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Old 07-22-2019, 12:56 PM
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Its a Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood


For the first time, a trailer has brought me to tears.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQw658a-8UQ
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Old 07-23-2019, 03:18 AM
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I can't wait to see that movie.

I grew up a little too early to watch Mr. Rogers - the kids I babysat for watched it, not me - but I went to school with someone who was, in real life, a neighbor of Mr. Rogers, who said Mr. R was every bit as lovely in real life as on TV. And I love Tom Hanks. So what's not to like?

Also, I'm told that the real Fred Rogers loved the National Lampoon Mr. Rogers meets a bass player routine. How charming is that?
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Old 07-23-2019, 04:22 AM
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I was born in 68, I grew up with Mr. Rogers and Sesame Street.

I have also been a fan of Tom Hanks since Bosom Buddies, I was 12.

This could REALLy be something.
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Old 07-23-2019, 04:38 AM
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If anyone was going to play Mr. Rogers, it was going to be Tom Hanks.

On a similar topic, I'm still loving this meme.
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Old 07-23-2019, 06:49 AM
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For the first time, a trailer has brought me to tears.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQw658a-8UQ
Oh here, have some more tears:
Fred Rogers, Lifetime Achievement Emmy Acceptance Speech

Hanks certainly got the look and demeanor right, but I found his voice slightly distracting at first. It felt a bit like an SNL sketch; I kept waiting for the jokes to start coming out.

Hopefully this joins the small club of blockbuster movies that don't prominently feature sex or violence...
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Did you see the recent documentary Won't You Be My Neighbor? about him?
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I visited the Mr. Rogers display at the Heinz Museum in Pittsburgh earlier this year. That was rather touching too.
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Hanks doesn't look all that much like Rogers, but who else could play him?
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Hanks doesn't look all that much like Rogers, but who else could play him?
Christopher Walken.


Seriously - could you imagine?
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I was wondering just how many real-life people Tom Hanks has played, as it seems like a lot. (Googling, though, it doesn't seem to be a record number.)
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Old 07-23-2019, 08:57 AM
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Eddie Murphy?
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Jim Parsons could pull it off, looks wise. I don't know who else could bring as much heart as Hanks, though.
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I felt like there was a little too much of his Forrest voice seeping through a couple times in the trailer. Other than that, I'm really looking forward to seeing this.

I feel like this movie has the potential to keep audiences choked up for two hours straight. Just a theater full of ugly cries.

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Did you see the recent documentary Won't You Be My Neighbor? about him?
It was excellent. I found the bit about him weighing 143 pounds every day of his adult life fascinating, especially with the "I love you" connection.
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That is quite a silly choice as Eddie Murphy is only 5 foot 9.
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There does seem to be some drama...some gravity...in this film.

The interviewer states, "You love "broken" people...like me."




Can you just imagine being counceled by Fred Rogers, in person?
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Old 07-23-2019, 09:48 AM
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According to the Wikipedia article, the movie is based on this article from Esquire by Tom Junod, so the interviewer talking about "broken people" might be him. (It's a nice article, by the way. I think I first heard about it here, in a previous thread on Fred Rogers.)
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but I went to school with someone who was, in real life, a neighbor of Mr. Rogers...
I think that everyone in the world was a neighbor of Mr. Rogers.

But I just had a dark thought about Tom Hanks taking on the role... Does this mean that we're going to have a scene with Mr. Rogers peeing?
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I don't know if the Calvinists have saints but I'm pretty sure the ELCA has adopted St. Fred. Pope Frankie should get to know him, too.

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I first became aware of Fred Rogers when I was about six years old. I had a friend in the first grade named Rebecca whose house I would sometimes go to after school. We would always watch Mr Rogers, because she absolutely refused to switch to Garfield Goose, which was my preferred program.

I remember very clearly thinking Mr Rogers and his puppets were the most boring saps on television. On Garfield Goose, a local Chicago puppet show for kids, Garfield had a clacking giant beak that he would sometimes whack Frasier Thomas in the head with. Nobody got whacked in the head on Mr Rogers, It was all people and puppets talking softly for the whole damn show. No cartoons like on Garfield Goose or Ray Rayner. I liked the Daniel Tiger Puppet okay, but that was only because I was a big Jungle Book fan, and I liked to look at tigers. I still thought Daniel was an awful wuss for a tiger though.

I had a hard edge, even as a kid.

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Hanks certainly got the look and demeanor right, but I found his voice slightly distracting at first.
Indeed, like Happy Lendervedder mentioned Hank's attempts to immitate Mr. Rogers' manner of speaking came out sounding just a little too much like Forrest Gump at times. And I did find that kind of distracting.
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That is quite a silly choice as Eddie Murphy is only 5 foot 9.
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Derf was a poor art student in Pittsburgh; he was walking to school in a snowstorm when a stranger offered him a ride. Yep, that stranger was Fred Rogers and Derf was too shocked to say anything until he got out, then could only manage "B-b-bye, neighbor."

