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Old 03-23-2020, 06:21 PM
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Doctor Trump Prescribing...


He's still hitting hard on the anti-malarial drug combined with Z-mycin will cure everybody. Remember, he's asmart guy, and the reports look good to him!

Noticeably absent from the Presidential press conference was Dr Anthony Fauci, from NIH, who put the brakes on Trump's previous attempt to prescribe the drug combo.

Fauci claimed the "good reports" were merely anecdotal evidence.

If you google this stuff, you'll find other anecdotal evidence this combo KILLS some people.

But Doctor Trump is a smart guy. I wonder if he even knows what anecdotal evidence means?


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He's still hitting hard on the anti-malarial drug combined with Z-mycin will cure everybody. Remember, he's asmart guy, and the reports look good to him!
Trump doesn't really believe it works.

He keeps on about it because he's a liar and a con man. Con men will say whatever it takes to lure you into their confidence; they will work anything into their patter except an admission of being wrong. It's like if he was trying to sell you a real estate deal and you said the construction timeline just wasn't possible; he wouldn't negotiate with that, he'd just lie, and say he knew a guy or a company or a technology that could make it possible.
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Arizona man dies after taking the meds and his spouse is critical.

https://fox5sandiego.com/news/corona...reat-covid-19/
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Old 03-23-2020, 08:30 PM
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"And if I say I wanna set you free
Don't you know you'll be in misery
They call me (Dr. Trump)
They call me Dr. Trump (calling Dr. Trump)
I've got the cure you're thinkin' of (calling Dr. Trump)
And even though I'm full of sin
In the end you'll let me in
You'll let me through, there's nothin' you can do…"

ETA: Apologies to KISS, eh.

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Arizona man dies after taking the meds and his spouse is critical.

https://fox5sandiego.com/news/corona...reat-covid-19/
I wonder if they purchased it online, or from a Mexican pharmacy, and those tablets contained something other than chloroquine - a drug that in itself can have some nasty side effects, as can hydroxychloroquine, which can also be used for malaria but is more commonly used for rheumatoid arthritis and other similar autoimmune diseases.

The pharmacy world is abuzz with chatter about what to do when physicians and other practitioners who can prescribe (mostly NPs and PA-Cs) prescribe this for themselves. However, the "shortage" is mainly due to hospitals, which don't use much of this, ordering it so they may have some on hand if they need it.
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I wonder if they purchased it online, or from a Mexican pharmacy, and those tablets contained something other than chloroquine - a drug that in itself can have some nasty side effects, as can hydroxychloroquine, which can also be used for malaria but is more commonly used for rheumatoid arthritis and other similar autoimmune diseases.
I saw a news report that said they purchased a non-pharmaceutical version that was intended to be used for cleaning fish tanks
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If this POTUS gives pseudomedical "advice" while outside DC, can state officials charge him with practicing medicine without a licence?
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He is just soooooooo stoopid.
I see they got to him about calling the virus the 'Chinese Virus', Thank god.
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Trump doesn't really believe it works.

He keeps on about it because he's a liar and a con man. Con men will say whatever it takes to lure you into their confidence; they will work anything into their patter except an admission of being wrong. It's like if he was trying to sell you a real estate deal and you said the construction timeline just wasn't possible; he wouldn't negotiate with that, he'd just lie, and say he knew a guy or a company or a technology that could make it possible.
From The Art of the Deal:
The final key to the way I promote is bravado. I play to people’s fantasies. People may not always think big themselves, but they can still get very excited by those who do. That’s why a little hyperbole never hurts. People want to believe that something is the biggest and the greatest and the most spectacular. I call it truthful hyperbole. It’s an innocent form of exaggeration—and a very effective form of promotion.
“A little hyperbole never hurts” may be mostly true when you are hawking internet steaks or running an oceanfront casino into bankruptcy, but when you are responsible for the health and welfare of the nation...we’ll, as we’ve already seen, Trump takes “no responsibility at all”.

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From The Art of the Deal:
The final key to the way I promote is bravado. I play to people’s fantasies. People may not always think big themselves, but they can still get very excited by those who do. That’s why a little hyperbole never hurts. People want to believe that something is the biggest and the greatest and the most spectacular. I call it truthful hyperbole. It’s an innocent form of exaggeration—and a very effective form of promotion.
“A little hyperbole never hurts” may be mostly true when you are hawking internet steaks or running an oceanfront casino into bankruptcy, but when you are responsible for the health and welfare of the nation...we’ll, as we’ve already seen, Trump takes “no responsibility at all”.

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I've never read the book, but I could have predicted something to that effect would be in there. I mean, the guy told us who he was.
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I saw a news report that said they purchased a non-pharmaceutical version that was intended to be used for cleaning fish tanks
It was a different chemical entirely, not just a “non-pharmaceutical version”, and reportedly they already had it in the house, having used it in the past to (what else) clean their fish tank.

Some people are just stupid - I don’t think you can blame this on Trump.
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Trump doesn't really believe it works.

