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Old 11-13-2019, 11:17 PM
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Moreover, one imagines that the unanimous ruling in US v. Nixon establishes an overwhelming precedent when it comes to executive privilege.
One would think.
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Old 11-14-2019, 12:05 AM
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Smapti, you are being surplussed.
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Old 11-14-2019, 12:23 AM
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Took the quiz. Got 6/10!
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Look, I know more about surplussed than anyone who's lived. And in terms of artificial and the cyber, I've been getting many calls from the biggest names, they've been saying "Sir, there isn't anything artificial can do to replace President Trump". Because nobody knows anything about what this is, you have to be Albert Einstein to understand it, so I said, "We're not doing artificial, we're going to do Donald Trump", and the Fake Trump won't tell you this, but we're going to be showing you our plan very soon that's much better than digital and artificial, and I think you're going to be tremendously surprised by the great things it's going to do for our country.

(9/10 on the quiz, BTW.)

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Old 11-14-2019, 01:06 AM
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Absolutely disgusting that the Democrats set an impeachment trap for the president by just sitting and waiting for him to commit a completely unnecessary crime.

(not sure who that is)
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Old 11-14-2019, 02:54 AM
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And one of the idiot trump-loving vets of my aquaintance says I'm "intellectually dishonest" because I'm not, like he is, bitching about the House not following federal court rules of evidence.

Take a wild guess what that tells me about trumpeters.
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Old 11-14-2019, 03:38 AM
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8/10 on the quiz.
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Old 11-14-2019, 05:00 AM
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Took the quiz. Got 6/10!
Same.

But I disagree with the headline.

This does not make me concerned that AI text generation is getting too good...it's making me concerned that the President of the United States is such an incoherent, rambling speaker, he can be successfully replicated by an AI text generator.
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Old 11-14-2019, 07:57 AM
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I got 7 out of 10 on the quiz. They all sounded like they could be him because the AI has a problem with shifting topics abruptly, just as he does. I tried to key in on these topic shifts. But if I wasn't taking the quiz? I would have accepted every one of them as being straight from the horse's ass's mouth.
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Old 11-14-2019, 10:14 AM
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10/10. The AI is good, but there's still something about it. You can always tell the difference.

It helps if in your head you imagine Trump's ugly, stupid voice saying it.
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Old 11-14-2019, 10:58 AM
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Same.

But I disagree with the headline.

This does not make me concerned that AI text generation is getting too good...it's making me concerned that the President of the United States is such an incoherent, rambling speaker, he can be successfully replicated by an AI text generator.
The article does acknowledge that interpretation:

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So, what’s going on here? Has AI really gotten *that* good at generating realistic text, or does Trump speak in such unintelligible gibberish that he’s extremely easy to mimic?

The truth is likely a little bit of both....
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Old 11-14-2019, 11:05 AM
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I only got 6/10 on the test. BUT — Nitpick alert! — one should get a 6.53 score (on average) even knowing nothing about Trump or the bot!

IIUC, we're told in advance that exactly 5 of the ten paragraphs were written by the bot, and told who wrote each paragraph after guessing but before presenting the next paragraph.

In that case, a simple strategy — counting and guessing whichever residue is more populous — will guarantee a score of 5 and an average score (coin-tossing when Trump and bot are equally populous) of 6.53.
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Old 11-14-2019, 11:37 AM
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10/10. The AI is good, but there's still something about it. You can always tell the difference.
I got 8/10. For me, the way to tell the difference is that the AI is more literate than Trump. It seemed to have a larger vocabulary, and it has a greater tendency to use complete sentences than the President of the United States.
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Old 11-14-2019, 12:33 PM
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5/10. I started well, but lost it. (I missed the "cheat" about 50%, I went right to the quiz. I guess I should read the instructions first!)

In my defense, I never listen to or read anything trump says if I can avoid it.
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Old 11-14-2019, 12:52 PM
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I got 8/10. For me, the way to tell the difference is that the AI is more literate than Trump. It seemed to have a larger vocabulary, and it has a greater tendency to use complete sentences than the President of the United States.
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Doubtful, considering the bot was presumably fed Trumpisms exclusively. I agree with earlier posters that my primary clue/decisive factor were the more abrupt, non-sequitur topic changes ; and even then I only got 7/10 (although I did miss the 5/5 rule).

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Old 11-14-2019, 01:49 PM
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It's not so much a matter of "a larger vocabulary" as that the chunks are less repetitious than Trump. When Trump latches onto a specific word he uses it till it surrenders unconditionally. So, if he starts talking about something "enormous" he'll say "enormous" and "enormously" six times in 5-7 sentences, but he won't say "big" or "large"; if he hooks up with "large", then we get "large" and "largest" but not "big" or "enormous". The IT varied more within a single paragraph.

9/10
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Old 11-14-2019, 03:51 PM
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I got 8 out of 10. I recognized a couple of them so they were ringers. What disturbs me though is the ones I got wrong; on those I'd said, "there's no way he's that moronic," and chose AI. Wrong both times. Christ what an embarrassment this guy is.
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Old 11-14-2019, 06:37 PM
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Dotard wants 500% more money from South Korea.
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Old 11-14-2019, 06:40 PM
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Is another bogus "investigation" announcement involved?

