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Old 05-31-2019, 11:04 AM
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"Fulsom Prison Blues" by Johnny Cash.

I shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die.
*Folsom.

And I'm more offended by people who cover the song but tweak the lyrics. I won't even give individual credit, but there are a few covers that use "They say I shot a man in Reno; but that was just a lie". Don't like the song? Well, don't cover it.
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Murder ballads? They've been around for centuries, about someone who needed killin', or was killed. Off the top of my head, 'Delia's Gone', 'Daemon Lover', 'The Knoxville Girl', 'The Long Black Veil', and 'Mack the Knife'
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Their lyrics are clearly workin'. Don't know how you hear "singin'" in that.

My research says different.
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Take This Job and Shove It, Johnny Paycheck. Charted #1

Everyone gets frustrated with their job. Expressing that venom in a song is over the top. Especially with violence at the workplace a modern reality.
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My research says different.
Seriously?

When someone says "who you gonna believe, me or your lyin' eyes?" I never thought anyone actually believed their own eyes (or in this case, ears) were lying.
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Take This Job and Shove It, Johnny Paycheck. Charted #1

Everyone gets frustrated with their job. Expressing that venom in a song is over the top. Especially with violence at the workplace a modern reality.
Threatening to quit a job is a far cry from threatening violence. The closest he comes to the latter is in the lines,
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You better not try to stand in my way
'Cause I'm walkin' out the door
I just don't see this as being in bad taste at all.
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The word in Rum and Coca Cola is clearly "workin'", not "singin'".

BTW, the song was the subject of a copyright lawsuit. Morey Amsterdam had claimed copyright in the U.S., but the song was originally written by Lionel Belasco and the calypso singer Lord Invader (real name Rupert Westmore Grant). The original was even more clearly about prostitution. You can hear it here.
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I absolutely adore Afternoon Delight. I love the harmonies and my childhood self loved to sing this wonderful song about eating candy in the sunshine. What? You mean it's NOT about eating candy in the daytime? Well, my 9 year old self does not believe you.
My then-12 y.o. wife thought it was a fun song about fireworks. Who doesn’t like fireworks?

I, too, don’t get the hate for “Afternoon Delight”. Good harmonies, nice beat, and cheerful lyrics that to me are not in bad taste at all; it’s obvious the narrators are singing the praises of happy, joyful, consensual sex.

Fun little trivia fact - Starland Vocal Band had a short-lived musical variety show. For the presenter and emcee, they chose an up and coming young comedian named....

David Letterman.
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The Andrews Sisters sang "workin" on their hit recording. The lyrics to the original song by Lord Invader is "workin". They modified lyrics that Morey Amsterdam (yes, that Morey Amsterdam!) plagiarized are "workin".

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There appears to be a version recorded by Hot Chip that changed the lyrics to "singing" but I can't find a recording of it and it's clearly not the original lyrics.

https://www.lyricsbox.com/hot-chip-f...s-g5mx87m.html

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My then-12 y.o. wife ...
Which reminds me, no Jerry Lee Lewis contenders?
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You have a lot of general misogyny of course in your 60's and 70's hits (You're Having MY Baby, Treat her like a Lady, anything by the Eagles), and your various odes to 16 or 17 year olds which were more acceptable back then vs. now, but wouldn't call those bad taste. Some may point to Ram Jam's Black Betty, but that was of course not an original but a remake of a Leadbelly tune, plus the song lyrics mention race, but aren't racist per se.

#92 peak position is way out of the guidelines, but the fact that "I want my Baby Back" by Jimmy Cross could chart at all, especially in the early 1960's, when it is about a guy so broken up about his girlfriend's death he digs up her coffin and joins her, should earn special mention!
"I Want My Baby Back" was a quite clever, if a bit over the top, parody of the dead-lover-tear-jerker genre that was popular at the time. It made fun of hits like "Tell Laura I Lover Her, "Where Can My Baby Be"(the original, not Pear Jam's cover), and "Leader of the Pack". I am glad to find out that it actually charted. I got introduced to it through Doctor Demento.
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It may be somewhat obscure at this point, but in 1972 the Fort Worth Texas group Bloodrock had the top-40 hit "D.O.A." It describes the grizzly aftermath of a plane crash in sickening detail as told from the perspective of a dying man. On the strength of that single, its source album, Bloodrock 2, went gold. Pity they could not continue their success. They were a good group and they made several albums worth hearing.
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My Sharona by The Knack hit #1 for 6 weeks.