He keeps on about it because he's a liar and a con man. Con men will say whatever it takes to lure you into their confidence; they will work anything into their patter except an admission of being wrong. It's like if he was trying to sell you a real estate deal and you said the construction timeline just wasn't possible; he wouldn't negotiate with that, he'd just lie, and say he knew a guy or a company or a technology that could make it possible.
Sounds like he isn't the only one
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New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Sunday that his state is set to begin clinical trials this week for a malaria drug that President Donald Trump has touted as a possible treatment for coronavirus.

“The president is optimistic about these drugs, and we are all optimistic that it could work,” Cuomo said at a daily press conference in Albany.
https://dailycaller.com/2020/03/22/c...s-coronavirus/
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Just try to get a new drug approved by the FDA when you present only anecdotal evidence.,

Unless Trump appoints somebody who once put a band-aid all by himself, oh, and contributed 500 mill to Trump's campaign.

But Doctor Trump is a smart guy! He knows that because he said so, himself!


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Trump has already proposed one solution...


1. Possibly infected man appears on US street.

2. Trump shoots him.

3. Trump re-elected!
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Arizona man dies after taking the meds and his spouse is critical.

https://fox5sandiego.com/news/corona...reat-covid-19/
I had a husband who drank chloroquine.
He died, he died.
Trump said it would cure the virus.
He lied, he lied.
Why oh why is my husband dead?
Couldn’t that virus have killed a liberal instead?

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It was a different chemical entirely, not just a “non-pharmaceutical version”, and reportedly they already had it in the house, having used it in the past to (what else) clean their fish tank.

Some people are just stupid - I don’t think you can blame this on Trump.
It may not be reasonable to pin this particular incident on Trump, but as candidate and then President he’s spent four years promoting mistrust in government, promulgating “deep state” conspiracies where none exist, belittling career bureaucrat like Dr. Fauci, attempting to dismantle medical services, public health, and social welfare programs of all kinds, and generally acting like the Fox News addict that he is except with millions of Twitter followers clueless enough to believe every word “seriously if not literally”. Trump is responsible for creating a situation in which many people feel they have to fend for themselves because that is exactly what he has set out to do.

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The combination *may* work, and yet be risky at the same time. There is a difference between someone like Gov Cuomo who is trying to use this combination as a possible solution to solving some of his problems, and a con-man like Trump foolishly telling everyone "We've got a cure."

I know exactly which anti-malarial drugs everyone's talking about. Had the chance to use them when I was planning a trip into dense forests of SE Asia, where dengue and malaria are real threats. I decided not to when I found out that they're typically only about 50-70% effective as a prophylactic, and yes, they have really nasty side effects.
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Right, "we're looking into whether there's something to this" is fair enough. "This is something already proven safe" creates a different expectation on those lacking knowledge.

But now watch someone at the next presser bring up the matter of the fatality, ticking him off and leading him to triple or quadruple down on it. Really, what use is it to keep confronting him with "admit you were wrong" lines of questioning? It's not going to happen,

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It's not that this POTUS wants you (or me) dead. It's that he doesn't care if a few million Americans die. We, the owned, are expendable - just liabilities on the national spreadsheet. Putin's puppy pisses on us. Sad.

Is coughing on someone now an assault?

ETA: Pandemic response team?

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But...but..Easter is a special day. We all must endeavor to be healthy and pack the churches.
I hear there is a magic pixie in the sky who will make us all well.
And...dinner on the grounds. Right after the easter egg hunt.

I feel all this, bigly.

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A nationwide shortage of two drugs touted as possible treatments for the coronavirus is being driven in part by doctors inappropriately prescribing the medicines for family, friends, and themselves, according to pharmacists and state regulators.

“It’s disgraceful, is what it is,” said Garth Reynolds, executive director of the Illinois Pharmacists Association, which started getting calls and emails Saturday from members saying they were receiving questionable prescriptions. “And completely selfish.”

Demand for chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine surged over the past several days as President Donald Trump promoted them as possible treatments for the coronavirus and online forums buzzed with excitement over a small study suggesting the combination of hydroxychloroquine and a commonly used antibiotic could be effective in treating COVID-19.
https://arstechnica.com/science/2020...lves-families/

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<Trump, stamping his little feet>


"I wanna have my easter egg party! want it! WANT IT! YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO!"

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If the Monaco GP is cancelled, Fuck Easter!
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It may not be reasonable to pin this particular incident on Trump, but as candidate and then President he’s spent four years promoting mistrust in government, promulgating “deep state” conspiracies where none exist, belittling career bureaucrat like Dr. Fauci, attempting to dismantle medical services, public health, and social welfare programs of all kinds, and generally acting like the Fox News addict that he is except with millions of Twitter followers clueless enough to believe every word “seriously if not literally”. Trump is responsible for creating a situation in which many people feel they have to fend for themselves because that is exactly what he has set out to do.

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You make him sound almost competent.
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If the Monaco GP is cancelled, Fuck Easter!
Prince Albert II of Monaco is the first head of state to test positive.

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You make him sound almost competent.
Even a blind pig...

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