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Got a text this morning that we're working from home tomorrow, so I now have a second computer set up at my desk. Strangely enough, no one has seen fit to get the workplace listed on the "closed" list hosted by the local news channel, and no emails have been sent out about this.
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One of my wife's sisters is on end-of-life support at the moment. One of the woman's daughters (who is a critical care nurse) has been visiting her regularly in Colorado (from Minneapolis) over the past couple of years as she has slowly declined. The other daughter wanted nothing to do with her (issues from childhood and adulthood with her bi-polar mother). Now the nurse daughter can't fly out to see her at the end, as her presence is required at her hospital, and flying is too much exposure to COVID. The other daughter is an airline pilot and has her own plane, so she has flown out to stay to the end. My wife, who, while also having had long issues with this sister, is nevertheless a forgiving and caring person, would like to say final goodbyes even though the woman is basically comatose. Plane travel is, of course, out of the question, and it's unlikely she would be allowed inside the facility anyway. It's weighing heavily on her.
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Old 03-22-2020, 06:36 PM
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One of my wife's sisters is on end-of-life support at the moment. One of the woman's daughters (who is a critical care nurse) has been visiting her regularly in Colorado (from Minneapolis) over the past couple of years as she has slowly declined. The other daughter wanted nothing to do with her (issues from childhood and adulthood with her bi-polar mother). Now the nurse daughter can't fly out to see her at the end, as her presence is required at her hospital, and flying is too much exposure to COVID. The other daughter is an airline pilot and has her own plane, so she has flown out to stay to the end. My wife, who, while also having had long issues with this sister, is nevertheless a forgiving and caring person, would like to say final goodbyes even though the woman is basically comatose. Plane travel is, of course, out of the question, and it's unlikely she would be allowed inside the facility anyway. It's weighing heavily on her.
I'm so sorry, Chefguy. That is a heartbreaking situation.
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Not as bad as some, but my employment at the hotel has been suspended for an indefinite time - 13 April at the earliest. Same for everyone but management - and probably some of those as well.
*sigh* Well, I've been an advocate for distancing and lockdown, so I'm (mostly) good with it, and slightly amused as well.

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Old 03-22-2020, 09:37 PM
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Last night the King proclaimed a curfew. Nobody out & about from 19.00 to 06.00. The mess hall is feeding me in clamshell foam plates and I am eating on a picnic table outside. Emirates, a very large airline is shutting down for three weeks.


I am supposed to fly out on a final-exit visa on 30 March. Fat chance. I will be here with no job and no way out for some unknown period.
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Old 03-23-2020, 07:46 PM
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Yesterday she got the word that the hospital was canceling all elective surgery. Including hers.

Now we've got to wait for who knows how many months before they're free enough from COVID-19 patients to do this again. I'm guessing we're looking at early next year.

Three more days. That's all we needed.

Dammit.
A friend was scheduled for a mastectomy last week due to early stage breast cancer.

She was **in the parking garage** when they called to cancel: not because of COVID19, but because her doctor had injured herself that morning and was unable to operate. "

She has no clue when it'll get rescheduled. Hopefully things like **cancer** will still be handled.

I was just chatting with an acquaintance and had a DUH! moment: she has a 3 year old with special needs (autism). With schools being completely cancelled here in Virginia.... not only is mom stuck home with 3 kids (2 of the 3 have issues) with no respite whatsoever, their services are likely stopped in their tracks. That's a pretty big impact right there.
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Greetings from Laughlin NV


Just moved into an RV park on the grounds on a hotel and casino in Laughlin NV. All casinos shut down by the state until Apr 17. All the casino signs are working but parking lots are empty and hotel windows are dark. Not much traffic, there is little business other than the casinos. Most of the restaurants are in the casinos, so very few places to eat. We are here to visit relatives, no other reason to be here.
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Old 03-24-2020, 01:08 AM
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The college where I teach was originally going to cancel all classes only on Mar. 18 and 19 so the faculty could--get this--go to the computer labs on campus for Canvas workshops in case they wanted to learn more about how to use it for the impending remote instruction.

The higher-ups wised up and the msg came down at 6pm on Mar. 16, telling everyone that all classes are canceled from Mar. 17 to Mar. 28 to give faculty time to restructure things, get used to Canvas, give students and faculty a chance to regroup, etc. Some faculty will need loaner laptops. Some students will need better tech at home too, since phones don't always cut it. And, you know, other complications abound. Remote instruction (classes resume but not in person) as of Mar. 29, so far.

