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Old 11-25-2019, 03:47 PM
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Regarding "flash-forwards" do we even know if Kate is still alive when baby Jack is an adult? I can't remember seeing her, and Toby seems to be alone.
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Old 11-25-2019, 03:52 PM
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Did we see any of the regular cast in the same scenes as adult baby Jack? I didn't think so. There was a flash forward, at Kevin's fancy house, but I don't remember seeing baby Jack there.

To answer your question directly, though, no we don't see Kate and adult baby Jack in the same scene.
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So Randall's about to be mugged? I had to rewind because I was half watching the end assuming he was just going to go sit and watch the sun rise.

I usually like Miguel but he was being a jerk. He gets a bit of a pass because he was lashing out from fear, but he was still a jerk.

That whole date storyline was super cute but man, that was a rough ending. Almost slow-cooker rough.

Do we believe Toby's "I turned away from the kiss"?
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Old 01-19-2020, 04:19 AM
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So Randall's about to be mugged? I had to rewind because I was half watching the end assuming he was just going to go sit and watch the sun rise.
I got the impression that he's hallucinating seeing Jack
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Old 01-19-2020, 04:37 PM
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I thought it was a home invader. Or, he's having another breakdown and hallucinating.

I think Miguel was justified. He's always been the outside to the Big 3 and here comes Randall coming in once again to Save The Day. Now, I can see Randall seeing a bigger change because he doesn't live with Rebecca, so he probably saw things Miguel missed because Miguel is with Becca on a daily basis. And Randall could have dialed it back, by giving Miguel a list of specialists to call. But that's not Randall, as we've seen. It's a wonder the doctor didn't report Randall for stalking (Really? 47 emails?)

And speaking of coming on strong, what was up with Kevin? I know he set a deadline for himself to get married and have a baby by the time he's 40, but swooping in on some girl and whisking her off to a private John Legend concert seemed over the top, even for him. And I didn't call it a hall pass, but (from Friends) it's called The List.

I am not sure Kate and Toby are going to last. They should be getting therapy to help them pull together for their special needs child. Kate went all Mama Bear and I think Toby feels like he got left in the dust.
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Old 01-19-2020, 04:42 PM
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And speaking of coming on strong, what was up with Kevin? I know he set a deadline for himself to get married and have a baby by the time he's 40, but swooping in on some girl and whisking her off to a private John Legend concert seemed over the top, even for him. And I didn't call it a hall pass, but (from Friends) it's called The List.
Hall pass is also used in some circles; it was the title of a movie with Owen Wilson and Jason Sudeikis.

But I agree that the guy was a home invader, not a hallucination.
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I'm biased because Toby is my favorite, but I think Kate is being a little too hard on him. It's fine that she's mad that he didn't want to go to the retreat and he was being jerky about it, but being mad at him in general for having trouble accepting the baby's issues is unfair. I mean, he needs to suck it up and deal (which he did at the end of the episode) but it's ok for him to have FEELINGS and acknowledge that he needs to work through them. He's not going to abandon his family. He's having a little bit of a "oh wow this is a big deal" moment. Strong people can't be strong all the time. He'll do the right thing in the end. Give him some breathing room.

And I don't like how the last two episodes made it look like there was a genuine emergency for past-Kate when it's clearly just a (correct) gut feeling on Mandy Moore's part. WE know Kate's in trouble with that loser but from THEIR perspective, it's kind of over the top to drag Randal out of school and go drive to get her when there's nothing but a weird phone call to indicate there's a problem.

All the jumping to conclusions everyone was doing all episode was making me dizzy.
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I feel like this show is nothing but misleads and exaggerations lately. To be honest I've just kind of skipped through the past few shows to get the basics. I caught the latest one today and it just annoyed me. I cannot stand Kate now. I hate seeing her face. I hate how she said "Tooby". That's what I hear anyway. I loathe teen Kate with her weird and constant sneer. Her character has never progressed beyond sad fat woman with sad fat woman issues. And I see no strength. Her mom calls her strong but really, all she does is whine and worry and say "tooby" a lot.
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A couple of weeks ago, the episode was about how Randall was handling the aftermath of the home invader. He installed a security system and obsessively monitored it (to the point that he was distracted while hosting a public meeting). Did anyone else think it was weird that the alarm code was his parents' anniversary?
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Did anyone else think it was weird that the alarm code was his parents' anniversary?
Weird for you and me? Yes

Weird for this co-dependent mess of a family? No.

I mean, I wasn't technically around for my parents' wedding, although I assume I was a visible baby bump, so I don't know the exact date they got married. I have a vague idea. Some people do know but I think it's ok if you're kind of like "Oh, first week of June."

I think I only remember a vague date (they've been divorced for decades) because I did the baby bump math and I was like "Hey, wait a second! That was right before I was born!"
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So what did we learn from the last episode? We learned that at some point in the future Kevin builds a house on the land where the cabin sits. And that he definitely slept with Kate's best friend, but that might have been revealed last week and I just skipped past it. And Kate once had a really awful boyfriend. Which we kinda already knew.

Anything else?
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We learned Randall is losing his gd mind even more than we thought.
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Unfortunately, we learned that Kevin and Randall did NOT actually beat the living shit out of douchebag Marc
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Toby seemed to be bonding with his son in the episode, so perhaps he and Kate stay together in the future? Hard to tell with this show, given its love of misdirection.
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Was hoping to see older Mark working in that record store, Kevin recognizing him, and scaring him away with a look.
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I don't enjoy these episodes and I'm starting to actually dread pushing play the next morning. I might be out after this season.
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Does anyone know why they were so coy about who Randall's therapist was? Except for one brief shot at the end of the episode, we only saw her from behind. Was it someone we were supposed to recognize?
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The therapist was played by Pamela Adlon, who has been on a couple of series. As for not showing who it was, perhaps that was to keep emphasis on Randall.
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That hissing was driving ME crazy!
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Really, just leave the pot on the burner.
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Well well well. Some mysteries solved. Some questions answered this week.
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Is the show trying to make me hate Randall? On purpose? I might be done. I'm not satisfied when I watch it and I think it's going to get more ridiculous rather than stay the course. I liked it as a distraction but now it's making me mad and being as annoying as the things I'm trying to be distracted from.
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Yes all I could think at the end was "Wow who knew Randall was such a horrible person?" I mean I knew he was a know-it-all Type A control freak for a while but irrational grudge was absolutely clownish over-the-top. I have felt unsatisfied and slightly angry since last season already. I usually just kind of skim through the whole show in about 10 minutes these days.
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I'm getting tired of the "let's throw in some random characters and make you guess how they fit in, and we'll throw in some red herrings while we're at it" plot device. I thought the horse training scene was completely unnecessary. I get that it was a setup for Madison's OB-GYN's speech, but I'm not sure the setup was really needed.

And yeah, they've made Toby and Randall, my two favorite characters, come off as tools this season. Not happy about that...
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