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Old 10-12-2019, 04:06 PM
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Windows 10 desktop - what the hell happened?


You know how, in Windows 10, if you click on the Start menu it will show a bunch of large, ugly icons such as photos, the weather, a few games, etc.? These icons, for reference, are the ones that occasionally spin randomly to show you different photos, for example.

Well, somehow my desktop has been taken over by these things. I want my old desktop back, with the small, non-spinny icons that line up where I want them and stay put.

I'm not sure...maybe these are "app" icons?

How can I restore my old-school desktop?

Thanks much!
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Old 10-12-2019, 04:27 PM
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somehow "tablet mode" got turned on. I'll boot up my Win 10 PC and look for where that setting is.

edit: turn the circled setting to "off."

https://i.imgur.com/4Nf75p6.png

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Old 10-12-2019, 05:24 PM
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somehow "tablet mode" got turned on. I'll boot up my Win 10 PC and look for where that setting is.

edit: turn the circled setting to "off."

https://i.imgur.com/4Nf75p6.png
That wasn't my precise answer, jz, but you led me down the proper path.

I owe you an adult beverage.

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Old 10-13-2019, 08:08 AM
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" That wasn't my precise answer, jz, but you led me down the proper path. "
same as jz78817 offered you knowledge … perhaps you could state exactly what you did to resolve the issue? tomorrow or the next day … someone is bound to come across the same situation … and you will have helped him in turn … full circle.
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Old 10-13-2019, 10:04 AM
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same as jz78817 offered you knowledge … perhaps you could state exactly what you did to resolve the issue? tomorrow or the next day … someone is bound to come across the same situation … and you will have helped him in turn … full circle.
The quickest way to toggle between desktop and tablet mode is to click on the action bar (the rightmost icon in the taskbar) and click the tile for "tablet mode on/off".
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same as jz78817 offered you knowledge … perhaps you could state exactly what you did to resolve the issue? tomorrow or the next day … someone is bound to come across the same situation … and you will have helped him in turn … full circle.
Of course.

The key, for me, was realizing that it was "tablet mode" that I was looking at. Once I was made aware of that, I searched within settings to find where the Table Mode settings lived. There are options to have it activate when using a tablet, or to never activate (which is what I selected).

Sorry, don't remember exactly where in settings this is located; just search for Table Mode.

ETA: The toggle jz directed me to was already in the off positin.

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Old 10-12-2019, 04:37 PM
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You know how, in Windows 10, if you click on the Start menu it will show a bunch of large, ugly icons such as photos, the weather, a few games, etc.? These icons, for reference, are the ones that occasionally spin randomly to show you different photos, for example.

Well, somehow my desktop has been taken over by these things. I want my old desktop back, with the small, non-spinny icons that line up where I want them and stay put.

I'm not sure...maybe these are "app" icons?

How can I restore my old-school desktop?

Thanks much!
I'm scared. I'm going to have to get Windows 10 soon for a new video editing computer build. Is there any way to make the thing run in "grown-up" mode?

I completely avoided Windows 8 because I didn't want any part of a Playskool "My First Computer" OS. Please tell me there is a way to turn off the cartoons and any smart-phone type uselessness.
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When I very recently upgraded my desktop from Windows 7 to Windows 10, I used this website to help me get Win10 to a place that was a lot more familiar.

I also downloaded and installed Classic Shell as shown in the site above.

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Oh my yes. Classic Shell is a must. I'm glad to hear it works for Windows 10, too.
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Old 10-13-2019, 08:23 AM
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agreed … two weeks after buying my win-8 laptop … ended up installing classic-shell … been using it ever since (upgraded to win-10.1903). if not for classic-shell … i'd probably have gone mac-osx or linux.
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agreed … two weeks after buying my win-8 laptop … ended up installing classic-shell … been using it ever since (upgraded to win-10.1903). if not for classic-shell … i'd probably have gone mac-osx or linux.
See, I don't get this. You can't deal with Microsoft making some changes to the Start Menu, so you think moving to a platform with a significantly different user interface will be easier?

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people don't like having their cheese moved.
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Old 10-16-2019, 02:31 PM
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[...]Please tell me there is a way to turn off the cartoons and any smart-phone type uselessness.
Don't worry, there is what you are looking for.
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Classic Shell's author has quit updating it. There is a new open source replacement Open Shell:
https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/det...sic_start.html
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Old 10-13-2019, 08:10 AM
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Classic Shell's author has quit updating it. There is a new open source replacement Open Shell:
https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/det...sic_start.html
It is very hard to adapt such a program to each release of Windows 10 when MS seems to be deliberately modifying things to throw such programs off. It takes a lot of effort to do things like find out where/what is that registry setting now?

