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Fine. Let's go back to basics.

Somebody received something in a PO box?

And there's a correlation between that action and about 150 people being born?
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Old 02-21-2020, 02:37 PM
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Somebody received something in a PO box?

And there's a correlation between that action and about 150 people being born?
NO to everything here.
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I'm pretty sure I know the answer. I'll bow out now, in case others want to have a go.
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I swear to God, Mahaloth, if there's a pun involved, I'm pitting you.

Fine, the PO Box was used for:

-Permanent address?
-Mail?
-Package delivery?
-As a sort of safe?

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Old 02-22-2020, 01:53 PM
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Was the P.O. box used as the mailing address for the location where they were born?

Were they all born in the same location?

Did the parents share a common occupation? If yes: military personnel? Scientists? Crew of a ship?

Did the parents share any other characteristics in common?
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Old 02-22-2020, 02:28 PM
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Was the P.O. box used as the mailing address for the location where they were born?

YES

Were they all born in the same location?

YES

Did the parents share a common occupation? If yes: military personnel? Scientists? Crew of a ship?

YES, for the most part. MILITARY PERSONNEL & SCIENTISTS

(no to crew of ship)

Did the parents share any other characteristics in common?

NO - the job and living location being the big one
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Were they born in Antarctica?
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I swear to God, Mahaloth, if there's a pun involved, I'm pitting you.

NO pun.

Fine, the PO Box was used for:

-Permanent address?

NO(not to live inside the little POX box)

-Mail?

YES

-Package delivery?

YES
-As a sort of safe?

NO
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Were they born in Antarctica?
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Foreign military bases?
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Was it a PO Box used for people working on a secret project, like the Manhattan Project?
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Was it a PO Box used for people working on a secret project, like the Manhattan Project?
YES.

In fact....you solved it! It was the Manhattan Project! The babies were listed as being born at PO Box 1663 because the actual location of the project was secret. Mail-carriers began to get suspicious when hundreds of baby items were all going to the same location.

They were actually born at Los Alamos, but it had to be kept secret because of the project.

Their birth certificates specifically listed PO Box 1663 as their place of birth, which was rather strange.
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Herman had it made. He ran a successful hotel and was even making money and helping out local schools and universities. Until….well, he was executed for a truly bizarre crime. What did he do?


Another true one, so if you know the story, let's let folks guess for awhile. I struggled to write this one, so let's hope it is decent. I can never tell.
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Herman had it made. He ran a successful hotel and was even making money and helping out local schools and universities. Until….well, he was executed for a truly bizarre crime. What did he do?


Another true one, so if you know the story, let's let folks guess for awhile. I struggled to write this one, so let's hope it is decent. I can never tell.
I think I know. So, unless the next questions prove me wrong, I'm bowing out.
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Herman had it made. He ran a successful hotel and was even making money and helping out local schools and universities. Until….well, he was executed for a truly bizarre crime. What did he do?
Is Herman a human adult?
Was he tried in court?

Is this in present-day U.S.?
If not, would the crime still carry the DP in present-day U.S.?
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If this is the Herman I'm thinking about, this is a truly gruesome story.

Did he also run a pharmacy?
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Was the crime murder?
Was the crime sexual in nature?
Was it a crime against a nation as a whole, such as treason or espionage?
Was the crime in a military setting?

(for the purpose of the above questions, "the crime" is what he was executed for, regardless of whether he actually did it or not)

To the best of your knowledge, did he actually commit the crime for which he was executed?
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Was the crime related to his work at the hotel?
Was the crime related to his charitable works?
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Is Herman a human adult?

YES

Was he tried in court?

YES

Is this in present-day U.S.?

NO

If not, would the crime still carry the DP in present-day U.S.?

YES
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If this is the Herman I'm thinking about, this is a truly gruesome story.


Did he also run a pharmacy?

YES
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Was the crime murder?

YES

Was the crime sexual in nature?

YES(I think so, actually)

Was it a crime against a nation as a whole, such as treason or espionage?

NO

Was the crime in a military setting?

NO

To the best of your knowledge, did he actually commit the crime for which he was executed?

YES
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Was the crime related to his work at the hotel?
Was the crime related to his charitable works?
YES to both


This may be somewhat well known, so no GOOGLING!
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Was at least one of his victim(s) a student at one of the schools he helped?
Was at least one of his victim(s) otherwise involved at one of the schools he helped?
Was at least one of his victim(s) a guest at his hotel?
Was at least one of his victim(s) otherwise involved with his hotel?

(and a bit of a hunch, but you said it was gruesome...)
Was cannibalism involved?
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Was at least one of his victim(s) a student at one of the schools he helped?

NO(to my knowledge)

Was at least one of his victim(s) otherwise involved at one of the schools he helped?

NO(to my knowledge)

Was at least one of his victim(s) a guest at his hotel?

YES

Was at least one of his victim(s) otherwise involved with his hotel?

PERHAPS(but NO, not that I know of)

Was cannibalism involved?

NO
I do not know the specifics of the victims other than "they were people". If you research later and find out more about them, it is possible they are one of the above things.

An adequate answer would have been "IRRELEVANT" to everything except cannibalism.
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OK, so the crime was related to his charitable work helping out schools, but not by his victims being associated with the schools...

That'll take some thought.

Was anyone associated with any of the schools an accomplice?
Was his charitable work related to his motive?
Was his hotel connected to the crime in any way other than at least one victim being a guest there?
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Herman had it made. He ran a successful hotel and was even making money and helping out local schools and universities. Until….well, he was executed for a truly bizarre crime. What did he do?



