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Obvious things about a creative work you realize after the millionth time (OPEN SPOILERS POSSIBLE)
I have posted about working for a year on an annotated versions of Ira Levin's "Rosemary's Baby," only to look at the cover six months later and realize:
Rosemary's Baby. Rose-mary's Baby Mary's Baby ![]() Yesterday I was walking down the street singing "Yellow Submarine" Sky of blue and sea of green In our yellow submarine when it hit me: Blue-green-yellow To make blue green, yellow is added. Give me some more examples of obvious things you didn't notice till much later. Last edited by Annie-Xmas; 07-24-2009 at 09:21 AM. |
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Didn't they specifically mention that in the book? I remember it in the movie.
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I still don't get what you're saying. There was someone named Rose and it was really mary's baby? |
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The Battle of Wits in Princess Bride: Vizzini isn't trying to reason logically about where the poison is. He's gauging the Man in Black's reaction whenever he says it's in one or the other. Whenever he says the poison is in front of the Man in Black, he tenses up, and whenever he says that it's in front of himself, he relaxes. From there, he just had to figure out whether the Man in Black was bluffing or not, something that Vizzini is very good at.
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Rosie by Jackson Browne, from Running On Empty.
I'd been listening to it for about 5 years before I realized that he was singing about masturbation. ![]() |
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I mentioned this in another thread before, but I don't know how many years I heard the song Life in the Fast Lane before I realized that "there were lines on the mirror" was referring to cocaine.
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When I was in college I took a class called Analysis of Song Lyrics. We pulled this one apart. We came up with three (maybe more) explanations for that line: -Lines of cocaine on a mirror -Cracks in a rearview mirror after a car crash -Facial wrinkles Our conclusion was that it was all three and so packed with meaning. We may have been reading too much into it, though. |
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Queen's "Bohemian Rhapsody": "Mama, just killed a man Put a gun against his head Pulled my trigger now he's dead" For a long while I didn't get that there was a comma after mama. I always visualized the singer's mama being some hard-knock woman busting into a trailer with a revolver. Simon and Garfunkel's "The Boxer": "But I got no offers Just a come on from the whores on 7th avenue I do declare, there were times when I was so lonesome I took some comfort there" I was about eleven when I first heard the song and I thought "whores" was "horse". I pictured this young man sleeping in the stables among the horses ![]() |
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I could never make out the lyrics between "But I got no offers," and "on 7th avenue," and actually, I thought they were saying something about 5th avenue. So now that part make sense. Thanks. |
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![]() Holy crap! I never knew that and I've been listening to that song for years. As to the OP, I got nothing right now. |
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I have seen the Dead Parrot Sketch more than a few times. At some point I noticed that when John Cleese is yelling at Polly to wake up, he opens the door of the cage! I mean, a birdcage isn't exactly soundproof with the door closed, is it? But he hold it right up to his mouth and opens the door, all the better to rouse him from dreams of the fjords. There's something about that action that fits perfectly with the over-exacting nature of the character.
I tend to think that the Pythons greatest gifts were in their writing, but that's one case where the detail of the performance really sells it. |
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That is dead solid perfect, R A. I recently saw the interview of John Cleese on Inside the Actor's Studio where the discussion rolled around to the question of just what is funny. He maintained that it is comical to see someone going increasingly berserk, but what is really humorous is the reactions of the other characters observing the meltdown. I had to re-review the dead parrot sketch after reading your post, and my cold beverage came out my nose until I was forced to set it down before wasting more of it. My sides still ache from seeing him try to explain "...was no more....he has ceased to be... he has expired... gone to meet his maker...he's an EX-PARROT!" |
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You called? |
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In 2000, there was an intriguing movie called Shadow of the Vampire. It's a meta-fiction film that posits the idea the F.W. Murnau, director of the legendary silent horror film Nosferatu used a real "live" vampire to act as the vampire in the film.
