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Been done numerous times. The Ice-T Movie, one by Van Damme, and"The Most Dangerous Game" off the cuff. In the Van Damme movie they used bow and arrows and hunted them down in NYC. If they made it to the river they got to keep a money belt.

And yes, in all of them the hunted end up with their revenge.

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So it's not about liberals doing the hunting; it's about conservatives imagining what they'd be like if they were liberals.
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I don't know if it fits the bill but Red State by Kevin Smith was sort of entertaining a kind of Waco meets Fred Phelps-esque cult leader thing going on, I don't know if it bares repeat watching but I found it original and entertaining.
I don't want to watch it if Fred Phelps bares himself repeatedly.
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I don't want to watch it if Fred Phelps bares himself repeatedly.
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So it's not about liberals doing the hunting; it's about conservatives imagining what they'd be like if they were liberals.
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the movie is not going to be released.

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I don't want to watch it if Fred Phelps bares himself repeatedly.
He's dead.
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Have people, including the OP, actually read the article the OP linked to? You might be interested in some of the content.



AFAIK, nobody outside the insiders has read the script or seen any footage. (Even Fox News had to make this disclaimer.) People are going crazy based on a soundbite.

Sure, it might be exploitative, awful, insulting, and just plain wrong. Or it might make an important point about guns and our society in an entertaining way that would reach people. The only thing we can know for sure is that condemning something based on absolutely no information is the worst way to proceed.

'“Did anyone see what our ratf**ker-in-chief just did?” one character asks early in the screenplay for The Hunt, a Universal Pictures thriller set to open Sept. 27. Another responds: “At least The Hunt’s coming up. Nothing better than going out to the Manor and slaughtering a dozen deplorables.”'

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That a major studio ever even considered making it in the first place is reprehensible.
Some people are clinging to the idea that it's satire. But reverse the roles and imagine the reaction. The Hunt is a group of Social Justice Warriors released to be hunted by MAGA-hat wearers. Can you say "incitement?"

Wonder why Conservatives aren't willing to compromise? Maybe because they are being asked to trust the side that thinks this could be at all humorous. (Which satire is supposed to be.)
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Yeah, asking conservatives to trust other conservatives might be a bit too much to hope for.
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Just for curiosity's sake, what is your source?
Exactly the same as the source that you think proves me in error.
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'“Did anyone see what our ratf**ker-in-chief just did?” one character asks early in the screenplay for The Hunt, a Universal Pictures thriller set to open Sept. 27. Another responds: “At least The Hunt’s coming up. Nothing better than going out to the Manor and slaughtering a dozen deplorables.”'

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That a major studio ever even considered making it in the first place is reprehensible.
Some people are clinging to the idea that it's satire. But reverse the roles and imagine the reaction. The Hunt is a group of Social Justice Warriors released to be hunted by MAGA-hat wearers. Can you say "incitement?"

Wonder why Conservatives aren't willing to compromise? Maybe because they are being asked to trust the side that thinks this could be at all humorous. (Which satire is supposed to be.)
Dont confuse satire with humor. Though they certainly can overlap.

Also, major studios make reprehensible garbage all the time. There's apparently a huge market for it.
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reverse the roles and imagine the reaction. The Hunt is a group of Social Justice Warriors released to be hunted by MAGA-hat wearers. Can you say "incitement?"
That was essentially (exactly?) the plot of the entire third season of the TBS show Wrecked. Contrary to your firm conviction, nobody got the vapors over it.
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Upthread someone mentioned the 1994 film Surviving the Game, which is also similar to the scenario that CelticKnot thought would be inconceivable. (IMDB plot description: "A homeless man is hired as a survival guide for a group of wealthy businessmen on a hunting trip in the mountains, unaware that they are killers who hunt humans for sport, and that he is their new prey.")

And also as said upthread, in virtually all of these stories, there is a reversal in which the hunted ends up hunting the hunter, and usually succeeding.
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The resemblance to Ivanka Trump is especially disturbing. They deliberately styled the strikingly tall actress' hair very similar to Ivanka.

https://deadline.com/2019/08/the-hun...202665785/amp/

Inflaming our country at this volatile time is no joke. I hope this sick movie is never released.

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Even if released, would conservatives ever figure out that the liberal elitists were the bad guys? I don't think so. They would probably just go on shrieking on social media without having a clue about the actual plot. Is satire even possible these days?
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There are some things- like Jack Chick tracts- that a parody would be indistinguishable.
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There’s apparently a movie coming out in October called “Cuck” about a guy who descends into the mad online world of right wing propaganda. I’m certain that will generate plenty of controversy.
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Exactly the same as the source that you think proves me in error.
I have no idea what the hell you're talking about. I have not referred to any source, and I have said nothing about you being in error.
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Wonder why Conservatives aren't willing to compromise? Maybe because they are being asked to trust the side that thinks this could be at all humorous. (Which satire is supposed to be.)
Yeah, this is just silly. This, the Purge movies and so forth are all nonsensical political porn designed to get people up in arms exactly as presented here. This movie is doing to you exactly what it wants and this sort of post is actively participating in it.
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When and if it comes out, I'd probably watch at least part of it.
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He's dead.
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Fred Phelps mortuus est.

