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However, Pathfinder certainly eliminates this wizard wheeze:
That is a stupid rule and I hate them for writing it.
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Old 04-26-2014, 06:49 AM
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You don't need undead smiths, either: Just use a Fabricate spell on the wall.
Doesn't that spell only create a single item ?
Either way, that'd now be two spells per day. Twelve whole seconds of exertion. Starting to sound dangerously like an actual job .

Too bad you can't make 5th or 6th level wands, else you could have your (improved) familiar handle all that tedious busywork
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Old 04-26-2014, 11:35 AM
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That is a stupid rule and I hate them for writing it.
I choose to interpret the 'wall of iron' as being nearly pure iron, too soft to be used for swords and armor and other purposes where you should be using steel instead. At best, you could partner with a smelter that uses your magically created iron as a raw material for making steel. Not nearly as easy as just magically fabricating swords, but still a possible source of income.

At least, until the swarm of locust-mode rust monsters show up, attracted by the sudden unnatural concentration of iron.
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Old 04-26-2014, 06:27 PM
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It might be interesting to have a world with dirt cheap pig iron. I'd imagine that dutch ovens and ship ballast would become cheap, but sword prices wouldn't fall by all that much. And there would be a colony of angry dwarves who have lost their livelihood and have sworn eternal vengeance on the inventor.
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Haley doesn't look as sexy in the new version, oddly enough: the straps cover her single-line cleavage. The additional detail of the strip takes some getting used to.

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He says the detailed scenery makes drawing the strip harder, "Which is part of the point."

His thumb is still numb; he has pain and scar tissue: it's a challenge.

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Sorry for the unupdated bump, but does it seem like new strips have been coming slower since his most recent break?
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No, they were slow for a long time before as well. I was hoping that the hiatus between strips would be a chance to get a few done so that from our perspective several would come in rapid succession.
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Sorry for the unupdated bump, but does it seem like new strips have been coming slower since his most recent break?
It only seems slow when somebody reminds us.
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Old 05-03-2014, 08:02 PM
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Why is Rich adding more detail to the strips? What was wrong with what he had before? Does Book 6 or 7 have a more demanding storyline? Is the MitD impossible to convey with stick figures?


I gotta say I'm enjoying it though. Gaze at the giant ship crossbow! Marvel at the bedding that Mr. Scruffy and the Extreminator are sleeping on! Wrinkles and folds on blankets! Whispier smoke! Flowing capes! Faded out characters in the background and faded out rain! *

Just throwing out questions while we wait for Rich's next post.


Another comment from last month's twitter feed: "Roy has had his share of faults since the beginning, but he's only now acknowledged them and how they impact his leadership."



* This is a manifestation of my graphic art freakishness, something that has always puzzled me for what it's worth.

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Old 05-03-2014, 09:38 PM
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Why is Rich adding more detail to the strips?
He claims it's just trying to expand his art.

But the real sordid truth is it's just a blatant money grab. All those Morland miniature figures that people bought and painted have now been rendered obsolete. Fans will now have to buy a new set and paint them in accordance with the updated art. And Burlew will reap the royalties with each sale.

Big R gotta get paid.
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Old 05-03-2014, 10:25 PM
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Not to mention hookers and blow


Well at least it stimulates the economy. And somebody has to pay for Morland Minatures' massive ad campaign, distribution system, display cases at Walmart, Bloomingdales and Nordstrom's as well as their generous executive stock option program. Hey, planned obsolescence worked for GM. Sort of.
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Old 05-05-2014, 04:42 AM
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Old 05-05-2014, 05:10 AM
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I always thought Roy looked a bit Moorish.
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I always thought Roy looked a bit Moorish.
Niiiice.

I love how it takes two crew---who probably have class levels---straining with all their might to hold on to the rope, while Roy just nonchalantly holds it with one hand. (How's Roy anchoring himself though? If the pull were that ferocious, wouldn't he be lifted into the air?)

Yet another example of how high-level characters are different than everybody else.