I recently did an update/refresh install and an amazing number of tweaks and settings were lost.
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Honestly, what's all the drama? If you unpin the tiles from 'start', you get a rather conventional-style start menu with no tiles and no empty space where tiles might have been.

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Old 10-14-2019, 01:32 AM
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Honestly, what's all the drama?
Here's the drama in a nutshell:
1 - MS announces new UI geared towards mobile devices
2 - MS announces same UI for desktop
3 - The entire planet vomited in unison (except for about 8 people)
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Old 10-14-2019, 03:20 AM
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Here's the drama in a nutshell:
1 - MS announces new UI geared towards mobile devices
2 - MS announces same UI for desktop
3 - The entire planet vomited in unison (except for about 8 people)
Actually, that estimate was updated to "about 8.1 people" almost immediately. "About 8 people" is no longer supported.

[d/r]

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Here's the drama in a nutshell:
1 - MS announces new UI geared towards mobile devices
2 - MS announces same UI for desktop
3 - The entire planet vomited in unison (except for about 8 people)
No they didn’t.
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No they didn’t.
That's true. I didn't.

I just laughed at all the idiots who bought 8 or 8.1.

Now I might vomit a bit because soon I'll have to get Windows 10 on a new computer and I'm scared that it has some stupid shit for phone-swipers that'll either be a pain to workaround or not possible to work around.
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That's true. I didn't.

I just laughed at all the idiots who bought 8 or 8.1.

Now I might vomit a bit because soon I'll have to get Windows 10 on a new computer and I'm scared that it has some stupid shit for phone-swipers that'll either be a pain to workaround or not possible to work around.
I had no issues with Windows 8. Guess that makes me an idiot. Thanks.
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No they didn’t.
While my post was an exaggeration, objectively, there was and is significant unhappiness with the Win UI changes after Win7.
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Here's the drama in a nutshell:
1 - MS announces new UI geared towards mobile devices
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We're talking about Windows 10
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When I very recently upgraded my desktop from Windows 7 to Windows 10, I used this website to help me get Win10 to a place that was a lot more familiar.

I also downloaded and installed Classic Shell as shown in the site above.
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You'll be reinstalling a lot of stuff every time Microsoft gets a wild hair across its asshole. Take a screenshot of your add/remove programs and stash it somewhere so you can remember all the stuff it will break and uninstall for you in order to put you back to that fucked up excuse for a start menu.
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We're talking about Windows 10
I think you are trying to say something like:
"the intro was with Win8, now that we are at Win10 it can't be considered the source of the drama anymore because it was a previous version."

If that is what you are attempting to say, I think it's pretty obvious why the source of the drama can be due to a change that happened in a previous version.


Or maybe you are thinking that the Win10 UI is very different from what people vomited over and that my "source of drama" doesn't apply to Win10 because there is zero similarity between Win10 and Win8?
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I think you are trying to say something like:
"the intro was with Win8, now that we are at Win10 it can't be considered the source of the drama anymore because it was a previous version."

If that is what you are attempting to say, I think it's pretty obvious why the source of the drama can be due to a change that happened in a previous version.


Or maybe you are thinking that the Win10 UI is very different from what people vomited over and that my "source of drama" doesn't apply to Win10 because there is zero similarity between Win10 and Win8?
It wouldn't be true even to say that there is ZERO similarity between Windows 8 and OSX.

As I mentioned upthread - if you don't like the tiles on the Win10 start menu, it takes a few seconds to make them go away forever, and you end up with something that looks and behaves like a more modern, mostly-better version of Windows 7

People resist change because it causes them pain
Change causes pain when it is big
Change gets big when you resist it for too long, and get left behind

Windows 8 wasn't all that bad. It was the wrong product for the market, but the reaction and drama was very silly - it wasn't bad in the technically-flawed way Vista or ME were bad - it just 'looked scary' to a lot of people, and got badmouthed by a lot of people who never even really tried it.
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I think your second response might answer the question you raised in your first: a user who switches to Gnome or KDE is moving one’s own cheese, which is much more palatable than the alternative.
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Its my observation about Microsoft - if a feature is useful or important in Windows or MS Office, then Microsoft will hide it or delete it in the new version.

I have real problems with a number of feature changes in the interface. The control panel is familiar, so of course it is deprecated and you get totally unfamiliar panels for the purpose of doing the same thing - often without the "Save changes" final commit button that has been a staple of most graphical interfaces since they appeared 30 years ago. Plus, you go through the new and clever interface to get to the guts of various system settings, only to find what is essentially the same panel as you saw in Win7 or Win XP. This makes me think that the re-write effort was only expended on cosmetic changes, n ot in actually fixing issues with the base level of the program.
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