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When and if it comes out, I'd probably watch at least part of it.
What, right up until the moment before a deplorable gets the upper hand, you’d walk out and call it the feel-good film of the year?
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Even if released, would conservatives ever figure out that the liberal elitists were the bad guys? I don't think so. They would probably just go on shrieking on social media without having a clue about the actual plot. Is satire even possible these days?
One of the few criticism's I saw online about the Wonder Woman movie was left-leaning people legitimately angry that the bad guy was revealed to be
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Are there any pacifist superheroes? Seems like the comic books or the movies would be really boring.
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The resemblance to Ivanka Trump is especially disturbing. They deliberately styled the strikingly tall actress' hair very similar to Ivanka.

https://deadline.com/2019/08/the-hun...202665785/amp/

Inflaming our country at this volatile time is no joke. I hope this sick movie is never released.
5'7" is strikingly tall?
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Ivanka is 5' 11'. The actress may be a few inches shorter but the resemblance is quite noticeable with the right hair style.

It's not surprising. There's probably someone who resembles Trump in the film too.

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What, right up until the moment before a deplorable gets the upper hand, you’d walk out and call it the feel-good film of the year?
Well, there seems to be at least one violent catfight between two reasonably attractive women, so I guess I'll watch that scene in full on youtube eventually, at least.
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Ivanka is 5' 11'. The actress may be a few inches shorter but the resemblance is quite noticeable with the right hair style.

It's not surprising. There's probably someone who resembles Trump in the film too.
The actress is 5'7". You are looking at a single screen cap. Do these look like Ivanka to you?


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From a business perspective, The Hunt presents a gamble for Universal in these divided times. The satire Assassination Nation, which also pitted the woke versus the unwoke in uber-violent fashion, represented the top sale at Sundance 2018 at $10 million. But the film fizzled upon its release later that year, earning just $2 million with no international rollout. Says one person involved with that film, "We thought people would get the joke."
If you didn't see it, Assassination Nation was brilliant, one of my favorite films of 2018. Describing it as "the woke versus the unwoke" is vastly oversimplifying the storyline, which is more about mob mentality, and the real villain is a 4Chan denizen who sets things in motion for the "lulz." I think it will eventually be discovered as one of the great films of our era, once we are safely past all of the current stupidity.
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Does anyone honestly think this film is going to end with the killers successfully killing all their potential victims, never getting caught and going on to live happy fulfilling lives? This is not being directed by Michael Hanke.
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Some people are clinging to the idea that it's satire. But reverse the roles and imagine the reaction. The Hunt is a group of Social Justice Warriors released to be hunted by MAGA-hat wearers. Can you say "incitement?"
My opinion, CelticKnot, is that many Trump supporters would howl with glee at such a movie.

I think The Hunt has a premise that is in very poor taste, but as H.L. Mencken said, no one ever lost money by underestimating the taste of the American people.
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<shrug> She's not a perfect ringer for Ivanka. My initial impression is the marketing wants people to associate the character with her.

A movie about deplorables will probably include some of the leaders. That's daddy big bucks, sons, and his tall daughter.

Normally I'd completely agree this is yet another stupid exploitation film. They're a dime a dozen in Hollywood. I've certainly seen my share since high school. Remember Born Losers with Billy Jack kicking the shit out of the Biker gang? It ran frequently on Showtime and Cinemax in the mid to late 1970's.

We aren't living in normal times. Charlottesville, Virginia taught us that on August 12, 2017. Some elements of the far right is just looking for a fight. Meanwhile there's Antifa on the far left that feels the same way. I haven't seen anything like this since the late 60's after RFK and MLK were assassinated. The next Kent State may not be that far away. Then you have the possibility of new radical groups similar to the Weatherman and Symbionese Liberation Army appearing. Robbing banks to finance the "war". The internet offers a wealth of knowledge that the 60's groups didn't have.

I lived through that period in my childhood. I don't want to see it happen again. Democracy is too fragile and easily lost.

Let's not needlessly poke the sleeping bear with a pointy stick.

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Btw I'm being pragmatic. I'm not in any way ranting. It hurts me deeply seeing my country and its government failing.

I lived through a very dangerous period in American History. I saw Dan Rather roughed up on on the Democratic National Convention floor. The riots and attacks by the police outside on the streets. The bodies on the ground after National Guard troops fired on students at Kent State. The explosion in Greenwich Village on March 6, 1970.