I don't know if spoiler tags are necessary for a ten year old film, but just in case.... SPOILER:
Anyway, I happen to buy a DVD copy of "Nosferatu" several days ago, and watched it for the first time in years. I noticed that the set for that final scene, which "Shadow" duplicated precisely, also has a mirror in the very same corner. BUT, in the original film the vampire does have a reflection! Given the amount of research that obviously was done on the original film, I can't imagine that this is a goof. Rather, I think it was a deliberate 'inaccuracy' meant as a wink*wink*nudge*nudge* to all the folks who actually bothered to watch the original film. (On a small side note, had I known I could have watched the whole film on youtube, I wouldn't even have bothered with the $6.00 DVD.) Last edited by Don Draper; 02-01-2010 at 02:09 PM. |
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To show how easy -- here's something I missed every time I saw the film until a couple of years ago. In Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein Bela Lugosi's Dracula very definitely casts a reflection in the mirror when he bites his assistant. And not only was Bela Lugosi the chief player in countless performances of the play (where his not being visible in the mirror is a key plot point), but he'd done it in the 1931 movie, made at the very same studio. And nobody caught this? I suppose it's possible that this is a nudge-nudge joke here, too, but that seems wayyyyyy too nuanced for an Abbott and Costello movie. |
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Huh. I've lived in the PNW all my life as well, and everyone I know calls the blanket in question a duvet or a comforter. Duvet is more common if the blanket is kept in a covering and sometimes is used to describe the covering rather than the blanket itself. Around here, "quilt" is only used for actual quilts. I'm in the Olympia-Lacey area, if that makes any difference.
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But the reflection in the original movie? You do realise I hope that Nosferatu was made in 1922? They didn't even have sound or colour film, let alone special effects. Of course they could have taken the mirror off the wall. But I doubt if much research went into it; it was just an illegal adaptation of Bram Stoker's novel. And anyway, in the movie "Bram Stoker's Dracula" Dracula can walk in broad daylight! It doesn't hurt him, although it reduces him to a low powered vampire. (Start Eddie Izzard sketch...) |
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Making a mirror not reflect what the audience expects it to reflect doesn't take much in the way of special effects, and was totally within the capabilities of 1922 filmmakers.
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It just suddenly clicked for me that the Xanth series by legendary hack Piers Anthony is self-titled. PiersAnthony. PierXanthony. Xanth.
God, what a egomaniac. |
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![]() Of course they had special effects - hell, Nosferatu added to the standard vampire mythos with special effects - a fade was used to make Orlok disintegrate in the sun. A point that doesn't exist in Stoker's novel. Interiors were filmed in a studio, not in real buildings, so it's not like they couldn't use camera angles, a hole in the wall, a photograph, or any number of other tricks to make the mirror not reflect Shreck, if they felt it was important - look outside the window, it's clear they weren't too concerned with making things look realistic. (Or, of course, they could have just not put one where it would reflect him.) Now, to make the two versions of the scene mesh, one could assume that Murnau, after killing the real Orlok, went back and refilmed the scene with an actor, making sure to get him in a mirror to hide the fact that he originally filmed it with a real no-reflection vampire. Last edited by Kamino Neko; 02-11-2010 at 02:54 PM. |
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That's not just in the movie Bram Stoker's Dracula, it's in Bram Stoker's Dracula as well. Count Dracula can go out during the day if he wants to, but he apparently doesn't like it and his powers are more limited than they are at night. He does it when he has to, though. In Chapter 24 Dracula is described as visiting the docks at about 5 pm (more than an hour before sunset) wearing "a hat of straw which suit not him or the time" to arrange for passage out of England.
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30 Rock is a remake of The Mary Tyler Moore show. It took me two years.
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Hell, I got that beat! I'm old enough to have seen Have Gun, Will Travel on original broadcasts (barely.) I never knew what the heck the title meant until a couple of weeks ago when a skoshi bit of insomnia had me watching Encore Western at 4 a.m. It's a cookbook! No, no. It's a work sought classified ad! I swear I was so tickled that I finally figured that out.
I used to think that it meant, "If I have a gun, I'll travel; otherwise not." Now I see it's more like, "Have window-washing squeegees, will travel to find work." Sheesh. A mere 45 years later... Last edited by MonkeyMensch; 07-25-2009 at 12:33 AM. |
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I listened to, played, and sang "All Along the Watchtower" a bazillion times before I realized the two approaching riders were, in fact, the Joker and the Thief. I thought they were inside the compound with the watchtower where princes kept the view, and it was that place thatthey had to get out of!