We were told in my dept. not to make anything due until after Mar. 28. That's fine. I need time to figure out how I can get students and myself through this; cannot make them pay to watch films I was going to show in class so now have to find free films via the college library collections; doing faculty meetings via Zoom; and I also took on a third class for which I had already been subbing since the professor/friend of mine has been in and out of the hospital, and sometimes incoherent, due to blacking out after driving over a bump and then getting in a wreck, waking up bruised all over and half her head shaved because they had to do a craniotomy to deal with a brain bleed. She is not supposed to do any kind of work for a while, certainly not remote teaching.

My housemate/cousin, meanwhile, is on the warpath: I went out shopping last Friday and was made to wear a N95 mask which her nursing mgr. mom let us have (we disinfected it for re-use; we have more but she had to give them back to her mom because medical folks need them far more than we do), plus gloves, carry hand sanitizer, and when I got back home, had to take off jacket and pants and shirt and throw them into the dryer on high and then go take a shower while cuz sprayed the car with Lysol as well as my purse and all the grocery items and the bags.

I still go for walks while staying a good distance away from my neighbor /walking partner.

I am just dismayed by some family members who think it's all much ado about very little, especially the anti-vaxxing, homeschooling niece who fancies herself an expert on the whole thing. She texted to the family group thread: "Their math doesn't add up because they aren't doing accurate base infection numbers."

What dafuq does that MEAN?

She also says she is concerned about grandma because flu shots increase the risk of contracting coronaviruses. (What gran actually got was a pneumonia shot, but you know, vaxes are vaxes and they are all evil to the aforementioned niece.)

One of her cousins posts that the whole thing is no big deal, just like any other old virus, Vicks Vaporub works on viruses like kryptonite and he will be just fine because he grew up drinking water from a garden hose and playing in the dirt.


Work is the least of my worries, I suppose. At home I feel like Meryl Streep in Silkwood, running the risk of having to scrub until I'm raw if I make the mistake of bringing anything into the house without disinfecting it first. In terms of the fam, the ones I just mentioned are filling my gut with anxiety. I swear I had an attack of akathisia today.

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Old 03-24-2020, 01:32 AM
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Really not too badly compared to some people. My HOA closed the gym and pool the day after I mentioned to my wife how grateful I was to have them handy, as up until then I was working out much more consistently than I had been in years. Now I might have to take up running...grrr!...Maybe after the mornings get a little warmer, I will.

More painful is the fact that my online library app somehow logged me out of the library, and now I can't log back in. My PIN gets rejected though I don't remember ever changing it from the default, which would be the last four digits of my phone number. And now the libraries are closed.




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Old 03-24-2020, 02:52 AM
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Old 03-24-2020, 03:10 AM
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New Zealand is going to Level-4 tomorrow night for four weeks - only essential shops open, essential workers at work, everyone else has to stay at home. Schools are closed (upcoming school holidays have been brought forward by two weeks), and travel restrictions are in place.

I will continue to work remotely, so I went to work today and grabbed two monitors from my desk so I now have a full desk setup which makes my wife a whole lot happier - she thought I was too hunched up and squinting. It'll probably help my neck, as well.

We are in for an interesting time ...
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Victoria and NSW are about to go into lockdown tomorrow night - nearly all the other Australian states are closing state borders (except to goods trucks)

That pratt Morrison is trying to engage in a dick-waving contest with the State premiers about whether kids go to school after Easter or not (our Term 1 just finished a few days early and the States generally want to keep them shut for Term 2). Oh, and also keeps contradicting the smarter more knowledgeable people about how much physical isolation people should be doing, generally in the 'eh, go ahead, you'll be fine' direction

I have dozens of juicy ripe figs on the tree in the backyard that I can't ethically give away to anyone...
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Old 03-24-2020, 06:28 AM
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Learned yesterday that my workplace is not actually closed; only my department (and the people involved in the exposure incident) are working from home. We've now run into the issue of how to digitally sign documents; there's no official procedure in place for this.
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Took a dog to the vet last night. They came out to meet us in the parking lot, and actually wound up treating the dog on the sidewalk. (He'd eaten part of a football and was having trouble passing it, so they "helped" him. Could've done that at home).


I'm still at work (placing orders for a lab that tests the virus). I'm willing now to stay home but I just don't know how I can do my job without access to office machines. And placing orders is not the only thing I do.


