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Old 11-05-2019, 08:53 PM
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Can someone please explain this whole chicken sandwich thing?


As a vegetarian, I've been ignoring whatever is going on with this chicken sandwich war or whatever it is. But now I see someone in Maryland has been stabbed to death over it. Could someone kindly explain the whole mess? Why in hell is anyone getting worked up about chicken sandwiches?
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Old 11-05-2019, 08:55 PM
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A lot of people are morons. That about sums it up.
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Old 11-09-2019, 03:38 PM
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A lot of people are morons. That about sums it up.
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Old 11-09-2019, 04:19 PM
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We buy a whole roast CostCo chicken for the price of what? 1 or 2 chicken sandwiches? We tear off and devour the main limbs, leaving slabs of flesh to be sliced off, nuked or fried or sauteed, and used in, y'know, SANDWICHES, or quesadillas or tortas, or kebabs or whatever. Popeye and the Colonel and the fundy jeezoids running Chick-Fill-Lay are irrelevant if one has a few extra minutes. But do what you must when time is short.

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Old 11-05-2019, 09:21 PM
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I haven't tried the sandwich but I can't help but think there's no way I'll be disappointed. I'm going to bite into it and think, "This wasn't worth a human life." Holy cow! What if it tastes that good though?
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I haven't tried the sandwich but I can't help but think there's no way I'll be disappointed. I'm going to bite into it and think, "This wasn't worth a human life." Holy cow! What if it tastes that good though?
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They don't seen anything special to me. They did invent the chicken sandwich, though. (ducking) Anyway, they took them off the menu for some reason and just brought the sandwich back.

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Little help? any links to what you guys are talking about?
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Little help? any links to what you guys are talking about?
The Chicken Sandwich War.
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Old 11-05-2019, 11:59 PM
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The bullet points version:

-Popeye's, a fried chicken chain, introduced a new chicken sandwich in August and started a social-media war with Chik-fil-A, a chain already known for their chicken sandwiches. Soon other fast-food franchises joined the fray.

-The rivalry has political overtones because of anti-same-sex marriage statements by Chik-fil-A's owner and donations to such organizations.

-Popeye's sandwich was so popular it sold out in a few weeks and was discontinued.

-It was recently re-introduced, leading to long lines. On one such line a dispute led to a man being fatally stabbed.

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Someone was stabbed at a Popeye's Chicken place in Maryland, apparently for cutting in line for the new chicken sandwiches. Here.
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Someone was stabbed at a Popeye's Chicken place in Maryland, apparently for cutting in line for the new chicken sandwiches. Here.
Well, maybe he was stabbed for cutting in line in general. That's just rude.
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Well, while a chicken sandwich certainly isn't worth anyone's life, queue-jumping is another matter entirely.
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Old 11-06-2019, 07:16 AM
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As a vegetarian, I've been ignoring whatever is going on with this chicken sandwich war or whatever it is. But now I see someone in Maryland has been stabbed to death over it. Could someone kindly explain the whole mess? Why in hell is anyone getting worked up about chicken sandwiches?
manufactured hype via marketing.
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Old 11-06-2019, 07:29 AM
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What baffles me is, I could have sworn I've eaten chicken sandwiches at Popeye's before.

Thought they were called Po Boy's.

This whole thing feels like a glitch in the matrix to me.
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Old 11-06-2019, 07:39 AM
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What baffles me is, I could have sworn I've eaten chicken sandwiches at Popeye's before.

Thought they were called Po Boy's.

This whole thing feels like a glitch in the matrix to me.
They appear to have discontinued the po'boys in favor of the new sandwich, which is a shame, as I always loved the shrimp po'boy myself. (Not that I could eat it anymore since I'm apparently allergic to shrimp now.)

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Old 11-06-2019, 08:00 AM
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I still haven't tried one, but Popeye's chicken is quite good, and I'm sure this sandwich is, too. If only they'll be able to leave the mayo off of mine. Talk about stabby!
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Old 11-06-2019, 10:49 AM
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What baffles me is, I could have sworn I've eaten chicken sandwiches at Popeye's before.

Thought they were called Po Boy's.
A comparison of Popeye's chicken sandwich and its now-discontinued chicken po'boy.
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Old 11-06-2019, 07:59 AM
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Fried chicken is delicious beyond words, but not eaten that much due to health concerns of frying. People don't typically think of a chicken sandwich as fried chicken, so it avoids the unhealthy stigma of it but has the same taste. The marketing push now is to stir up interest in it. Also the sandwich is a easier to eat form then fried chicken pieces, which also allows toppings.