I always get it up
For the touch
Of the younger kind


Ew...
If you dislike that one, your certain to not like "Baby Talks Dirty" from the same album.
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Take This Job and Shove It, Johnny Paycheck. Charted #1

Everyone gets frustrated with their job. Expressing that venom in a song is over the top. Especially with violence at the workplace a modern reality.
Was far less a reality 38 years ago when the song came out though.

And in reading the full lyrics the only things he threatens to do is quit the job.

But I suspect this post was meant as a joke.

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How is that date rape? That's a date, a seduction.
Because according to some, with truly twisted standards, if persuasion is employed than the woman is being manipulated and is not truly consenting.
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Run For Your Life-The Beatles.
"Norwegian Wood" is more subtle, but almost as sinister.
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"I Want My Baby Back" was a quite clever, if a bit over the top, parody of the dead-lover-tear-jerker genre that was popular at the time. It made fun of hits like "Tell Laura I Lover Her, "Where Can My Baby Be"(the original, not Pear Jam's cover), and "Leader of the Pack". I am glad to find out that it actually charted. I got introduced to it through Doctor Demento.
Of course, I meant Pearl Jam. God I hate auto-correct!
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There are plenty of songs about killing, or wanting to kill, unfaithful lovers... Criminal, yes, by modern standards, but I wouldn't say it's in "bad taste" if it's a theme as old as mankind. Especially if you include operas!
Yep, that one's so common it doesn't even register for me. And across genres. "Two Black Cadillacs" being a more recent country example. But I could probably name 10 without having to look too hard.
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The Andrews Sisters sang "workin" on their hit recording. The lyrics to the original song by Lord Invader is "workin". They modified lyrics that Morey Amsterdam (yes, that Morey Amsterdam!) plagiarized are "workin".

Andrews Sisters version
Lord Invader version

There appears to be a version recorded by Hot Chip that changed the lyrics to "singing" but I can't find a recording of it and it's clearly not the original lyrics.

https://www.lyricsbox.com/hot-chip-f...s-g5mx87m.html

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I checked again, and Google sez :

https://www.google.com/search?q=Rum+...hrome&ie=UTF-8
f you ever go to Trinidad
They make you feel so very glad
Calypso sing and make up rhyme
Guarantee you one good real fine time
Drinkin' Rum and Coca Cola
Go down "Point Koo mah nah"
Both mother and daughter singin' for the Yankee dollar


But yes, I checked others and listened to a better recording and workin seems to be more common.

However, so what?

Does 'working" imply sex work? In the 1940s? I doubt that.

How about in this song:Come, my little friends
As we all sing a happy little working song
Merry little voices clear and strong
Come and roll your sleeves up so that we can pitch in


Or
It's been a hard day's night, and I've been working like a dog
It's been a hard day's night, I should be sleeping like a log
But when I get home to you I'll find the things that you do
Will make me feel alright



Or
Workin' 9 to 5, what a way to make a livin'
Barely gettin' by, it's all takin' and no givin'
They just use your mind and they never give you credit
It's enough to drive you crazy if you let it


or Workin' for a livin'
(Workin')
Workin' for a livin'
(Workin')
Workin' for a livin', livin' and workin'
I'm taking what they're giving 'cause I'm workin' for a livin'


or
Workin' in the coal mine
Goin' down, down, down
Workin' in a coal mine
Oops, about to slip down


I mean if all of those are about sex work, it does put a completely different spin on many songs.....
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Just FYI, NOT to be pedantic, the song's actual title is "Last Kiss"
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MTV refused to air it. Night Flight did.
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Does 'working" imply sex work? In the 1940s? I doubt that.
Here is a complete transcription of the lyrics. It includes the verse,

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Out on Manzanella Beach
G.I. romance with native peach
All night long, make tropic love
Next day, sit in hot sun and cool off
That's not about working in an office or a coal mine.
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Here is a complete transcription of the lyrics. It includes the verse,



That's not about working in an office or a coal mine.
Sure, and? What's your point? That in a song there's a verse about making love?
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I always thought I Touch Myself (#1 in Australia, #4 in US) by the Divinyls was pretty tasteless.