Those images and memories will be with me until the day I die. That's equally true of contemporary events today, Sandy Hook Elementary School December 14, 2012, Stoneman Douglas High School February 14, 2018, Walmart El Paso Aug 3, 2019. The list just goes on and on.

We must tread lightly for the next few years. Especially with an election looming in 2020.

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Coincidentally I recently watched Once Upon a Time in Hollywood and enjoyed it. Great film. Not Tarantino's best work, but it's in the top three.

I usually have no problem with that genre. Movie Violence is different from the real thing.

The Hunt was written to inflame political tensions and I do feel it's a bad idea.

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Seen the trailer and don't get how "Deplorables" are the ones being targeted, especially since one of the hunted rescues a Muslim woman.

That said this movie goes way too far. Instead, after Trump is removed from office, lets round up his supporters to Universities, let them get an education in American History, which they have to take over and over again until they pass.


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BTW, why should Hollywood "tread lightly" when we have a Trump supporter base of which many of whom have threatened civil war if he is removed from office? Do you really think they will back down if he is voted out of office in 2020? You think they will take it laying down? If voted back in you don't think they will be more emboldened?

Wake up America. We need to be militarily prepared for the coming Right Wing redneck white supremacist backlash that has already been brewing in America for decades. If not careful, it will burst in the next 6 years.


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BTW, why should Hollywood "tread lightly" when we have a Trump supporter base of which many of whom have threatened civil war if he is removed from office? Do you really think they will back down if he is voted out of office in 2020? You think they will take it laying down? If voted back in you don't think they will be more emboldened?

Wake up America. We need to be militarily prepared for the coming Right Wing redneck white supremacist backlash that has already been brewing in America for decades. If not careful, it will burst in the next 6 years.
What was the Oklahoma City bombing back in 1995 other than a right-wing attack on America?
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I just watched the trailer, and there was nothing political about the one I watched. It looked like rich versus poor, and was more akin to a movie like Hostel than anything else.
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The "deplorables" are going to turn out to have such excellent skills from their rural lifestyles and hunting that they will slaughter all those pussy city slicker liberals who are hunting them. This is obvious from the trailer. Even though the liberals have tracking collars on their prey and fancy gadgets and vast financial resources and all that.

Basically the movies genre is fantasy fiction.
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The "deplorables" are going to turn out to have such excellent skills from their rural lifestyles and hunting that they will slaughter all those pussy city slicker liberals who are hunting them. This is obvious from the trailer. Even though the liberals have tracking collars on their prey and fancy gadgets and vast financial resources and all that.

Basically the movies genre is fantasy fiction.
Again, based solely on the trailer, I cannot see anything about liberals versus conservatives. I see rich versus poor, and most of the rich people I know are conservative Republicans, but I also know a bunch of poor right wingers. I get the impression that the female lead hunted had military training.
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Anyone knows who funded this thing? I wouldn't be surprised if the NRA wasn't involved - we need our guns when the libruls come to get us.

Sounds like this is a left wing movie in the same way Red Dawn is a Communist movie.
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Sounds like everybody needs to see Tucker and Dale vs. Evil, which flips the whole trope on its head. Preppy college students think rednecks are hunting them, and their panicky reactions make the innocent rednecks think they're the ones being hunted. Splattery and hilarious.
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I watched the trailer. I couldn't see a satirical angle, or an overtly political one. It seemed to be a splatter-type movie, one that could be alternatively titled Various Ways to Watch People Die. It was also one of those trailers that appeared to reveal the entire plot of the movie, including the denouement/showdown at the end.
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What I don't understand about the "most Dangerous Game" type of movies, is that people would be the easiest prey to hunt. People are slow, bad at blending in, and unless they have a weapon are no threat to the hunter at all. Deer, rabbit, squirrel, turkey, et al would be harder to hunt. Bears, tigers, lions, elephants, boars, etc. could be dangerous to hunt. People not hard or dangerous.
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What I don't understand about the "most Dangerous Game" type of movies, is that people would be the easiest prey to hunt. People are slow, bad at blending in, and unless they have a weapon are no threat to the hunter at all. Deer, rabbit, squirrel, turkey, et al would be harder to hunt. Bears, tigers, lions, elephants, boars, etc. could be dangerous to hunt. People not hard or dangerous.
People are significantly more intelligent than any hunted animal, and are also motivated to hurt/kill the hunter in a way that a hunted animal might not necessarily be (the hunted animal just wants you to leave it alone.)
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Anyone knows who funded this thing? I wouldn't be surprised if the NRA wasn't involved - we need our guns when the libruls come to get us.

Sounds like this is a left wing movie in the same way Red Dawn is a Communist movie.
Presumably, Universal Pictures Studios is funding it itself, it's not like this is a high-budget movie or that the studio lacks for money..
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If they really want to make a movie guaranteed to piss off the Trump crowd they should have the liberal elites hunt down the deplorables and forcefully educate them.

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