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Old 05-10-2019, 12:08 PM
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And then those annoying people show up every couple of years to renew their subscriptions and bump old threads. Those people are the worst!

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Old 05-10-2019, 04:38 PM
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Hey, welcome back Esprix! Don't make yourself so scarce.

That's something else we didn't say in 1999.
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Old 05-10-2019, 05:40 PM
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And then those annoying people show up every couple of years to renew their subscriptions and bump old threads. Those people are the worst!

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Old 05-10-2019, 07:05 PM
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I miss the jokes and banter.

There's so much negativity and anger in a lot of threads.
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Old 05-10-2019, 08:18 PM
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I miss the jokes and banter.

There's so much negativity and anger in a lot of threads.
I think there's still plenty of jokes and banter here, you idiot.
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Old 05-19-2019, 08:56 PM
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Regardless of the veracity, Charles H. Duell's alleged comment that "everything that can be invented has been" is pretty analogous to today's SDMB topics. A once a month perusal will usually suffice nowadays.
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Old 05-19-2019, 09:50 PM
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Well, the front page states 21,475,053 posts. You have to expect that some of the newness has worn off.

At, say, 100 words each (balancing the character-limit batshit screeds with the "this" posts), that's over two billion words. Almost as long as A Song of Ice and Fire will be. Nobody has come close to reading it all, so we're each making assumptions about the tiny fragments we have read. And those may well not be representative of the whole or of other people's experiences.
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Old 05-20-2019, 12:19 PM
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I think there's still plenty of jokes and banter here, you idiot.
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Old 05-20-2019, 01:08 PM
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There used to be a lot more fun(ish) threads about weekly TV episodes, now it's just a few with far too draconian rules about "spoilers" just for comparing a show to whatever source material it came from so they're often not even worth clicking on.
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Old 05-20-2019, 01:12 PM
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Actually, back in 2000, we did say things like "don't make yourself so scarce", or "it's been a long time". It's just that, back then, that meant someone had been gone for a month, instead of a decade.

EDIT: TBG, the Game of Thrones threads were a LOT less fun before those draconian rules.

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Old 05-20-2019, 04:26 PM
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I used to enjoy following along with the religious debates in GD. I miss reading some of the old members' thoughts- Liberal, SentientMeat, Polycarp, Diogenes the Cynic...
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I used to enjoy following along with the religious debates in GD. I miss reading some of the old members' thoughts- Liberal, SentientMeat, Polycarp, Diogenes the Cynic...
+1, since I know everyone is clamoring for the function.

But seriously, that is spot on. It was a straight line for me from “Hey, what’s this Straight Dope online column, that Cecil guy knows some cool trivia” to “What is this message board all about?” to “Wait, that’s a damn good question.”

The SDMB is (almost) singlehandedly responsible for me leaving behind fundamentalism. I miss the debates. I don’t know if they were better back in the day or if it’s just rose-colored memory, but I miss them.
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The SDMB is (almost) singlehandedly responsible for me leaving behind fundamentalism. I miss the debates. I don’t know if they were better back in the day or if it’s just rose-colored memory, but I miss them.
Mars Horizon, were you around for the Fundie vs. Board wars? They'd sweep in with multiple posts about God and a dozen supporters for each one. We, and I mean ALL of us, would fire back: from Espirix on the liberal end of the theological scale, me somewhere in the middle and Czarcasm on the other end, and everyone else not backing down. It was the most unified the SDMB has ever been, except for the times we all wanted to know, "What does the sale of the Chicago Reader mean to us THIS time?"
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I remember those, yes, but I couldn’t tell you when they were. I started reading the boards in mid ‘99 before registering to post in June 2000. I’ll bet a little searching could dig up those old threads. Fun times!
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Mars Horizon, were you around for the Fundie vs. Board wars? They'd sweep in with multiple posts about God and a dozen supporters for each one. We, and I mean ALL of us, would fire back: from Espirix on the liberal end of the theological scale, me somewhere in the middle and Czarcasm on the other end, and everyone else not backing down. It was the most unified the SDMB has ever been, except for the times we all wanted to know, "What does the sale of the Chicago Reader mean to us THIS time?"
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I remember those, yes, but I couldn’t tell you when they were. I started reading the boards in mid ‘99 before registering to post in June 2000. I’ll bet a little searching could dig up those old threads. Fun times!