She Bop by Cyndi Lauper covered the same topic, but was a little more subdued.
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Timber by Pitbull (featuring Kesha) was #1 on Billboard for three weeks.

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One more shot, another round
End of the night, it's going down

Let's make a night, you won't remember
I'll be the one, you won't forget
Sounds like date rape to me, whether from alcohol, Ketamine, or Rohypnol.
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The old-timey classic “Little Sadie” could be called a murder ballad, I guess, but the protagonist doesn’t seem to have ANY rationale for the killing...he just guns her down cold.

Went out one night to make a little round
I met little Sadie and I shot her down
Went back home, jumped into bed
.44 smokeless under my head...
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Timber by Pitbull (featuring Kesha) was #1 on Billboard for three weeks.



Sounds like date rape to me, whether from alcohol, Ketamine, or Rohypnol.
Yeah, but IIRC it's Ke$ha singing those lines. I think he does too, but it's her voicing those lyrics at the beginning of the song.
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Sure, and? What's your point? That in a song there's a verse about making love?
No, there's no question by anyone involved what the song is about. Here are the some of the original lyrics sung by Lord Invader:

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And when the Yankees first went to Trinidad
Some of the young girls were more than glad
They said that the Yankees treat them nice
And they give them a better price

Ah, look, I had a little chick the other day
But her mother came and took her away
Herself, her mother and her sisters
Went in a cab with some soldiers
Literally, the only lyrics online for the Morey Amsterdam version that uses "singing" is the one Google links to, and that appears to the version by Hot Chip. I have no idea why Google returns that link but it's not the lyrics as written.
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Because they're breaking down the door to take him away (and that would be the death penalty)?
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The lyrics to Vehicle by Ides of March are pretty skeevy, especially at the beginning:

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I'm a friendly stranger in the black Sedan
Won't you hop inside my car?
I got pictures, got candy
I'm a lovable man
And I can take you to the nearest star
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Hot Child in the CIty by Nick Gilder -glorifying child prostitution. Gilder even admits he was writing it from the POV of a lecher.
It's a darn catchy song. But I generally feel gross after listening to it. )-:
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i don't know the exact name of it but there was a garth brooks song that was sung sort of tongue in cheek where dad was a trucker and mamma was always lonely so she developed wandering eye

dad came home a couple of days early and caught her fooling around and drove the rig through the house... the tag line was "mammas in the graveyard papas in the pen"
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just a pov but wasn't most of dr dementos stuff considered tasteless at best and utter shit at worst ? like" dead puppies arent much fun"...... and i thought "hot child in the city" was sung by a girl .......
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Take This Job and Shove It, Johnny Paycheck. Charted #1

Everyone gets frustrated with their job. Expressing that venom in a song is over the top. Especially with violence at the workplace a modern reality.
but that was in the what the late 70s? no one was shooting up their job sites every week like we seem to be now .........
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"Wrong Way" by Sublime:

Annie's twelve years old in two more she'll be a whore
Nobody ever told her it's the wrong way
Don't be afraid with the quickness you get laid
For your family'll get paid
It's the wrong way

I gave her all that I had to give
I'm gonna make it hard to live
Salty tears running down to her chin
And the ruins up her makeup I never wanna live

A cigarette pressed between her lips
But I'm staring at her tits
It's the wrong way
Strong if I can but I am only a man
So I take her to the can
It's the wrong way

The only family that she's ever had
Is the seven horny brothers and a drunk-ass dad
He needed money so he put her on the street
Everything was going fine till the day she met me
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...... and i thought "hot child in the city" was sung by a girl .......
Nick Gilder is definitely a man. Just has an unusually high voice.
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Dammit - now you've ruined the song for me. The sound of those horns is amazing.....