Son's girlfriend out of work. I suppose it's only a matter of time until all the kids are asking for help with the bills.
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My girlfriend is quarantined. I'll probably be furloughed before too long.
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Old 03-24-2020, 07:50 AM
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Son's girlfriend out of work. I suppose it's only a matter of time until all the kids are asking for help with the bills.
My daughter is a nurse, working in a very busy hospital. My son is a corrections officer in a Florida prison on lockdown with presumed cases in the facility.

I wish my kids were out of work and asking for help.
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Old 03-24-2020, 11:14 AM
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Why on earth not? If your neighborhood has a Facebook group or other way of communicating electronically, there's no reason you couldn't post "got free figs, lemme know if you want them", then put a bagful of them outside your front door.

I had an appointment with my primary care doc - routine followup, nothing urgent - for April 2. I also needed all my prescriptions refilled. I messaged them yesterday saying "hey, heard you were rescheduling all routine stuff, need my drugz". Hopefully they will get the scrips sorted out; I actually have enough for a month but I have to use a mail-order pharmacy and since deliveries are being slowed down on other things, I'd like some wiggle room.

They rescheduled my appointment for April 30, then a little while later called me to say they were going to do virtual appointments, so they're emailing me a link to get that set up. Luckily I have a BP cuff at home and can also do spot checks of blood sugar; can have my phone get pulse and O2 readings, though obviously doc can't listen to my heart or lungs. Well, I'll know if my asthma is flaring.

I'd like to discuss a change in blood pressure meds - there's a Lancet article that sheds some light on why people with hypertension / diabetes may get hit harder. Basically it has to do with being on an ACE inhibitor or an ARB (which is related; I was put on an ARB when the ACE caused severe side effects). Those are often used for hypertension in people with diabetes because they are supposed to help protect the kidneys.
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I worked from home before all this. I went out to lunch nearly every day just to get out of the house for a bit. I don't do that anymore.
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I'm so sorry, Chefguy. That is a heartbreaking situation.
Yeah; her sister died this morning. The daughter who is a nurse browbeat them into doing a test for COVID, as she was exhibiting all the symptoms. Why they didn't do that voluntarily is a mystery. The other daughter will self-quarantine until the results are back. At least her mother didn't die alone.
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They don't have a way to reset that online? Bummer.
They do, but they say my card number isn't associated with any of my email accounts. That's almost certainly true; I don't remember for sure that I ever gave them one, or if I did I peobably had to write it into a form, and of course with my chicken scratch handwriting they entered it wrong. Not their fault of course.

But none of that explains why none of the handful of PINs I use works.

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Old 03-24-2020, 12:36 PM
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Yeah; her sister died this morning. The daughter who is a nurse browbeat them into doing a test for COVID, as she was exhibiting all the symptoms. Why they didn't do that voluntarily is a mystery. The other daughter will self-quarantine until the results are back. At least her mother didn't die alone.
Oh no. I am so sorry to hear that.
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Old 03-24-2020, 01:15 PM
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Oh no. I am so sorry to hear that.
It's a real mortality moment when your siblings and close kin start dying off. I went through it with my siblings a few years ago, but this is her first.
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It's a real mortality moment when your siblings and close kin start dying off. I went through it with my siblings a few years ago, but this is her first.
There are more and more of those "mortality moments" as we go along. The first ones can definitely be a shock.
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Old 03-24-2020, 01:59 PM
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They're finally getting me set up to work from home. They're also shutting the whole office down almost completely. Both things are difficult due to the generally primitive systems here. I deal with physical paper paperwork and lots of it. I'm being asked to bring home a printer and a bunch of paper and envelopes.

We'll see how it goes. My wife is already working from home and has commandeered the desk.

Nobody I know personally has tested positive. I haven't heard any of our clients getting sick yet. (I work for a government aging care agency.) It's only a matter of time, I think.
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My office has suddenly been deemed an essential business, so half of my department (me included) will be headed back to work tomorrow to start working staggered shifts -- 5 days in the office, then 5 days working remotely. I'll have to drag my desktop computer back and forth because there aren't nearly enough laptops to go around. I do have a somewhat decent monitor at home, so I won't have to drag that part at least, but unless someone at work can come up with an appropriate cable I'll have to settle with using a VGA connection (really not that bad on this particular monitor, until you set it next to an iMac).
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My state, Vermont, was just put on lockdown although Iíve more or less been on voluntary lockdown anyway for the past week and a half.
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Vanderbilt University Library is having almost all staff work from home, now. I haven't been in the office since Thursday, March 19. I just got an internet connection at home today, and tomorrow I will begin working on the laptop that they provided for me. We'll see how this goes......
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Old 03-24-2020, 06:25 PM
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My direct report told me today that his wife might have it and is waiting test results, she is a physical therapist in a nursing home. Now he’s worried and taking care of the baby.
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I'm working from home so I'm in my old office surrounded by all the creature comforts of home. It's nice to take a nap during lunch which helps with back pain. I filled my car up at $149/gallon 2 days ago and it's now $1.29.