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Old 11-14-2019, 06:50 PM
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(BOT)- In breaking news, South Korea has announced that an investigation has been launched into the hadicapped reporter that Trump psycho-childishly mocked during the campaign.
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Old 11-14-2019, 08:36 PM
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Is another bogus "investigation" announcement involved?
Maybe from NORTH Korea... Kim says yes to investigating Bidens, Turd extorts South Korea for protection. Would not surprise even a nun.
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Hm, who'd'a thunk venerable Stephen Miller is, oh, perhaps a fucking nazi?
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Or should I temper that to 'white supremacist scumbag'?
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I love this story for its infinite potential:

Rudy Giuliani says Trump will stay loyal to him but jokes that he has 'insurance'

You have it completely backwards Rudy. Loyalty to Trump is required. Any suggestion of disloyalty and Trump will keep arguing with you and trashing your name until long after you die, see John McCain for example.

Loyalty from Trump? Who ever heard of such a ridiculous thing?! But you do you Rudy. Remind Trump that he owes you something. I'm sure it'll be fine.
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This year, Trump raised the asking price from approximately $1 billion to $5 billion before being convinced by officials at the State Department and Pentagon to winnow that down to $4.7 billion, according to a congressional aide and the administration official.
GAH!

A $4B increase to a $1B price tag is a 400% increase, not a 500% increase.

I hate seeing innumeracy from people who should know better.

Also, fuck the America-hating fuckstick and his goddamned shakedowns.


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Old 11-15-2019, 09:05 AM
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A little compassion and understanding for the mathtard community would be appreciated.
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Old 11-15-2019, 09:32 AM
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A little compassion and understanding for the mathtard community would be appreciated.
*womp, womp* Sorry, this administration prefers people who don't have disabilities. Or require compassion.

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Old 11-15-2019, 09:55 AM
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Come on, it says 400% right in the article.
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Old 11-15-2019, 11:59 AM
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This does not make me concerned that AI text generation is getting too good...it's making me concerned that the President of the United States is such an incoherent, rambling speaker, he can be successfully replicated by an AI text generator.
Hell, even ELIZA could outdo Trump.
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Does anyone happen to remember where I left my garden rake?
(Bill Oakley, a former writer for “The Simpsons,”) invoked a line from the episode “Sideshow Bob Roberts,” which he co-wrote with Josh Weinstein, in which the title character complains that he should not be in prison for attempted murder, rhetorically asking, “Do they give a Nobel Prize for attempted chemistry?”
So now we can accuse the Republicans of plagiarism for what is now being called the “Sideshow Bob Defense”.
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Old 11-15-2019, 12:24 PM
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Roger Stone just got convicted about lying about Wikileaks--and Trump's knowledge about that.
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Old 11-15-2019, 12:25 PM
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Did you see that the scum in the White House (inaccurately)attacked the former Ukraine ambassador via tweet during her testimony, and Schiff wisely brought it into the hearing? I was moved by the exchange. Hopefully more people will see this as witness intimidation (not to mention bullying a woman).

(Apologies to all the harmless scum out there, covering parts of ponds).

As BobLibDem put it: “Fucker can't help himself. Intimidate and insult a witness while she's on the stand. He's all class, except for the C and the L.”
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Did you see that the scum in the White House (inaccurately)attacked the former Ukraine ambassador via tweet during her testimony, and Schiff wisely brought it into the hearing? I was moved by the exchange. Hopefully more people will see this as witness intimidation (not to mention bullying a woman).

(Apologies to all the harmless scum out there, covering parts of ponds).

As BobLibDem put it: “Fucker can't help himself. Intimidate and insult a witness while she's on the stand. He's all class, except for the C and the L.”
The guy has a military and nuclear weapons at his disposal, and his fans will protest he's not intimidating witnesses.
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Roger Stone just got convicted about lying about Wikileaks--and Trump's knowledge about that.
You know, I hate prison rape jokes. I hate that they're acceptable, I hate that so many people seem to treat prison rape as not only some kind of natural and unavoidable fact of life but an integral, justified, almost commendable even aspect of incarceration. It's callous, it's trite, it's banally cruel, it's very much not funny, and it doesn't even have the redeeming aspect of being original.

But.

But.

But this is just *too* good a setup to miss goddammit. The spirit is willing, but the spirit is weak.

One lucky American is finally going to be able to hatefuck Nixon face to face.


I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry

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да, конечно
Everyone in Washington knows who it is, by the way. The whistleblower is no great secret. Everybody knows who the whistleblower is, and [it] has to be revealed.



BTW, Kobal2, the correct word is “ratfuck”
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Trump just pardoned the guy that was turned in by his squad mates for murdering children.
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Old 11-15-2019, 10:53 PM
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You know, I hate prison rape jokes. I hate that they're acceptable, I hate that so many people seem to treat prison rape as not only some kind of natural and unavoidable fact of life but an integral, justified, almost commendable even aspect of incarceration. It's callous, it's trite, it's banally cruel, it's very much not funny, and it doesn't even have the redeeming aspect of being original.