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This one is such bad taste its funny,

Teen Angel - Mark Dinning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IE-AcC53OYY
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i don't know the exact name of it but there was a garth brooks song that was sung sort of tongue in cheek where dad was a trucker and mamma was always lonely so she developed wandering eye

dad came home a couple of days early and caught her fooling around and drove the rig through the house... the tag line was "mammas in the graveyard papas in the pen"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papa_Loved_Mama

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As for glorification of murder, "Hey Joe" (#6 for Jimi Hendrix) has probably been recorded by more people than any other such song. Joe is going out to shoot his old lady and the main singer/narrator doesn't seem to have any problem with it.

Interesting to see all the commentary about "Rum and Coca-Cola". Those interested in the legal battle over plagiarism of the song should read the relevant portion of Louis Nizer's "My Life In Court" in which he ties a defense expert into knots and provides interesting sidelights on calypso.

I fondly remember a radio show I co-hosted in college called the "Bad Taste Special" in which we aired every recording we could think of that would offend people (I handled the rock/pop playlist; my cohort did jazz and blues). One memorable song from the show was Senator Bobby's "Wild Thing", a rendition by an R.F.K. impersonator. Not all that offensive in itself, but not in the best of taste to play it after he'd been assassinated.
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One memorable song from the show was Senator Bobby's "Wild Thing", a rendition by an R.F.K. impersonator. Not all that offensive in itself, but not in the best of taste to play it after he'd been assassinated.
I remember that one--singer wasn't allowed to sing, but was constantly being coached on tone & volume to maximize his appeal. Visionary work, really.
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The lyrics to Vehicle by Ides of March are pretty skeevy, especially at the beginning:
Around the same time, 1970 - The Jaggerz had 'The Rapper' warning a girl about a seemingly nice guy who just wants a 'companion, a girl he can talk to'. Don't be alone with him! We all called that song 'The Raper'.
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With Van Halen's "Jump," which charted #1, David Lee Roth says his lyrics were inspired by news footage of a guy on top of a roof threatening suicide. "Might as well jump!"
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No, there's no question by anyone involved what the song is about. Here are the some of the original lyrics sung by Lord Invader:



Literally, the only lyrics online for the Morey Amsterdam version that uses "singing" is the one Google links to, and that appears to the version by Hot Chip. I have no idea why Google returns that link but it's not the lyrics as written.
So congrats. You have managed to show that this song, with totally different lyrics before it became a hit, had lyrics that were solidly suggestive. I concur, those lyrics are pretty obvious. How does that make the hit version, with different lyrics, sung by a different group- a song with bad taste?
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I remember that one--singer wasn't allowed to sing, but was constantly being coached on tone & volume to maximize his appeal. Visionary work, really.
"...and watch the pronunciation of the word "heart""

"Oh wild thing, you make my, ah, haht sing."

"that's perfect, Senator."

It's been long enough, it's not in bad taste anymore. And it's ok to watch The Manchurian Candidate, too.
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The lyrics to Vehicle by Ides of March are pretty skeevy, especially at the beginning:
Yep, and that was used for a ad campaign also.
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A few months ago, in a bookstore, my kids and I heard a Beach Boys song gleefully looking forward to going to the beach where there'd "have some fun" because there'd be "two girls for every boy". They all literally said out loud, "What the f--?" (They are teenagers and we were doing a college visiting tour.)

I Googled what the song title was. It was... "Surf City", it reached #1 in 1963, and was actually recorded by "Jan and Dean" but written by Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys.
Maybe I'm still naive, but I took the line "two girls for every boy" to mean that it would be a fun place to hang out because as a boy/young man, you would have an excellent chance of picking up a date because of the availability.......not that there were threesomes happening everywhere.
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