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That's exactly why I mentioned Guinan. Although their relationship was never articulated, Picard did lean heavily on Guinan for advice and emotional support. He trusted her word even more at times than he did Troi's. And of course, he sought her advice on the Borg, since Guinan's civilization was destroyed and her people were scattered through space by them.
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Maybe there could be a Picard/Guinan/Twain reunion.
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Guinan is supposed to be immortal, or near as much so as to make no difference. I haven't seen Whoopi lately - does she look the same she did 25 years ago?
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Guinan is supposed to be immortal, or near as much so as to make no difference. I haven't seen Whoopi lately - does she look the same she did 25 years ago?
Not right now she doesn't.
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She dyed her hair for a role. Here's how she looked back in July of this year.

https://static.spin.com/files/2019/0...00-828x552.jpg

There's no reason to believe she couldn't be made up to look like Guinan again. After all, Brent Spiner wanted Data to die, because "androids don't age, but actors do," yet he's agreed to play Data once again.

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She dyed her hair for a role.
If only it had made that clear in the article that I linked. Oh, wait, it did.
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If only it had made that clear in the article that I linked. Oh, wait, it did.
And I'm making it clear if she can look one way for one role, she can look differently for another role.

Sheesh.
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Guinan is supposed to be immortal, or near as much so as to make no difference. I haven't seen Whoopi lately - does she look the same she did 25 years ago?
She's not immortal; El-Aurians live for several hundred years though. So she definitely could still be hanging around, tending bar on some Orion garbage scow somewhere.
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And I'm making it clear if she can look one way for one role, she can look differently for another role.

Sheesh.
And I was observing what she looks like right now at this very moment, not making a claim that "she has aged to the point of being grey and can never modify her appearance again," assuming that anyone who clicked the link would be capable of comprehending that it was a look for a role by the process of reading the words in the article.

Sheesh.

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Yours is a valid observation as long as people click the link. Not everybody will. I was making the observation for those who don't click links.
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There's no reason to believe she couldn't be made up to look like Guinan again. After all, Brent Spiner wanted Data to die, because "androids don't age, but actors do," yet he's agreed to play Data once again.
Makeup, shmakeup. I'll go out on a limb here and guess that CGI can nowadays work wonders in eliminating signs of age.
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Sy Fy Wire article. Everything we know so far.

It helped me better understand how these events may tie together.

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Over the past few weeks, thanks to SDCC and Star Trek: Las Vegas (the largest annual Star Trek convention), we’ve learned more about what this show will look like and who Jean-Luc Picard has become in the years since the last Star Trek movie, Nemesis. Here’s a rundown of everything we know (and a few things we think we know) about the series Star Trek: Picard, which is set to premiere on CBS All Access in the US sometime in 2020

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Sy Fy Wire article. Everything we know so far.

It helped me better understand how these events may tie together.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.syf...k-picard%3famp


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And here it be.
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Watched it. It has my interest. We shall see.
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Patrick Stewart asks Whoopi to appear in Star Trek. She said yes! Guinan will be back for a guest role.
https://nerdist.com/article/patrick-...r-trek-picard/

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Now they just need to invite Gates McFadden to return.
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I have reservations about mystery box arcs (They serve the mystery and are gimmicky) and short series (The actors are just props with no time for character evolution)

BUTTTTTTTT....with established characters my distaste is less and this looks interesting
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So i caught the first episode and all you folks who don't like Discovery are probably going to be ambivalent about this one. Frackin toasters running around
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I liked it, Iím willing to see where it goes.
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So i caught the first episode and all you folks who don't like Discovery are probably going to be ambivalent about this one. Frackin toasters running around
I'm not a big fan of Discovery but I like Picard so far.
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Saw it. Enjoyed it. Good to see Brent Spiner around, even though we saw about that much in the trailer. New storyline looks interesting.
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I enjoyed it.

Not sure what's going on with the ending scene tho'.
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Now they just need to invite Gates McFadden to return.
I've seen video of her on Comicon Panels with the cast. She seems close with everyone.

I can easily see her returning for a limited role. Maybe a couple episodes?
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I've seen video of her on Comicon Panels with the cast. She seems close with everyone.