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Was anyone associated with any of the schools an accomplice?

NO

Was his charitable work related to his motive?

NO

Was his hotel connected to the crime in any way other than at least one victim being a guest there?

YES
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Was he helping out local schools and universities by supplying them with corpses and/or skeletons?
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Were all the victims guests at the hotel?

Did the hotel, his access to the hotel, assist Herman with the commission of the crime? Did he commit the crimes in a vacant hotel room?

Herman also ran a pharmacy, did he drug his victims in order to commit his crimes?
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Was he helping out local schools and universities by supplying them with corpses and/or skeletons?
YES. Bones, mainly.

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Were all the victims guests at the hotel?

Many, if not all.

Did the hotel, his access to the hotel, assist Herman with the commission of the crime?

YES

Did he commit the crimes in a vacant hotel room?

YES, partly.

Herman also ran a pharmacy, did he drug his victims in order to commit his crimes?

IRRELEVANT(I don't know, actually). Not part of the solution for me if he did.
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Oh ... this does sound somewhat like a case I can think of, but some of the minor details aren't quite right.

Did he have an accomplice?

If so, did the accomplice escape execution by giving evidence against him?
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Oh ... this does sound somewhat like a case I can think of, but some of the minor details aren't quite right.

Did he have an accomplice?

If so, did the accomplice escape execution by giving evidence against him?
NO, not to my knowledge.
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Did Herman destroy the bodies of his victims to elude capture?

Did the pharmacy play a role in helping him commit the crimes?

Did he kill his victims with a physical attack?
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Did Herman destroy the bodies of his victims to elude capture?

YES

Did the pharmacy play a role in helping him commit the crimes?

NO

Did he kill his victims with a physical attack?

VARIOUS WAYS
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Was the pharmacy at all relevant?
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OK, so we know that he was murdering people at his hotel and then giving the bodies (or parts thereof) to his local university. What more is there to know?

Do we need to know his motive for the murders?
Do we need to know the method of the murders?
Do we need to know how he selected his victims?
Was there any relevant reason for donating the body parts other than just getting rid of them?
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OK, so we know that he was murdering people at his hotel and then giving the bodies (or parts thereof) to his local university. What more is there to know?

Do we need to know his motive for the murders?
Do we need to know the method of the murders?
Do we need to know how he selected his victims?
Was there any relevant reason for donating the body parts other than just getting rid of them?
Nah, I was thinking we can just call this one solved. I didn't set out enough expectations.

It's HH Holmes, who had a "murder castle" built. Trapdoors that lead down to acid vats, rooms with gas chamber vents to gas people.

We don't know the full details of what he did, but he was a full blown psychohpathic killer and one of the earlier serial killers known in the US.

Creepy looking guy, too.
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Ok, let's try another legal one.

Bob was charged with a crime he didn't commit. Although completely unable to defend himself in court, he wasn't punished. This was the outcome the police had intended.

What happened?
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1. Is Bob human?

2. Was this a real situation?

3. Any word play in this?

4. Are all the people in this human beings?

5. Was this a simulation or testing of some sort?
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Was Bob an undercover police officer or informant?

Would it be helpful to know the country where this happened?

Would it be helpful to know the time period?

Was Bob unable to defend himself because...

He wasn't physically present?

Defending himself would have exposed him to danger?

He was already dead?
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1. Is Bob human? YES

2. Was this a real situation? YES

3. Any word play in this? NO

4. Are all the people in this human beings? YES

5. Was this a simulation or testing of some sort? NO

Fretful Porpentine

Was Bob an undercover police officer or informant? NO

Would it be helpful to know the country where this happened? MAYBE

Would it be helpful to know the time period? MAYBE

Was Bob unable to defend himself because...

He wasn't physically present? NO

Defending himself would have exposed him to danger? NO

He was already dead? NO

Biotop

Did someone else confess to the crime? NO



Bob was charged with a crime he didn't commit. Although completely unable to defend himself in court, he wasn't punished. This was the outcome the police had intended.

What happened?
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Is there something special about Bob's that explains his inability to testify? Was it age? medical condition? mental condition? physical handicap?
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Is there something special about Bob's that explains his inability to testify? YES
Was it age? YES
medical condition? NO
mental condition? NO
physical handicap?NO
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Was Bob an infant or small child?
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Was Bob an infant or small child? YES

Was this a "test case", intended to challenge a law? NO
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Did this involved establishing identity?

Did this involve establishing nationality?
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Did this involve establishing nationality? NO
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Was Bob an infant or small child? YES
Was Bob physically capable of committing the crime?

Did Bob's case actually go to trial? Was Bob acquitted of the crime?

Was Bob's life improved by being charged and not punished (in comparison to never having being charged at all)?
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Was Bob physically capable of committing the crime? NO

Did Bob's case actually go to trial?
Was Bob acquitted of the crime?

I'm not quite sure how the specifics of the case played out, but probably the closest-to-accurate answers are YES to the first and NO to the second

Was Bob's life improved by being charged and not punished (in comparison to never having being charged at all)?YES
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Did bob have a medical problem? Did getting charged help with it?

Did getting charged help save Bob's life?

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Was the crime that Bob was charged with an actual crime that had really been committed by somebody? If yes, does it matter who the real criminal was?

Did this happen in the US? If no, could it plausibly have happened in the US?

Did / could this happen in the present day?
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