We do seem to have less "pile-ons" across the board and not just in GD. I didn't realize I miss them until I stopped to think about it. Mine were more the 20-page MMPs but I remember a few smoking threads that went nuts from the very beginning post.
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I don't discount your experience, but mine was different. When I joined I felt very welcomed, even when I got push back for weak arguments and the like. My second post here had a grammatical error, which funny since I was commenting on how much a priority using good grammar was, and I was teased, but not abused.

As JC said, report abusive posts so we can look at them.
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Dammit. And I had just edited out another error. Seriously. I should never mention grammar.

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I think the board changed when technology changed. Before Wikipedia and Snopes, this used to be a treasure trove of factoids, trivia, and little-known things that would be discussed in detail. Cecil's columns were our sermons and etched tablets, but now there's plenty of debunking sites, and he's been rendered obsolete.

There used to be more blog-level posts, as insightful as newspaper editorials and as funny as stand-up comedy, like the posts by Master Wang-Ka, Scylla and a few others. I remember one story Opal had about showing her Muslim neighbor what porn was and how she reacted to it. Another (can't remember poster's name) found out she had a sister in China, and told a heartwarming tale of finally meeting her. This was before the advent of Facebook, so that's probably why there's so few of those magnificent stories these days.
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And then those annoying people show up every couple of years to renew their subscriptions and bump old threads. Those people are the worst!

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Old 05-21-2019, 02:55 PM
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The biggest change of all was a societal one: "TLDR."

Most everything today is Short Attention Span Theater and anything longer than a Tweet is too much for a lot of people to handle. So is holding two divergent opinions in one brainpan.

Are we dumber today? Yeah. Not so much the Doper reading this; y'all are the last holdouts, though. Most other folks can't be bothered.

Just my jaundiced worldview. But you know I'm right. Dammit.

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So, not only is it taking longer, we're losing ground. Well that's good news???
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In what significant ways has the nature of this board changed over the years?
I think for me the tone has changed, as well as the pace. As many other posters have said, I think the board has gotten older, with fewer new (younger) posters and mostly skewing older these days. I remember the nearly frantic pace of threads before, with people firing back replies in droves. There were more conservative posters before as well I think, as well as more outright left wing ones. These days, it seems like only a few conservatives left, not that many left wingers, and more folks who aren't really that well defined by left/right politics. I don't know if there is more or less intolerance....to me, it's more about an almost corporate culture that we have now that was missing before, but now the sides seem more cast in stone when there are sides. Though that might be me viewing back through rose colored glasses, though I definitely recall some of the really nasty fights and issues in the old days.

The biggest thing is, to me, the board seems to slowly be dying and winding down. Sort of like myself I guess. It will be sad if it ever stops, for me anyway, as I've put a lot of myself into this place, and while that probably doesn't mean much to others it does to me. Maybe the board will get a new lease on life if media changes or there are some new innovations that we use to bring new life to the board in some new phase, but that doesn't seem the trajectory for me...and, like I said, that makes me a bit sad.
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Most everything today is Short Attention Span Theater and anything longer than a Tweet is too much for a lot of people to handle.
How much of it is a matter of attention span, and how much of it is because people are accessing the SDMB (and the rest of the internet) on their phones more and more, and a long post looks even longer on a tiny screen, and it's hard to write a several-paragraph, carefully-composed post when you don't have a real keyboard to type on?
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I am a recently returned Neener Neener.

The willingness to explain, although mostly explain once again, seems to have dropped off a bit.

I was one of the frequent "religious" thread contributors when I came here "Back in the Day."