I can easily see her returning for a limited role. Maybe a couple episodes?
In the STTNG episode, "All Good Things," Q showed Picard a possible future in which Beverly was in command of a Starfleet medical ship. (Yes, I realize Q was manipulating events. And let's not have Q return. He should stay away. He could be bothering Janeway instead.) That could be a good way to reintroduce her.

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So i caught the first episode and all you folks who don't like Discovery are probably going to be ambivalent about this one. Frackin toasters running around
It's only one toaster now, isn't it? Unless I missed something. I kept turning the sound up and down.

I like Discovery and I like this! I can't wait to see Seven. She looks like a complete badass in the season preview at the end.
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"Toaster" was the slur used in the remake of Battlestar Galactica for the humanoid cylons. So it refers to realistic androids.
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I'm surprised there isn't more discussion of this here. I thought it was great---Picard immediately felt right, still the moral center trying to do what's right; I had been a little afraid they'd make him jaded, burnt out by his experiences and trying not to get involved, but he's immediately on the ball. I'm fine with reneging on the Federation's utopia, that sort of thing just doesn't really work anymore, but I'm glad to see they seem to want to keep true to Picard's character. Although I'm not too sure about the reliance on the plot device of things coming to him in a dream; that could get old quick.

So am I right to think that this is the continuation of the timeline we left with the destruction of Romulus' sun, which led to the Kelvin-timeline?

Anyway, it might just be nostalgia clouding my judgment, but I thought this was a much better beginning than Discovery. I hope it holds up!
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I enjoyed it.

Not sure what's going on with the ending scene tho'.
My guess is that the Borg now have a way to look like any race they want. Makes infiltration easier. They probably have a piece of Data's posotronic whatever plot device (Borg Queen took it during ST: First Contact) so they can have human-like emotions.

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My guess is that the Borg now have a way to look like any race they want. Makes infiltration easier. They probably have a piece of Data's posotronic whatever plot device (Borg Queen took it during ST: First Contact) so they can have human-like emotions.
Since when have the Borg been about subtlety? I think it's more likely to be a Romulan attempt to control Borg tech--the ships were distinctly Romulan. It'll go up in (probably literal) flames, of course.
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So is the only way to watch this to subscribe to CBS All Access? Seems like it from what I can tell. I'm loathe to pay even more for TV at this point - I already pay for cable, Netflix, Hulu, etc etc.
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So Jean Luc **did** make Admiral.
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So Jean Luc **did** make Admiral.
Even Picard had to break eventually.
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So is the only way to watch this to subscribe to CBS All Access? Seems like it from what I can tell. I'm loathe to pay even more for TV at this point - I already pay for cable, Netflix, Hulu, etc etc.
You could wait a bit to rent it. A bit to rent.
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It's on Amazon Prime here. Suck it, Yanks!

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So is the only way to watch this to subscribe to CBS All Access? Seems like it from what I can tell. I'm loathe to pay even more for TV at this point - I already pay for cable, Netflix, Hulu, etc etc.
Wait until the series is complete, then get a 7 (or 30?) day trial thru amazon or elsewhere.

I have mine thru Amazon - and it comes in handy for other shows as well.
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So Jean Luc **did** make Admiral.
So he ignored Jim Kirk's advice.
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Same here. Itís not on PrimeVideo in the US?
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Not for me it's not. I have Amazon Prime, it wants me to subscribe to CBS on demand to watch Picard.
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Easter Eggs for ep 1. The writers put in a lot of little details for fans of TNG

Obviously there are spoilers.
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It's on regular cable here in Canada. (CTV SciFi, who also carry Discovery.)
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It's on regular cable here in Canada. (CTV SciFi, who also carry Discovery.)


And Crave, it seems.
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It's on regular cable here in Canada. (CTV SciFi, who also carry Discovery.)
I see on my SciFi broadcast that the channel is in free preview (Shaw Cable, Calgary). I'm not sure if SciFi is in my package of channels and the free preview could go away before the end of Picard's run. If you're watching on SciFi you might want to check that out.

I do have Crave, so I'm set for the whole run.
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