That's about it.
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Old 11-06-2019, 08:06 AM
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There are a lot of people who despise Chik-Fil-A’s politics but love their chicken sandwiches. Popeye’s somehow picked just the right time and chose the right strategy to introduce an alternative to Chik-Fil-A’s sandwich.

The whole thing blew up unexpectedly and Popeye’s didn’t have enough supply to keep up with demand, and ran out of its ingredients within a few weeks. They’ve now reintroduced the sandwich after a couple of months.

It’s a pretty good fried chicken sandwich, but it’s popularity is the result of cultural coincidences and a good marketing program.
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Old 11-06-2019, 08:26 AM
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I know of a case where someone was stabbed in an argument over a Little Debbie snack cake*, so it's not just chicken sandwiches that provoke violence.

*it seems that most Little Debbie snack cakes are not vegan, but the Little Debbie cake donut is regarded as an exception.
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Old 11-07-2019, 03:33 PM
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I know of a case where someone was stabbed in an argument over a Little Debbie snack cake*, so it's not just chicken sandwiches that provoke violence.

*it seems that most Little Debbie snack cakes are not vegan, but the Little Debbie cake donut is regarded as an exception.
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It’s a pretty good fried chicken sandwich, but it’s popularity is the result of cultural coincidences and a good marketing program.
Yep. I'm still a little baffled as to why chicken sandwiches/chicken tenders (really any boneless fried chicken product) are so popular, but this whole Popeye's thing is really just a combination of good marketing and I'm guessing social media buzz. I mean, they did have TV ads, but they weren't anything too special. I'm guessing someone really liked it, and was in a position to relay that to a lot of people on social media who all agreed and did the same. And so on, and so forth in a chain reaction way.

One final observation- nobody's really getting stabbed over a chicken sandwich; in my experience, it's more about bad behavior and disrespect. Nobody's thinking "I'm going to shank that fool in the liver because he may get a chicken sandwich and I may not." What they're waiting in line for is immaterial- it's the fact that the line-cutter was disrespectful and ill-behaved that likely started the fight, and it escalated to a stabbing because that's how that particular person chose to handle it.
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There are a lot of people who despise Chik-Fil-A’s politics but love their chicken sandwiches. Popeye’s somehow picked just the right time and chose the right strategy to introduce an alternative to Chik-Fil-A’s sandwich.

The whole thing blew up unexpectedly and Popeye’s didn’t have enough supply to keep up with demand, and ran out of its ingredients within a few weeks. They’ve now reintroduced the sandwich after a couple of months.

It’s a pretty good fried chicken sandwich, but it’s popularity is the result of cultural coincidences and a good marketing program.
I'm going to disagree with some of this.

Sure, some folks despise Chik-Fil-A's politics, but a lot? Not even close. A lot of Dopers do, but the general public are fine with the company's stance.

Also, I cannot believe it "blew up unexpectedly". It was actually a masterful marketing ploy. Are we to think the world suddenly had a chicken shortage? That lasted several months?

Disney, McDonalds, and other corporate powerhouses have demonstrated how creating an artificial shortage or manufacturing unavailability makes us humans crave a product well beyond reason.
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I'm going to disagree with some of this.

Sure, some folks despise Chik-Fil-A's politics, but a lot? Not even close. A lot of Dopers do, but the general public are fine with the company's stance.
Agreed. Even though support has grown over recent years, it looks like nearly 1 out of 3 people still disagree with gay marriage: https://www.pewforum.org/fact-sheet/...-gay-marriage/
Even with those who would say they support gay rights, they don’t necessarily care enough about the issue to boycott over it. Most people choose to eat at a restaurant based on if they like the food, not based on the owner’s political views, unless they are especially passionate about the issue.

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The McRib actually is fucking delicious though.
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The McRib actually is fucking delicious though.
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I'm going to disagree with some of this.

Sure, some folks despise Chik-Fil-A's politics, but a lot? Not even close.
Just how precise an amount do you think is described by "a lot?"
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I'm going to disagree with some of this.

Sure, some folks despise Chik-Fil-A's politics, but a lot? Not even close. A lot of Dopers do, but the general public are fine with the company's stance.
Are you actually ascribing a political stance—arguably the stance that has already lost politically, legally, and a majority of the public—related to one of the most controversial issues of our time to the “general public?”