This encounter appeared as a series of strips at derfcity.com but the strips are no longer there.

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Mr. Rogers show was an integral part of my childhood. I would always stop and slow down to watch him. I was deeply enthralled by him.

If this movie does anything but deify the man, I will hunt down the directors and give them a stern talking-to!.
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While Mr. Rogers was period-appropriate for my early-80s childhood and I certainly watched it, I don't remember having a very strong fondness for the show as a kid. I think the pacing was a little too slow and the puppets were a little too strange-looking and strangely-voiced for me at the time.

But my appreciation has grown since, and I have counted him among my personal heroes for a long while now (including years before it was "cool" to like him). Very glad to see the attention he's getting again, especially having children of my own and seeing just how damned good his lessons and approach were.
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I think it's safe to assume that this is going to be the uncensored, true story of Fred Rogers and the many, many affairs that went on in what appeared to be a quiet neighborhood. There was of course, the usual shenanigans among the human residents, but there was all sorts of dalliances amongst the puppet residents as well as inter-species relationships between puppets and humans. I think it's safe to assume you will be surprised by the true story.
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Just out of curiosity, was anyone here who watched the show as a little kid bitterly disappointed when he or she entered the real world and found it was nothing at all like Mr Rogers' neighborhood?
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Perfect casting choice

.... of course, my evil side is saying “someone recut this trailer into the style of a horror movie”

Can you say... horror?... sure you can!


SAY IT!

SAY HORROR!
NOW!....



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How about Christopher Kimball?
Looks and voice are pretty close.
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My eyes played a trick on me when I caught a glimpse of a screenshot of Facebook. For a brief moment I thought I was looking at Bill O’reilly rather than Tom Hanks
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I'm looking forward to seeing the movie. I have actually had a "Mr. Rogers Moment."

It was the 1980s, and I was in Los Angeles. I was in the audience at a taping of "The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson," and prior to the actual show taping, various celebrities were wandering around the set. One of whom was Mr. Rogers, for some reason (he was not a scheduled guest on Johnny's show, but being Mr. Rogers, NBC likely let him go wherever he wanted). Tony Randall was a scheduled guest, and he made us all laugh with some improv before the show. Mr. Rogers watched from the sidelines while Tony Randall did his thing, but he also looked out into the audience.

Everybody was watching Tony Randall, but I waved at Mr. Rogers. Just a little wave, nothing outrageous or huge. But Mr. Rogers saw me, and he waved back to me, with that nice smile I knew so well from TV. Mr. Rogers may have played to an audience of millions, but he made us each feel as if he cared for, and was playing to us individually. With a wave and a smile, he proved that to me, that day.
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If anyone was going to play Mr. Rogers, it was going to be Tom Hanks.

On a similar topic, I'm still loving this meme.
That’s just about the sweetest thing I’ve ever seen!
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Just out of curiosity, was anyone here who watched the show as a little kid bitterly disappointed when he or she entered the real world and found it was nothing at all like Mr Rogers' neighborhood?
Not I. Are you wondering if Mr Rogers ill-equipped children by presenting them with a unrealistic view of the world? The question makes me think that you have a vague, cultural touchstone idea of the show, or maybe a Fox News view of it from when they inexplicably decided to demonize him awhile back.

Mr Rogers tried to build children's self-esteem, help them to understand and not be afraid of things that were frightening, and to treat others with kindness and respect. He did not create a neighborhood of make-believe in which to hide from the world, but to take bits and pieces of the world and explain it to children, without talking down to them.
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I thing Edward Norton could make a passable young Fred Rogers:
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Mr Rogers tried to build children's self-esteem, help them to understand and not be afraid of things that were frightening, and to treat others with kindness and respect. He did not create a neighborhood of make-believe in which to hide from the world, but to take bits and pieces of the world and explain it to children, without talking down to them.
Concur.

Fred Rogers wasn't creating a fantasy to hide in. There was divorce and death, bullies and bad guys. Fred just showed us how to deal with such things in a positive, caring manner.
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Jim Parsons could pull it off, looks wise. I don't know who else could bring as much heart as Hanks, though.
If Jim Parsons and his husband Todd Spiewak moved into some people's neighborhood, some people would move away.
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Someone in another thread mentioned the character of Johnny in Airplane!. I noticed something relevant to it when I searched YouTube for his scenes. Look at 0:19 to 0:28 in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5neabZ5pVQ
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Someone in another thread mentioned the character of Johnny in Airplane!. I noticed something relevant to it when I searched YouTube for his scenes. Look at 0:19 to 0:28 in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5neabZ5pVQ

You mean, to play Mr Rogers?

