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Old 01-03-2019, 04:57 PM
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It's a suggestion to (slightly) mitigate the disproportionate influence of low-population rural states, if those states are not growing in population. If there's a complaint that more people move to urbanized states and those states grow in population while not gaining any extra influence in the Senate, this is meant to address that.

Looking at the lists of fastest- and slowest-growing states, I see under this scheme, Utah would gain and New York would lose. Oh, well...
As long as we're proposing utterly implausible ideas for mitigating the disproportionate influence of low-population states -- a worthwhile if ultimately unconstitutional goal IMO -- I propose we merge smaller states and break up larger ones:
  • ND and SD = Dakota
  • ID and MT = Montanaho
  • VT and NH = Vampshire
  • CA = N. California & S. California
  • TX = E. Texas & W. Texas
  • NY = Metro NY & Upstate NY
Note -- this would not universally benefit Democrats, although that would probably be the immediate net effect.
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Old 01-03-2019, 05:06 PM
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That would be more constitutional than Senate reform. Any Senate reform would most likely lead to a constitutional crisis since it would require an Amendment yet the constitution says that you cannot deprive the states of their representation in the Senate, and so you'd potentially have the Supreme Court rule on the constitutionality of a constitutional amendment, which they've never done before. And if they go ahead and rule the Senate reform amendment unconstitutional, even if it is, what's to stop them from going ahead and ruling other constitutional amendments unconstitutional later down the line?
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Old 01-03-2019, 09:12 PM
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It's only one sentence, however convoluted the structure may be. The meaning and context are already provided. Anyway, the part about what's unamendable can itself be amended.
Which distressed Kurt Godel.
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Old 01-05-2019, 10:25 AM
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Ok, what's the source of your certainty? Did you read a poll? Conduct a study? Is it just based off personal conversations you've had with a few acquaintances? Something else?
https://news.gallup.com/poll/245789/...520the%2520U.S.

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During the first two years of the Trump administration, a record-high one in five U.S. women (20%) said they would like to move to another country permanently if they could. This is twice the average for women during the Obama (10%) or Bush years (11%) and almost twice the level among men (13%) under Trump. Before the Trump years, there was no difference between men's and women's desires to move.

The 30% of Americans younger than 30 who would like to move also represents a new high -- and it is also the group in which the gender gap is the largest. Forty percent of women younger than 30 said they would like to move, compared with 20% of men in this age group. These gender gaps narrow with age and eventually disappear after age 50.
When 40% of women under age 30 want to leave the country, you have a problem.

In the age of Trump America just keeps getting stupider, meaner, more sexist, more racist, more corrupt, more embarrassing, more backwards, more plutocratic every single day. It is tiring for a lot of people to have to re-fight battles that much of the developed world settled decades ago.
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Old 01-05-2019, 02:29 PM
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https://news.gallup.com/poll/245789/...520the%2520U.S.



When 40% of women under age 30 want to leave the country, you have a problem.

In the age of Trump America just keeps getting stupider, meaner, more sexist, more racist, more corrupt, more embarrassing, more backwards, more plutocratic every single day. It is tiring for a lot of people to have to re-fight battles that much of the developed world settled decades ago.
That's some damning polling there. No way to spin it. This is the Age of Trump.
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Old 01-06-2019, 09:33 PM
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That's some damning polling there. No way to spin it. This is the Age of Trump.

what is keeping them from moving? There ain't nobody at anybody's border that would prevent them from creating a caravan and just driving / walking in. Or hopping a flight and overstaying their visas.
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