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The rats are deserting the S(leaze) S(cow) Aaron Schock:

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The conservative editor-in-chief of Red State is calling for Rep. Aaron Schockís resignation amid a scandal involving the use of public and campaign funds.
"Rep. Aaron Schock (R-Ill.) has proven himself incapable of handling his own money, the money of his donors, and taxpayer money," Erick Erickson wrote Tuesday on the conservative blog "Red State." "He has lived excessively off the backs of taxpayers who must be reimbursed and off of donors to whom he is now a servant."...
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And the beat goes on:

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Another Bad Trip for Schock

Add another trip to Rep. Aaron Schock's list of potential headaches.

Schock appears to have improperly accepted money from an outside group to cover travel expenses for a companion on a trip to India and failed to disclose it in a possible violation of House rules, according to a National Journal review of public records....
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He's resigned:
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/0...ns-116153.html
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Does that mean a special election?
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Wow, I didn't see that coming. I wonder if it was only a matter of time before the public found out about something even worse than his spending habits.
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There has to be a special election. Representatives can't be appointed. The district is solid Republican, but I have no idea who will run.
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There has to be a special election. Representatives can't be appointed. The district is solid Republican, but I have no idea who will run.
Ray LaHood's son Darin has announced his intention to run. He is currently an Illinois state senator.
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Ray LaHood's son Darin has announced his intention to run. He is currently an Illinois state senator.
Does anyone know anything about him? His reputation for integrity and/or competence? What kind of Pub he is, moderate or far-RW?
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Looks like the Feds are sniffing around Schock now. Resigning might not have been enough.

http://chicago.suntimes.com/lynn-swe...-jury-finances
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Barney Frank is being an ass (as usual) regarding Congressman Schock.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/0...9.html?hp=r1_4
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Stating that someone's hurtful hypocrisy deserves exposure is being an ass?

Anyway, Schock's father insists he isn't gay, despite all the appearance of fabulousness. So that's that.

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Barney Frank is being an ass (as usual) regarding Congressman Schock.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/0...9.html?hp=r1_4
He's not a Congressman anymore!
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Stating that someone's hurtful hypocrisy deserves exposure is being an ass?
An attempt to publically out someone is being an ass. A person's sexual orientation is nobody's business but his or her own.
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He's not a Congressman anymore!
His resignation isn't effective until March 31st.
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An attempt to publically out someone is being an ass. A person's sexual orientation is nobody's business but his or her own.
Tell that to Congressmen who have consistently voted for every gay-bashing bill that's come up. Like Schock, for instance, who is far from the first, and would be far from the first to come out later.
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Tell that to Congressmen who have consistently voted for every gay-bashing bill that's come up.
Exactly which "gay-bashing" bills has Congressman Schock voted for? Cite, please.
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Exactly which "gay-bashing" bills has Congressman Schock voted for? Cite, please.
http://votesmart.org/candidate/key-v...ender-identity
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http://votesmart.org/candidate/polit.../#.VQzxUS5-C3w
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So the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012 is gay-bashing? That's a stretch, even for your side.

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So the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012 is gay-bashing? That's a stretch, even for your side.
Read the title of each bill and figure it out yourself.
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Read the title of each bill and figure it out yourself.
That IS the title of the bill.
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And the beat goes on:
Heh.

Was I the only one who smirked at the use of the phrase "a companion."

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Add another trip to Rep. Aaron Schock's list of potential headaches.

Schock appears to have improperly accepted money from an outside group to cover travel expenses for a companion on a trip to India and failed to disclose it in a possible violation of House rules, according to a National Journal review of public records....

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Heh.

Was I the only one who smirked at the use of the phrase "a companion."
Are we back in junior high?
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That IS the title of the bill.
So you failed to notice who it "prohibits the use of funds in contravention of the Defense of Marriage Act"?

You'll notice that Schock also voted against repealing "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" and also voted against amending the Federal Hate Crimes bill to include crimes where people were targeted due to their sexual orientation.

So yeah, he's supported some fairly homophobic positions.
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Are we back in junior high?
Hi Aaron! I love your abs! Totally vote for u!
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Are we back in junior high?
Er.. no.

I was thinking of the way and why media organizations used to use the phrase "longtime companion".

Were you aware of it?

If so, I'll be happy to help fight your ignorance since that's the purpose of the message board.
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So you failed to notice who it "prohibits the use of funds in contravention of the Defense of Marriage Act"?
The NDAA of 2012 passed the House 283-136, and the Senate by a vote of 86-13. And it was signed by President Obama.

Were all of those Representatives and Senators, and the President "gay-bashing"? Because that was the accusation in this thread.
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The NDAA of 2012 passed the House 283-136, and the Senate by a vote of 86-13. And it was signed by President Obama.

Were all of those Representatives and Senators, and the President "gay-bashing"? Because that was the accusation in this thread.
Have all of those Reps & Senators been rumoured to be gay? Do they like to take showers with their boy pals while voting anti-gay? Is this a grand conspiracy you've uncovered? Are all Republicans accused of being anti-gay closet types? This is amazing! First I've heard of it! Those silly gays. They just go around making everyone gay!
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Er.. no.

I was thinking of the way and why media organizations used to use the phrase "longtime companion".

