Sidekick. Then suddenly it's time for one shot with surgical precision.
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Someone mentioned empty suitcases. Something that really bugs me more than it really should is empty coffee containers and the like. I know they're props, but put some liquid in them so they're not obviously empty. Anyone who has had a coffee or a soft drink out of a disposable cup knows how it moves when full and how it sounds when you put it down on a table. If it make a hollow plok! noise, it's empty. Also, the scenes where one person brings another person a container of coffee and they immediately take a big ol' swig instead of first seeing whether or not it's going to melt their tongue. On top of that, they tip it back so far, they'd be wearing the contents.
What bugs me is when a character is shown pouring a hot drink of some sort into a cup, and the sound of the liquid going into the cup is wrong. Haven't they noticed that the sound of hot liquid being poured is distinctly different (a higher pitch) from a cold liquid?
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In Casablanca, the door of the German Legation in the French Moroccan city is lettered, naturally, in English.
... And Claude Rains is telling Rick "You couldn't have come here for the waters, we're in the middle of the desert."

Uh, no, you're not. Casablanca is on the windward side of the Atlas Mountains, not far from the West African coast. The climate there is a lot like Los Angeles's, and Los Angeles is not in the desert.
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... And Claude Rains is telling Rick "You couldn't have come here for the waters, we're in the middle of the desert."

Uh, no, you're not. Casablanca is on the windward side of the Atlas Mountains, not far from the West African coast. The climate there is a lot like Los Angeles's, and Los Angeles is not in the desert.
A friend of mine visited Morocco several years ago, and I kept commenting on her social media photos just how much it looked like California. There were wildflowers everywhere (it was springtime when she went). I admit I had the mistaken image of Morocco as desert. I guess I shouldn't have been surprised -- they say California has a "Mediterranean" climate, and Morocco is a Mediterranean country (I know, Casablanca isn't on the Mediterranean coast, but on the Atlantic).
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A friend of mine visited Morocco several years ago, and I kept commenting on her social media photos just how much it looked like California. There were wildflowers everywhere (it was springtime when she went). I admit I had the mistaken image of Morocco as desert. I guess I shouldn't have been surprised -- they say California has a "Mediterranean" climate, and Morocco is a Mediterranean country (I know, Casablanca isn't on the Mediterranean coast, but on the Atlantic).
The scene where Major Strasser arrives was filmed at Van Nuys Airport.
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OK, so I momentarily forgot about relays and contactors. Still a crack, rather than the stereotyped ka-HUNK!

Do the big lighting systems still use electromechanical devices? I'm assuming it's moving to DMX control with silent triacs or small relays inside the instruments that just go >tick<.
Contactors are still widely used, but more and more LED fixtures are being installed, and they are pretty much silent. Even modern contactors are pretty quiet. I've heard some new ones that are so quiet that I thought they weren't working.
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... And Claude Rains is telling Rick "You couldn't have come here for the waters, we're in the middle of the desert."

Uh, no, you're not. Casablanca is on the windward side of the Atlas Mountains, not far from the West African coast. The climate there is a lot like Los Angeles's, and Los Angeles is not in the desert.
To be fair, Los Angeles is not where you would go for ‘the waters’. That statement may even be on the Salton Sea tourist T-shirt’s.
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...And he was driving eastbound, which means they had to shut down traffic on the Bay Bridge to get that shot, during the day, which blows my mind.
In the so-so Kevin Costner pro football film Draft Day, he drives an absolutely nonsensical route across Cleveland. Anyone watching who's from the city would ask, "Why the hell would he drive all over the place like that?"
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American made productions set in London are notorious for that (and give a lot of amusement to Londoners) where for example a character arrives at LHR and on their way to their hotel in the centre, pass by St Pauls on their way to the hotel next to the Houses of Parliament.
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That reminded me of the famous car chase in Bullitt, and how the bad guys' car (a Dodge Charger) keeps losing hubcaps, and seems to keep regenerating them. IIRC, it loses like six hubcaps over the course of the scene.

Edit: apparently, it was actually eight hubcaps.
I overlooked this one earlier but since I've sort of got a Bay Area theme going in this thread, the chase route was... creative. The two cars would round a corner and straighten out two miles away.
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There was a seriously blatant continuity error in Our Man in Havana. Alec Guinness goes to a luncheon where the host is holding a black dachshund. He puts the dog down, and it drinks a poisoned cocktail and keels over. The dog's owner rushes over and picks it up. Both times the owner is holding the dog it's the black one. When it's walking around on its own, it's a RED dachshund.

It was a B&W movie, but it's still possible to differentiate between the two coat colors. The only thing I could think was that each dog had different acting abilities?

It was so flagrant to me (maybe because I'm a doxie mom), that I can't believe they did it.
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All car chases involve closely matched participants. Sports car vs van, ace hero driver vs amateur, sport bike vs anything, suped-up getaway car vs cop car, all deliver about the same performance.
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