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Also, I cannot believe it "blew up unexpectedly". It was actually a masterful marketing ploy. Are we to think the world suddenly had a chicken shortage? That lasted several months?

Disney, McDonalds, and other corporate powerhouses have demonstrated how creating an artificial shortage or manufacturing unavailability makes us humans crave a product well beyond reason.
Fast food chains are constantly introducing new products. If such success had been so easy to achieve, we would be experiencing a constant rate of junk food rage murders.

Yes, marketers try to achieve success. No, this kind of blockbuster success can’t be planned.
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Also, I cannot believe it "blew up unexpectedly". It was actually a masterful marketing ploy. Are we to think the world suddenly had a chicken shortage? That lasted several months?
I read a business report on this and they did actually mess up. They had what they projected would last 7 weeks. They sold it all in less than 2. It wasn't "several months" (about 2) but if you think about it, the batter has to be Popeye's recipe so there are other supply streams involved. When you think about how many restaurants they have and now they have to basically quadruple the estimated demand that is a lot of chicken and batter to get specially prepared on short notice. I don't know if the chicken comes in pre-battered and frozen or not.

I'd bet there is an analyst that used to work at Popeye's now looking for work. In hindsight it may have worked out well for the company but he/she is really bad at forecasting.

I drive by a Popeye's on my way to and from work and today when I drove by around 2 was the first time the drive thru wasn't backed up into the street. I tried a couple the first time around (both spicy and regular) and I thought they were way better than CFA and Wendy's.
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Also, I cannot believe it "blew up unexpectedly". It was actually a masterful marketing ploy. Are we to think the world suddenly had a chicken shortage? That lasted several months?
What I read in the Wall Street Journal is that there was a supply chain issue in regards to sourcing both the brioche buns they use and the chicken breast (which is apparently from a smaller sized chicken.) They went through what they thought would be three months of product in 14 days. I don't get the sense this was a marketing ploy at all. By all accounts, it actually is a really good chicken sandwich that seems to be loved by consumers and critics alike, as opposed to other "limited time" items like the McRib (which, as we see in this thread, some people love, but I find a really awful fast food item, and I've been influenced into buying it a few times because of the limited availability, only to regret my purchase and only learn after about three years in a row of this.) I don't see any incentive for Popeye's to keep the chicken off the menu for that long, when they could have steadily been making money on it in the two months off the menu.
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Pretty much what I had read. A royal screw up that may have turned out ok for them.

And as far as the McRib goes... I ate one and that will be enough to satisfy me for life. I can say I have tried one.

The sandwich in question... if the line isn't backed up I'll probably get another tomorrow.
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What I read in the Wall Street Journal is that there was a supply chain issue in regards to sourcing both the brioche buns they use and the chicken breast (which is apparently from a smaller sized chicken.) They went through what they thought would be three months of product in 14 days. I don't get the sense this was a marketing ploy at all. By all accounts, it actually is a really good chicken sandwich that seems to be loved by consumers and critics alike, as opposed to other "limited time" items like the McRib (which, as we see in this thread, some people love, but I find a really awful fast food item, and I've been influenced into buying it a few times because of the limited availability, only to regret my purchase and only learn after about three years in a row of this.) I don't see any incentive for Popeye's to keep the chicken off the menu for that long, when they could have steadily been making money on it in the two months off the menu.
yeah, this. factory raised chickens have been bred for ever-increasing breast muscle, just like domestic turkeys. Kenji at Serious Eats did a clone of the Chik-fil-a sandwich and recommended cutting a standard boneless breast into two thinner cutlets since a whole one would be way too damn big for a sandwich.
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I predict the next generation of these wars will feature vegeburgers made of chickweed.
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Never heard of the sandwich. And now it's gone.

I feel cheated, somehow, and yet five minutes ago I'd never even heard of the sandwich.
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Never heard of the sandwich. And now it's gone.

I feel cheated, somehow, and yet five minutes ago I'd never even heard of the sandwich.
It's in the news again now (besides the stabbing) because they just brought it back again.

I've never actually had anything from a Popeye's. I've had the CFA spicy chicken sandwich many times, and love it. Many people seem to think the Popeye's chicken sandwich is way better, so I'll probably check it out soon.
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..I've never actually had anything from a Popeye's. I've had the CFA spicy chicken sandwich many times, and love it. Many people seem to think the Popeye's chicken sandwich is way better, so I'll probably check it out soon.
Just a heads up- from what I've seen, they slather it with mayo.
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Yes--or, IMHO, poor impulse control by the stabber.
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Wendy's homestyle chicken sandwiches are very good and there's no waiting in line.