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A couple of decades later, I was looking something up in the dictionary and saw the word "Paladin" near the word I was looking for. I discovered a Paladin was a knight errant under the reign of Charlemagne, who went around righting wrongs. Shazam! OK - NOW the horsey figure (the knight chess piece) made sense! "Palidan" wasn't the guy's real name - it was just his working name! "A knight without armor in a savage land" - duh! Oh, and his card meant I have a gun and I will travel. Just send me a telegram. It only took me 20 years to discover this, though! |
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I've been hearing "Gimme Some Lovin'" for decades now, but it was only a few months ago, hearing it on the radio, when I realized that Steve Winwood was trying to sing like Ray Charles. Should have been obvious, never was.
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When you get right down to it, who isn't trying to sing like Ray Charles?
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It took me years to realize that "Brown Eyed Girl" was actually about anal sex.
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I'm watching them on DVD now, and they are awesome. One of the shows from the first season has the origin of the dance in the Star Trek pilot - in a show written by Roddenberry. In the very first show, he is introduced saying farewell to a woman, with a look that shows that Paladin doesn't love only his horse. ![]() For my screwup, it took me years of listening to Dylan's Motorpsycho Nighmare to realize it was a takeoff on Psycho - despite very obvious hints such as the title ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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... And about ten years earlier, I had suddenly realized why there were all those rooms at the top of the stairs in the Longbranch Saloon on Gunsmoke.
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I always thought Paladin's first name was Wire.
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For some reason it took years of casual listening before I heard Mick Jagger doing backing vocals on Carly Simon's "You're So Vain". Just never knew it was there before...
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I wrote this in a version of this thread two years ago:
Near the end of the Huston/Bogart version of The Maltese Falcon, Gutman is explaining to Spade why Thursby was shot. As he says that Thursby "was quite determinedly loyal to Miss O’Shaughnessy," a look of realization crosses Bogart's face, and he looks at Mary Astor, whose eyes drop guiltily. It was only a couple of years ago, on watching the film for perhaps the 10,000th time, that I caught on to the fact that Spade has only just realized that Brigid had won Thursby's loyalty by sleeping with him. Very significant in light of how Spade will deal with Brigid just a few minutes later. |
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(And Robot Arm posted the same point about the Parrot Sketch!)
Recycling is good! |
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Along similar lines, it dawned on me many years after the fact that the main character in E.T: the Extra-Terrestrial is named ElioT.
Also in the Terminator movies, the man who is destined to save mankind from doom (whose father is a mystery to everyone) is John Conner, whose initials would be J.C. - kind of like another well-known savior with an ambiguous paternity... |
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Not something creative but... I have a habit of trying to figure out what the different letters on the back of cars mean. Only recently did I realize what the A in Audi A4, A6, and A8 stands for. Duh!
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Okay, here's one: my parents have a slew of 45 singles from back in the day. I remember some were James Brown, and occasionally a 45 would have "Part I" of a song on it. I was listening to a BBC documentary about the history of recorded music, where the commentator remarked that most songs are in the 3-4 minute range because that's as much that would fit on a 45... And then I was listening to the Jackson 5's "I Am Love Pt 1 & 2" and realized the song was 7 plus minutes long - too long to fit on one side of a 45, hence why there was two parts to it. I've been puzzling over this for most of my life and just figured it out... I'm 37. |
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Actually, there _is_ a connotation in 'Brown Eyed'. Brown Eyed Girl, Brown Eyed Handsome Man?
They're black. |
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That might be a connotation in the American south, but hardly in '50s or '60s Belfast.
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Well not strictly speaking, since AUDI is just an acronym for Auto Union Deutsche Industrie.
So your AUDI is an indirect descendent of those silver Auto Union racing cars so beloved of Hitler in the 1930's... |
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What a thread. Mine is from Star Trek as well. The episode "Doomsday Machine". Saw the show many, many times during the syndication run and a few since. I'd also seen "The Caine Mutiny" any number of times as well. But I never made the connection between the ball-bearing thing that Queeg did with the fiddling with the "floppy disks" that Decker did until fairly recently.
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Wikipedia also goes on the say that the Audi name faded from use for some time, but came back rather surreptitiously when Auto Union tried to preserve some of their independence and history after being bought by Volkswagen. |
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