But.

But.

But this is just *too* good a setup to miss goddammit. The spirit is willing, but the spirit is weak.

One lucky American is finally going to be able to hatefuck Nixon face to face.


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In the words of The Who (A Quick One):

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One lucky American is finally going to be able to hatefuck Nixon face to face.
The Nixon tattoo on Stone's back could be a useful deterrant in prison, like how Indian villagers wear masks on the back of their head to deter tigers from sneaking up on them from behind.
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I love this story for its infinite potential:

Rudy Giuliani says Trump will stay loyal to him but jokes that he has 'insurance'

You have it completely backwards Rudy. Loyalty to Trump is required. Any suggestion of disloyalty and Trump will keep arguing with you and trashing your name until long after you die, see John McCain for example.

Loyalty from Trump? Who ever heard of such a ridiculous thing?! But you do you Rudy. Remind Trump that he owes you something. I'm sure it'll be fine.
Why don't people call it what it is -- fealty?
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Trump just pardoned the guy that was turned in by his squad mates for murdering children.
Were they white children?



Sorry. After a while it's hard to absorb the shocks to the system that he puts out every day. This is disturbing, if not surprising, news.
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Why don't people call it what it is -- fealty?
Nah. Fealty is predicated on mutual benefit, simplifiedly "you obey me, I protect you from evil/famine/poverty". Trump is into a more unilateral principle : "You obey me, or I'll do my utmost to fuck you up forever". One has or can have merit (when sincere), the other is strictly predatory. And if the latter can be used as a reinforcement or reminder of the former, Trump has never really been into the former at all. At best, his pitch to his "friends" is "stick with me and you can run your own grifts", not "and you can share the profits of mine".
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Does anyone else get a feeling that Russian intelligence may be deliberately feeding Giuliani and Barr with conspiracy theory stuff?

Giuliani <> Manafort/Ukrainian sources <> Russia
Barr <> Mifsud <> Russia
Rachel Maddow piece about how the conspiracy theory that it was Ukraine meddling in the 2016 election, rather than Russia, originated with Putin and Russian intelligence.

Putin/Russia will also surely have electronically eavesdropped recordings of Sondland's phone calls with Trump from Ukraine - which he chose to make from his cellphone rather than a secure embassy phone - and therefore have evidence of impeachable offense(s) by the U.S. president. That's some kompromat right there.
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And one of the idiot trump-loving vets of my aquaintance says I'm "intellectually dishonest" because I'm not, like he is, bitching about the House not following federal court rules of evidence.

Take a wild guess what that tells me about trumpeters.
Tells you they're all fucking stupid?
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You know, I hate prison rape jokes. I hate that they're acceptable, I hate that so many people seem to treat prison rape as not only some kind of natural and unavoidable fact of life but an integral, justified, almost commendable even aspect of incarceration. It's callous, it's trite, it's banally cruel, it's very much not funny, and it doesn't even have the redeeming aspect of being original.

But.

But.

But this is just *too* good a setup to miss goddammit. The spirit is willing, but the spirit is weak.

One lucky American is finally going to be able to hatefuck Nixon face to face.


I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry
Doesn't bother me. To hell with him.

What does bother me is, he'll either not get as many DECADES as he deserves, or Barr and Trump will move him to a "country club" and/or pardon him.
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Tells you they're all fucking stupid?

And they do not understand the constitution.
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Today, the Biggest Loser, who you may recall has the best genes and is the healthiest president ever, showed up unannounced at Walter Reed for "portions" of his physical, which is scheduled for February.

Gotta make sure he can keep up his breakneck pace of yelling at the TV and playing golf, after all.
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Today, the Biggest Loser, who you may recall has the best genes and is the healthiest president ever, showed up unannounced at Walter Reed for "portions" of his physical, which is scheduled for February.

Gotta make sure he can keep up his breakneck pace of yelling at the TV and playing golf, after all.
I sure hope his thumbs get a thorough check-up! It's very important that they remain in tip-top shape, or our gummint will grind to a halt! (Would that really be so bad?)

I'm looking forward to reading Dr. Feelgood's report on the soon-to-be Former President's state of mind health.
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I sure hope his thumbs get a thorough check-up! It's very important that they remain in tip-top shape, or our gummint will grind to a halt! (Would that really be so bad?)

I'm looking forward to reading Dr. Feelgood's report on the soon-to-be Former President's state of mind health.
Is that hippie still in charge of his health? This is why I hope for an emergency situation, so we get a real report for once.
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Old 11-16-2019, 06:52 PM
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Is that hippie still in charge of his health? This is why I hope for an emergency situation, so we get a real report for once.
I don't know if he is, but he gives such good reports I'm guessing DJT will keep him on the leash retainer.
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I sure hope his thumbs get a thorough check-up!
I would not want to be the medic tasked with pulling them out of where he keeps them and wiping them down, but thank goodness for gloves.
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