Their spicy chicken sandwich is similar to Popeyes.

I prefer homestyle.

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Wendy's homestyle chicken sandwiches are very good and there's no waiting in line.

Their spicy chicken sandwich is similar to Popeyes.

I prefer homestyle.
This is what's baffling. Wendy's has sold chicken sandwiches for how long? 32 years at a minimum, and I believe much longer.

Why has the general social-media public pretended like the Popeye's sandwich was the first competitor to Chik-Fil-A in the history of fast food? I understand marketing and alll, but sheesh.

Not to mention Canes, Zaxby's, Lil Abner's, and thousands of local joints.
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This is what's baffling. Wendy's has sold chicken sandwiches for how long? 32 years at a minimum, and I believe much longer.

Why has the general social-media public pretended like the Popeye's sandwich was the first competitor to Chik-Fil-A in the history of fast food? I understand marketing and alll, but sheesh.

Not to mention Canes, Zaxby's, Lil Abner's, and thousands of local joints.
My understanding is that it's because Popeye's is already sorta competing with Chick-Fil-A by being a chicken place. And thus their chicken is supposed to be really good. Other restaurants that don't specialize in making chicken are reportedly* not as good.

Of course, that leaves out the original chicken franchise, KFC. But consensus in the US at least seems to be that it's bargain basement chicken, and doesn't really compete with the other two. I hear it's better in the UK, though, with a lot more options.

*I don't know myself. I haven't been to Popeyes in over a decade now, and I've never eaten at a Chick-Fil-A. I have eaten at KFC, but never thought their chicken sandwiches were anything special, while their stand alone chicken was pretty good, and the biscuits were alone worth the price of the buffet.

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My understanding is that it's because Popeye's is already sorta competing with Chick-Fil-A by being a chicken place. And thus their chicken is supposed to be really good. Other restaurants that don't specialize in making chicken are reportedly* not as good.

Of course, that leaves out the original chicken franchise, KFC. But consensus in the US at least seems to be that it's bargain basement chicken, and doesn't really compete with the other two. I hear it's better in the UK, though, with a lot more options.

*I don't know myself. I haven't been to Popeyes in over a decade now, and I've never eaten at a Chick-Fil-A. I have eaten at KFC, but never thought their chicken sandwiches were anything special, while their stand alone chicken was pretty good, and the biscuits were alone worth the price of the buffet.
Popeye's fried chicken is far better than KFC (there was a thread on this a while back) and Popeye's has dirty rice (which they call Cajun rice to not confuse the goyim) which while not great compared to the real thing is still better than fries.

Never had their po' boys bu I've had real po' boys in New Orleans and Lafayette, so I don't want to. I'll try the chicken sandwich when this settles down.
There was no Chick-Fil-A near me until recently, and I had already decided to boycott it when the place opened. I had stuff there 15 years ago and it was reasonably good. But not worth driving 15 miles for.
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Why has the general social-media public pretended like the Popeye's sandwich was the first competitor to Chik-Fil-A in the history of fast food? I understand marketing and alll, but sheesh.
Not a single person on the planet pretended this.
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The stabber and stabbee had both gone to the parking lot so there is a remote possibility it was self defense. Details are still mightily thin the last I knew of.

Agree though that chicken sandwiches and line jumping are both insufficient cause for physical violence.
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I've always like Wendy's spicy chicken sandwich far better than Chick-Fil-A's for what its worth. However, I find the Popeye's spicy chicken sandwich even better than Wendy's. So it was worth standing in line for like 20 minutes on Monday, but probably not good enough to get stabbed.
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Based on the thread title, I thought people were putting whole chickens in sandwiches.
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Two people with bad manners encountered each other and found an excuse to behave badly. Welcome to the human race. Frankly, I count the line cutter as the worse of the two. Ya gotta not be fucking with people unless you know for sure they are not prepared to use your guts for garters.
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Old 11-06-2019, 08:53 PM
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I've heard of food so good that it makes you wanna slap someone's mama, but food so good you wanna kill someone? That's a new one!

I have heard good things about this sandwich. I may have to try it to see if it's worth the hype.
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