I've been through severe unemployment before so I have some idea of what people are going through. I worked all manner of crappy jobs to get by. But in this case there are few crappy jobs to scramble to. The computerized unemployment system in my state has imploded. People are waiting days to get set up.

I've been crunching the numbers and it is much worse than originally thought. They were expecting a doubling every 6 days and it looks more like every 3 days. that would be a million dead by the end of April in the US. New York now rivals Iran in deaths per million.

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I'm working from home so I'm in my old office surrounded by all the creature comforts of home. It's nice to take a nap during lunch which helps with back pain. I filled my car up at $149/gallon 2 days ago and it's now $1.29.

I've been through severe unemployment before so I have some idea of what people are going through. I worked all manner of crappy jobs to get by. But in this case there are few crappy jobs to scramble to. The computerized unemployment system in my state has imploded. People are waiting days to get set up.

I've been crunching the numbers and it is much worse than originally thought. They were expecting a doubling every 6 days and it looks more like every 3 days. that would be a million dead by the end of April in the US. New York now rivals Iran in deaths per million.
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My dialysis clinic has been enacting stringent measures, such as pre-screening clients before they enter the building, requiring masks at all times, and prohibiting visitors. Today, they issued us letters of travel. They give us permission to travel to and from dialysis if the city gets shut down, which it hasn't so far.
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My MIL's residence is on quarantine. Some residents went out a few weeks ago and intersected someone (outside the facility) who has died of COVID-19.
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Might lose my student job soon. I work part-time for the school's recycling and surplus department. The facility where we sort recyclables is usually filled with about 40 carts' worth of cans and bottles, with another dozen or so coming in everyday. After today's shift there were only 7 left, with no new carts coming in. With the student body more-or-less banned from campus and a minimum of faculty present, there are virtually no bottles or cans coming in anymore. The next sorting shift will empty out the building and there will be nothing left to do.
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Old 03-25-2020, 09:48 PM
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Unemployment Insurance applied for today, won't take effect until last of PTO is done. What with last paychecks, savings, tax return, possible stimulus check, am in okay financial shape into summer.

Finally worked out how to use a webcam with Facebook Messenger so I can see as well as talk to relatives, helps diminish feelings of isolation.
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Well, after a week of agonizing over it, I finally decided to take the unpaid leave offered by my employer. It turns out it may not be eligible for unemployment insurance, after all, which sucks, but I have sufficient emergency savings to go me a while if I need to dip into it, and if this isn't an emergency, I don't know what is. We went the longest time with no confirmed cases in my county, and now we have two.

I care for my parents, and they are both in the at risk category due to age and other health problems. Two relatives have been essentially told to self quarantine (along with their entire apartment complex) because they may have been in contact with someone who was in contact with an infected person. Having this affect people that I know personally has made it feel all that much more real. Both of the confirmed cases in my county worked in jobs that involved a lot of contact with the general public. So, because of all that, I told my workplace that I would not be back after the end of this week. It's to the point where I feel a lot of anxiety even about going in tomorrow for the last day. I think everyone feels a sense of impending doom about the whole situation, and we're all powerless to do anything about it.

I'll feel better once I know I can just stay home, which is what we all need to do as much as we can.
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I had a big scare this afternoon when I was on my way into a shopping area. When the guard checked my temperature with his digital IR thermometer, the thing started beeping. Turns out that it was not an alarm for high temperature. The alarm was to alert the user that the battery was too low.
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Old 03-27-2020, 07:56 AM
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So far I'm in pretty good shape. I already worked from home one or two days a week, so moving to fill time at home was just a matter of not going into the office. At some point i assume my employer's revenue will drop enough that it starts wanting to lay off staff, but I'm sure we have at least several months. But there's a lot of infected people around here, and I'm worried about catching it.