Were you aware of it?
Of course I am. Most often, I've encountered that in Obituaries, where the writer is trying to be discreet and respectful of everyone's feelings.

The sophomoric use of the word companion in this context, and especially the juvenile smirking about it, is just wrong.

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Have all of those Reps & Senators been rumoured to be gay? Do they like to take showers with their boy pals while voting anti-gay? Is this a grand conspiracy you've uncovered? Are all Republicans accused of being anti-gay closet types? This is amazing! First I've heard of it! Those silly gays. They just go around making everyone gay!
Your post is beyond ridiculous. Running coach posted a link that somehow seeks to tar Congressman Schock for his vote on NDAA. No mention of the 283 Reps, 86 Senators, and the President who also approved the same bill. This is nuts.
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Your post is beyond ridiculous. Running coach posted a link that somehow seeks to tar Congressman Schock for his vote on NDAA. No mention of the 283 Reps, 86 Senators, and the President who also approved the same bill. This is nuts.
Is gay slander common? Or does it usually turn out to be true?
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Your post is beyond ridiculous. Running coach posted a link that somehow seeks to tar Congressman Schock for his vote on NDAA. No mention of the 283 Reps, 86 Senators, and the President who also approved the same bill. This is nuts.
The link I posted listed several bills that were categorized as being marriage related in some way. it should be no problem to determine which of those bills were related to same-sex marriage and which weren't.

Stop pretending you don't understand such things and mischaracterizing my posts based on that "misunderstanding".
You're the only one who fooled by that act.
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Was President Clinton "gay-bashing" when he signed DOMA? Were Hillary Clinton and President Obama "gay-bashing" when they supported traditional marriage in the 2008 campaign?
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Was President Clinton "gay-bashing" when he signed DOMA? Were Hillary Clinton and President Obama "gay-bashing" when they supported traditional marriage in the 2008 campaign?
Interesting choice of phrase with "traditional marriage".

The answer to your question of course is that President Clinton very clearly was pandering to homophobia when he signed DOMA into law in the 1990s and Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama were also clearly pandering to homophobia in 2008.

All three have reversed their decisions and are no longer pandering to homophobia.

Schock of course, unless I'm wrong, has not reversed positions on hate crimes legislation, DOMA, and "Don't Ask, Don't Tell", so I'm not sure your point in bringing them up.

Now, perhaps you can shed light on your own particular beliefs regarding "traditional marriage" as you call it.

Do you believe that gay marriage should be legal and recognized in the US?

If not, why not?

Thanks in advance.

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The answer to your question of course is that President Clinton very clearly was pandering to homophobia when he signed DOMA into law in the 1990s and Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama were also clearly pandering to homophobia in 2008.
Yet, I have no doubt that the majority of the posters on this board voted for Clinton twice, voted for either Hillary or Obama in the primary, and voted for Obama twice.

Suddenly, it's an unforgivable "sin" that Congressman Schock voted for the NDAA in 2012.

It stinks of a double standard.
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Yet, I have no doubt that the majority of the posters on this board voted for Clinton twice, voted for either Hillary or Obama in the primary, and voted for Obama twice.

Suddenly, it's an unforgivable "sin" that Congressman Schock voted for the NDAA in 2012.

It stinks of a double standard.
When given a choice between a mildly homophobic candidate and an extremely homophobic candidate we chose the lesser of two evils.

Shock wasn't just asked his opinion on gay marriage and said he didn't support in he chose to be a vocal oponent and campaigned against it. He has actively fundraising to support extreme oponents of gay marriage. His position is in no way comparable to any of the Democratic candidates your bringing up.

He brought thousands of people's rights into the policall arena. He decided people's sexuality was his business. He doesn't get the 'none of your business pass, for himself.

claim double standards all you want. His positions were wrong and he should suffer consiquences for them.
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Interesting choice of phrase with "traditional marriage". .
Wrong. It hasn't been interesting for years. Today it's just sad.
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To the surprise of no one, Schock comes out as gay, apologizes for past anti-gay votes (but without using the word "apologize".

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Former Republican member of Congress Aaron Schock came out as gay on Thursday in a long statement posted to Instagram and his personal website.

Schock spoke about his years of struggling with his sexuality and estrangement from his conservative family, and added that if he were in Congress now, he would "would support LGBTQ rights in every way [he] could."

During his six years in Congress representing Illinois, Schock consistently voted against policies supported by the LGBTQ community, including the 2010 repeal of "don't ask, don't tell," which allowed gay and bisexual people to openly serve in the military, and the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act.

Although he did not explicitly apologize for his legislative record, Schock said that when he first ran for office in 2008, presidential candidates John McCain, Barack Obama, and Hillary Clinton publicly opposed marriage equality.

"That fact doesnít make my then position any less wrong," he said, "but itís sometimes easy to forget that it was leaders of both parties who for so long wrongly understood what it was to defend the right to marry."
Would like to note his dedication for blaming his vote on... Obama. Because of course it's Obama's fault.

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Sad that his family won't accept him.
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It's what Jesus would have wanted, though.
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Fuck that guy.

No, wait, amend that.

Nobody fuck that guy.
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That seems a bit out-of-line for Politics & Elections.
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This is as much of a shock (pun intended) as this was. SFW.

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