I read a lot of fairly well thought out positions on theological matters, and recall atheists calling anti-god ranters for their broken logic on many occasions. I was only occasionally verbally assaulted for
statements on faith, and more often than not it was over my frequent assertion that I would never willingly try to prove my faith to anyone. I admit it makes it hard to argue with me, but being uninterested in proving anything isn't a debate tactic to me, it's an element of belief.

The political dichotomy has gotten quite a bit wider, and seems like lots of strumming on not too many strings. That was a lot better when I was last here. People made their reasons for positions on actual conservatism, or liberalism much more clear. Now it's just cold dead hand on our guns, and Trump trump trump trump.

I often mentioned to friends who asked me why I read the board that within an hour, if you asked an abstruse question about physics, or art, or astronomy, or fashion, you would get an answer from someone who actually worked in the field. And the arguments about topology were . . . sublime.

Yeah, the fight against ignorance is not yet won. Looks to me like ignorance is fighting back more.

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In short, this board reflects our broader society in a lot of ways.
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Old 05-21-2019, 08:10 PM
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We do seem to have less "pile-ons" across the board and not just in GD. I didn't realize I miss them until I stopped to think about it. Mine were more the 20-page MMPs but I remember a few smoking threads that went nuts from the very beginning post.
The mods have gotten faster over the years, either throwing the whole thread in the Pit, or closing it entirely at an earlier stage of meltdown, particularly if a bunch of brand-new posters suddenly appear.

All Hail the Mods.
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Aside: Kent Clark, did you recently change your name?
Didn't he used to be Lane Lois? Or am I thinking of White Perry?
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Old 05-21-2019, 09:26 PM
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Define "recently."
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Old 05-22-2019, 12:48 AM
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How much of it is a matter of attention span, and how much of it is because people are accessing the SDMB (and the rest of the internet) on their phones more and more, and a long post looks even longer on a tiny screen, and it's hard to write a several-paragraph, carefully-composed post when you don't have a real keyboard to type on?
Ha! I still have a physical keyboard on my phone! BlackBerry KeyOne, the callouses on my fingers and thumbs from playing bass and guitar make me want to smash touchscreens! Plus, there's not much in the way of substitutes in the world of tactile feel WRT to a physical keyboard. But, I don't normally peruse the Dope on my phone, because it wastes too much of my time at home. I have stuff to do, and work/fun is more important than hanging out on my phone with you folks I don't know in an intimate sense, no matter how much I love ya.


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But, I used to spend quite a bit of time on here from my computer when I worked nights. It was almost hard to keep up with the place even with the large amounts of slack I threw at it. It's not quite as hard now, even though I don't use this as a reason to slack at work now. I still don't really keep up with the place, though.

So, the point of my story? I dunno, we've slowed down, it seems. I agree that the place isn't as frantic as it was even just five years ago. However, some of that is due to less crazy delusional passionate (?) folks posting rampantly. Either new members of the type have found other places to plague, or long time adherents to some idea or another that they can't let go have been banned, but there are fewer crazy folks polluting the place (for good and ill). Again, hail the mods. Hopefully we can keep building on quality, and not go the way of the dodo. Heck, this is one of the few places where I've seen people actually discuss how you can address the divides in the country it's hosted in, and on occasion the divisions in other countries and between them. It's not much, but it's there, and this is still one of the few places you can do it without being almost instantly drowned out by crazy folks.
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Ah, kunilou, that was it! I knew there was some old-timer who used that Superman avatar, and then started seeing a 99er with a name I didn't recognize using the same avatar, so I figured it had to be the same person, but I couldn't remember what the old name would have been, and it takes a long time to dig through posts to find one quoting by name.

I don't read MPSIMS much, so it didn't occur to me that there'd be a thread announcing the change.
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As a snopes message board refugee new to this board, it's really interesting to see people talk about how much things have slowed down here. My first impression was of how busy this place is, like snopes was ten years ago! The heyday of message boards seems to have passed, but I'm grateful this one is still around, and I wish I'd found my way here sooner.
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