Also, my social life has been blown up. I used to go out square dancing at least once a week, sometimes a lot more. We're obviously not doing that. My neighborhood bridge group has moved on line, but dancing on line doesn't really cut it. Doing a lot of Google Hangouts.
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Yesterday the weather finally cleared and it warmed up into the 70's in Kansas City. People were out in the parks enjoying themselves in the sunshine.

And guess what? Here come the cops to tell people not to do it. LINK
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They've modified the work schedule yet again because someone decided there were too many engineers in the building...I'm now working from home six days, then going back into the office for three, then working from home six days again. Did I mention that my company doesn't have nearly enough laptops to go around? That means I have to haul my entire work computer -- a small tower and two monitors -- back and forth. I think there's something wrong with the cable linking the two monitors; I had a lot of trouble getting the dual display setup to work properly this morning. There is a way to log in remotely, but this involves the use of Windows Remote Desktop, which is super sluggish compared to logging directly into the server.

On the plus side, most people at work have jumped on board with digital signatures, and a surprising amount of our paperwork has suddenly gone digital (for people in the office, too).
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There is a way to log in remotely, but this involves the use of Windows Remote Desktop, which is super sluggish compared to logging directly into the server.

The IT department for my school in Beijing established a VPN so everyone could log into the school's server directly using our school account credentials from wherever we happen to be. Your company cannot do that?

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We in the postal service of course still working but a busybody in mid level management had to justify her job so she went in to the break areas, already small, and took out chairs and rearranged tables so now only 3 of us out of a department of around 30 can use it at a time.

All this in a job which requires us to work in tight quarters bumping into each other and handling mail from all over which they still maintain is safe to handle.
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The IT department for my school in Beijing established a VPN so everyone could log into the school's server directly using our school account credentials from wherever we happen to be. Your company cannot do that?
Mine does the same. It's working pretty well.
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The IT department for my school in Beijing established a VPN so everyone could log into the school's server directly using our school account credentials from wherever we happen to be. Your company cannot do that?
My company's typical setup involves leaving your work computer on, then logging into that computer remotely from another computer (either a work-issued laptop or a personal computer) using the VPN and Remote Desktop combination.
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Everyone is so depressed about self isolation that they are depressing me as well
Also, my university administration and professors here in Germany are idiots and I hate them so much because they don't even introduce online courses. They also cancelled all the exams and won't conduct something like online oral exam etc. so our graduation will be delayed like 7-8 months or 1 year or more.
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^That sucks. I am a high school teacher and I feel really bad for our students that are missing out on so much right now. Not just academics, but all the extracurricular activities that they love, and things like senior prom and maybe a delayed graduation ceremony. A lot of our students don't have the best home lives, and school has often been a more stable, safe place for them, during the day at least.

We just got word today that we will be out until at least April 17. We are doing online lessons, but we (teachers and administrators) are figuring all this out on the fly, and we've got a lot left to sort out.
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Iím hoping you missed a decimal point. If not, youíre not a good price shopper.
I made up for it on the next purchase but I had to buy a lot of gas.
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Everyone is so depressed about self isolation that they are depressing me as well
This would have been harder 30 years ago. But with the advent of cell phones and computers the lines of communication are considerably shorter. I suspect people are reaching out more to their friends and family because of it.
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^That sucks. I am a high school teacher and I feel really bad for our students that are missing out on so much right now. Not just academics, but all the extracurricular activities that they love, and things like senior prom and maybe a delayed graduation ceremony. A lot of our students don't have the best home lives, and school has often been a more stable, safe place for them, during the day at least.

We just got word today that we will be out until at least April 17. We are doing online lessons, but we (teachers and administrators) are figuring all this out on the fly, and we've got a lot left to sort out.
There was a news story Wednesday evening about teachers on the other side of town forming up a parade and driving through their district's neighborhood waving and with signs of encouragement on their autos. Thursday afternoon we had the same thing happen in our neighborhood. Don't know if they copied the previous day's story or it just took them longer to pull the trigger but either way I hope it becomes a weekly happening.
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There was a news story Wednesday evening about teachers on the other side of town forming up a parade and driving through their district's neighborhood waving and with signs of encouragement on their autos. Thursday afternoon we had the same thing happen in our neighborhood. Don't know if they copied the previous day's story or it just took them longer to pull the trigger but either way I hope it becomes a weekly happening.
You hope that people leave the safety of their homes to circulate in the public on a frequent basis? Do you have the slightest idea of how stupid and irresponsible that is?
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I think you may have missed the part where they stay in their cars, not "circulate in the public." Not stupid or irresponsible unless you're worried that they'll get into an auto accident.
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