Did, "I'm going to dance on your grave, you know," strike anyone else as really cold-blooded?
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I don't get the concern about the state of the hull. It's not like those engines are what's holding the whole thing up.
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Old 05-05-2014, 09:09 AM
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Yeah, it seems like losing the engines just means they're going to drift around, not crash.
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Remember, this is a magic airship. If that envelope were just full of hydrogen, it wouldn't be enough to support that hull. The ship is mostly held aloft by magic of some form or another. And that magic may well be concentrated in the no-longer-functional engines.
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Old 05-05-2014, 10:14 AM
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Also, they're in a storm. They need those engines to fight the winds, which otherwise might blow them out of the sky.
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Old 05-05-2014, 10:16 AM
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As long as we're fanwanking, the engines could also produce a lifting gas as a byproduct of functioning that's used to replenish the blimp. No engines, no more lifting gas. I imagine the blimp is not as airtight as anyone would like, so losing the new gas means the old gas is rapidly depleted.
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Old 05-05-2014, 10:40 AM
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Remember, this is a magic airship. If that envelope were just full of hydrogen, it wouldn't be enough to support that hull. The ship is mostly held aloft by magic of some form or another. And that magic may well be concentrated in the no-longer-functional engines.
I think it's pretty obvious the ship runs on steam. They just need to put on their goggles and fix the phlogiston generator before the aether tank runs dry.
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Old 05-05-2014, 10:46 AM
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Did, "I'm going to dance on your grave, you know," strike anyone else as really cold-blooded?
Definitely. But it was a great lead-in to Roys next line...
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I don't get the concern about the state of the hull. It's not like those engines are what's holding the whole thing up.
Aren't they? The ship has both propellers pointed backwards and ones pointed upwards. You can see this clearly in strip 948, though it's been shown elsewhere too. It may be that the lift bag only provides most of the lift, and without the engines the ship will slowly sink.
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I hate to say it, but Roy's hands just look really weird in this. I barely noticed the stick version of three fingers but now they've got 2 dimensions I just can't believe Roy is actually gripping the rope. No doubt I'll get used to it but for now it's a bit jarring.
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New one is up and I am TOTALLY FIRST this time!

...nice to see Roy getting the piss taken out of him a little bit.
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New one is up and I am TOTALLY FIRST this time!

...nice to see Roy getting the piss taken out of him a little bit.

Um, nope. See #162, above.

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Grr.. made me look!

Is there any reason we don't just make a new thread for every new comic? I could understand if it updated 3 or more times a week regularly, but lately it's been roughly once a week. I'm sure I'm not the only one who gets excited when this thread is updated and then disappointed when it's not for a new comic.
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Grr.. made me look!

Is there any reason we don't just make a new thread for every new comic? I could understand if it updated 3 or more times a week regularly, but lately it's been roughly once a week. I'm sure I'm not the only one who gets excited when this thread is updated and then disappointed when it's not for a new comic.
I prefer to have umpteen bizzillion comics all wrapped up in a single thread. I also enjoy the commentary here.



"I hate to say it, but Roy's hands just look really weird in this."

Yeah, Rich entered the uncanny valley with that one. Notice that the grips of Sally and her workmate were fairly credible though. Also note that the toothful facial grimace now has an arc on the bottom rather than a flat line. I sort of liked the old style but after over 900 strips I can see the point of moving on.



After the computer crash, Rich switched to .png. In this book he's really taken advantage of the greater color depth (and "alpha transparency"): I think gifs (1987 tech) were limited to about 256 colors though there were ways to cheat. Rich's rain effect is nice. Back when Rich started, not all browsers rendered .png images properly.



"The ship has both propellers pointed backwards and ones pointed upwards."

Trivia from wikipedia:
Modern blimps are launched somewhat heavier than air (overweight), in contrast to historic blimps. The missing lift is provided by lifting the nose and using engine power, or by angling the engine thrust. Some types also use steerable propellers or ducted fans. Operating in a state heavier than air avoids the need to dump ballast at lift-off and also avoids the need to lose costly lifting gas on landing.

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I agree that the hands are off. Before, if one asked "Why do they look that way?", the answer was "Because they're stick figures". Now, though, if you're going to go to the trouble of outlining the sticks, one is lead to ask why they're still sticks at all.

The rest of the art upgrades, though, are very nice. At least, the ones I've noticed, but not noticing an upgrade is also a testament to it working well.
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Um, nope. See #162, above.
Damn.