"Airplane!" was filmed 40 years ago. He would be 72 now. . .if he hadn't passed in 1986.
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Did you watch the video? At one point, Lloyd Bridges's character Steve McCroskey says, "I want the best available man on this, a man who knows that plane inside and out and won't crack under pressure". Stephen Stucker's character Johnny Henshaw-Jacobs says, "How about Mr. Rogers?". I know that Stucker is dead and didn't look like Rogers. Do I need to assume that no one looks at my links?
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Hanks doesn't look all that much like Rogers, but who else could play him?
It's true, he doesn't; his face is different, and he's a much larger man. Both are/were about six feet tall but Mr. Rogers was very thin, and famously worked very hard to keep his weight at exactly 143.

But the really important part is demeanor and voice and holy CRAP, Hanks nails it.

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Just out of curiosity, was anyone here who watched the show as a little kid bitterly disappointed when he or she entered the real world and found it was nothing at all like Mr Rogers' neighborhood?
I mean, of course not. Does anyone enter the real world and find themselves disappointed it'd not like Sesame Street, or Romper Room, or that hippies don't actually drive around in the Mystery Machine with a talking dog solving mysteries? Like, who in the world does directly from watching Mr. Rogers to their first job?

I have to agree that this is the kind of comment I would expect from someone who doesn't actually remember anything about the show - a show that literally once discussed the topic of assassination - but just wrongly assumes, based on cynicism and the image of Mr. Rogers as a kind and gentle man, that he was selling nonsense, when in fact he put an enormous emphasis on honesty and was utterly convinced that children "can spot a phony a mile away," in his words. It's similar to people who criticize Dr. Spock's book who quite obviously haven't ever read the book.
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My brother and I grew up obsessed with Mr. Rogers. I have fond memories of us watching it together. We were especially excited for his "operettas". We tried to get his kids into it but they didn't care too much. But they did get in to "Daniel Tiger's Neighborhood" the cartoon.

I think Hanks' accent for the movie is too southern-y (like someone else said, Forrest Gump) but I'll give him the benefit of a doubt that he studied the real accent and that's what the whole team settled on. Although Rogers didn't really have a "Pittsburgh accent" as I know them, surely that is what informed his way of speaking, and I've never heard any actor do an actual good Pittsburgh accent, not even on a show that takes place in Pittsburgh. People just default to southern.
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I think it's safe to assume that this is going to be the uncensored, true story of Fred Rogers and the many, many affairs that went on in what appeared to be a quiet neighborhood. There was of course, the usual shenanigans among the human residents, but there was all sorts of dalliances amongst the puppet residents as well as inter-species relationships between puppets and humans. I think it's safe to assume you will be surprised by the true story.
Will it cover his time as a sniper in Viet Nam?


We did not get PBS when I was growing up, so I never saw Sesame Street, Electric Co, or Mr Rogers. But, I can say, when I watched Won't You Be my Neighbor, I had a profound sadness come over me. I felt like I missed something special, that I might have really liked.
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On a similar topic, I'm still loving this meme.
Two guys who both have the name Rogers can lift Mjolnir. Interesting!

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Concur.

Fred Rogers wasn't creating a fantasy to hide in. There was divorce and death, bullies and bad guys. Fred just showed us how to deal with such things in a positive, caring manner.
Heh. Reminds me of a promotional spot sometime in the late eighties or so on my local PBS affiliate (WHYY in Philly, or maybe it was NJEA in New Jersey).

Words flashed in white on a black screen while a stern, no-nonsense announcer said, "War. Divorce. Illness. Death. Only one man has the guts to take on these issues. Are you tough enough...for Mr. Rogers?" (Still of a smiling Fred in his cardigan.)
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Someone once criticized Fred Rogers with the accusation that he had taught children to expect praise and rewards they hadn't earned under the banner of "you are special."

This person was, I guess, also special, but not, so far as I can see, on account of his/her ability to analyze the Mister Rogers television message. The message (excuse me: I watched the first episode at the age of four, and kept up for several years) was not that you deserved any kind of a prize just for existing. A lot of each show was devoted to various people with different talents and skills, regulars or not, and the message I remember was that there are people who can do things very well, and they're worth paying attention to, but that if you like these things, you should do them too, good or not, as long as it makes you happy.

The only universally equal qualities I remember Fred Rogers absolutely insisting all of us have were the ability to feel, and worthiness to receive, love.

Hermione, I had aged out of Mister Rogers by then, though not PBS, so I guess I missed the promo, but I'd have loved to see it.

If I had met him, I'd have thanked him for, just in time, taking his show to the barber shop and showing me that my first haircut wouldn't hurt.
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Saw the TV show and the Neville documentary, read the Esquire article. Might rent this movie, but might react the same way I did as a kid, fighting shy of the department store St. Nick, back when I knew Santa was real. Except this time, I'm not as sure anyone could really be that good.
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Someone once criticized Fred Rogers with the accusation that he had taught children to expect praise and rewards they hadn't earned under the banner of "you are special."
This, IME, is rooted in modern education. You know the sort: adults not keeping score during games, every kid getting some sort of reward, etc. I encountered that during my one-season stint as a volunteer counselor at a summer camp run by the county.

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