Apologies to all (especially LHOD) for the false alarm.
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Aren't they? The ship has both propellers pointed backwards and ones pointed upwards. You can see this clearly in strip 948, though it's been shown elsewhere too. It may be that the lift bag only provides most of the lift, and without the engines the ship will slowly sink.
Heavier-than-air hybrid airships are the cutting-edge thing now.
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Dun Dun Dunnnn New one is up. Well, that realization didn't take long.

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I don't know if that was intended to be a "You Have To Burn The Rope" joke but it sure sounded like one.
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Thor's actually paying attention to downstairs? Huh. That's never happened before.
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So, are we looking at a "one strip/fortnight" schedule from here on out?
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So, are we looking at a "one strip/fortnight" schedule from here on out?
The only reliable thing about Rich's posting schedule is its unpredictability.
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Ehh, the "demon" (to borrow the Buffy vernacular for this situation) will most likely smooth talk his way out.

What will be interesting will be whether this causes any seeds of doubt to be planted in anyone.
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Thor's actually paying attention to downstairs? Huh. That's never happened before.
Nah. Thor's off drinking a literal ocean of mead and punching sea serpents in the face.

He has people to handle the dire portents of impending doom for him.
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Dun Dun Dunnnn New one is up. Well, that realization didn't take long.
He'll talk his way out of it, for the moment. It wouldn't make narrative sense to fail so quickly. Belkar already suspects, and he'll be the one who finds positive proof of the deception.
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Maybe that's how eventually Belkar dies: Durkpire kills him (or better: vamps him) when Belkar has proof of Durk's deception.
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Doesn't fit with "not long for this world", though.

Although, would Belkar, being evil to begin with, have a split personality?
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Doesn't fit with "not long for this world", though.

Although, would Belkar, being evil to begin with, have a split personality?
IIRC, the prophecy was that he would "breathe his last." I don't think vampires actually breathe, do they?
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ETA: Not really sure how he would explain to the rest of the Order his reasons for having done that. Can a vampire vamp and enthrall a fresh corpse that he didn't create/corpse-ify?
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The Oracle phrased his prophecy about Belkar in many different ways: He's not long for this world, he'll breathe his last-- ever, he should savor his next birthday cake, he shouldn't bother funding his IRA. I think Rich is trying to make it clear that he's going to really, truly die, and really, truly stay really, truly dead, but that doesn't stop people from coming up with convoluted literalist explanations like "He'll become a vampire exiled to another plane where cake doesn't exist", or the like.

Really, we haven't seen the Oracle invoke any of that gotcha trickery in his prophecies themselves: His answers, so far, have all been simple. Even his attempted weaseling with Belkar's question ended up with a simple, direct answer.
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Heck, the Oracle tried to go out of his way to hint to Roy that Roy's Gate question was stupid and that the literal answer Roy was demanding wasn't going to help him.

That said, I don't think vampires eat cake so theoretical Vamp-Belkar could stay on his home plane
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The Oracle phrased his prophecy about Belkar in many different ways: He's not long for this world, he'll breathe his last-- ever, he should savor his next birthday cake, he shouldn't bother funding his IRA. I think Rich is trying to make it clear that he's going to really, truly die, and really, truly stay really, truly dead, but that doesn't stop people from coming up with convoluted literalist explanations like "He'll become a vampire exiled to another plane where cake doesn't exist", or the like.

Really, we haven't seen the Oracle invoke any of that gotcha trickery in his prophecies themselves: His answers, so far, have all been simple. Even his attempted weaseling with Belkar's question ended up with a simple, direct answer.
But that doesn't affect the other theory: the Oracle was lying about Belkar's death. It was not an official answer anyone had paid for, which raises the point of why the Oracle gave it away for free.

The theory goes like this:

1. The Oracle could foresee that the group is going to save the universe, including the Oracle.
2. But he also foresaw that they would need Belkar to accomplish this. And they were going to kick Belkar out of the group.
3. He couldn't tell them directly to keep Belkar because that knowledge would affect their actions and cause them to fail. But he saw if he told them Belkar was going to die, they would keep Belkar around. So he lied and told them that.
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Which would be nice, because the evil little bastard is the main reason I read the strip in the first place.
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