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Aren't there also presumably a lot of people playing who are simply residents of the L.A. area?
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I found an interesting article about jumping around the board vs. going straight from top to bottom of a category. The TL;DR is that they encourage people to do it the "traditional" way, but tell them it's not required. Also, in past cases viewers have gotten annoyed at players who jump around:

https://web.archive.org/web/20141129..._jeopardy.html
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Old 04-28-2019, 10:44 AM
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I remember there was a Jeopardy category that all the clues/correct responses were a de facto puzzle. You really needed to go from top to bottom to get each succeeding response correct as each clue built on to the clue above it.
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Aren't there also presumably a lot of people playing who are simply residents of the L.A. area?
Yes, but LA residents aren't as large a proportion of the players as was true before online testing started.
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That explains why there are so many lawyers, or as I call them, Anna Tourney.
When I qualified in a regional tryout in Ohio in the early Nineties, they warned us that they had 'way too many lawyers and doctors qualify, and liked to bring in people from other professions when possible. Sure enough, I never got the call to be on the show.
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When I qualified in a regional tryout in Ohio in the early Nineties, they warned us that they had 'way too many lawyers and doctors qualify, and liked to bring in people from other professions when possible. Sure enough, I never got the call to be on the show.
Can you get phone calls in your Herkimer Battle Jitney?

When I was living in NYC I qualified in the tryout, but they had too many people from New York. Now that I'm in Ohio I'm too old and forgetful to even try.

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Aren't there also presumably a lot of people playing who are simply residents of the L.A. area?
I figure some, but not all,. of the LA residents are last minute callups for times when an Ohio or whatever contestant can't make it. They can be there in a hurry.
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Well James won again today, but the guy in second place almost got him. That dude won 53999, and Holzhauer had 54017.
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Yeah, although even if the second-place guy had finished Double Jeopardy much further behind but with at least 51% of Holzhauer's total, it would still be the same basic math in Final: he needed to get it right, and Holzhauer to get it wrong (instead they both got it right). So what it really came down to is that he couldn't quite outscore Holzhauer in the earlier rounds, else he'd be the champ now. A definite scare for the Dominator!
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Yes that was entertainingly close!
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That was producers fucking with him putting a daily double in the bottom row, yes? I laughed when it was the first clue selected.

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I would assume that for the sake of fairness a lot of stuff is randomized. They might come up with a few hundred categories for each season and then randomize their ordering during each episode, and the DD locations should be randomized with weighting. You'd want to do that to appear to be avoiding bias (like if a legal category appeared when a lawyer was on the show) saying that it's all up to randomization anyway. But I'm just guessing.
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Old 04-30-2019, 03:59 AM
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Very early in the game, James Holzhauer was in the red at -$1,000 and one other player had +$1,000.

It didn’t last very long, though.
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Both players seemed to realize that the only way to beat James will be to play by his strategy. I hope everyone who plays him from now on gets that.

Is James hamming it up in Final Jeopardy? He was making faces as if he didn't know the answer and then as if he hadn't bet enough to win.

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These latest players are the first ones to see him in action. The first few games they were shell shocked.
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These latest players are the first ones to see him in action. The first few games they were shell shocked.
He has now been on long enough that current players have watched his first shows?
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He has now been on long enough that current players have watched his first shows?
No, these were all taped before. But they taped five episodes a day so if you're on say, an episode that airs Friday, you get to see James play 4 times. The runner-up yesterday said he actually got bumped from Fridays episode, so he got to see James play 5 times before playing him.
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Wait, if you're playing later in the taping day, are you allowed to sit there and watch earlier tapings? Or is this like one of those gameshows where you're in a soundproof booth?
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Wait, if you're playing later in the taping day, are you allowed to sit there and watch earlier tapings? Or is this like one of those gameshows where you're in a soundproof booth?
Not only are you allowed to, you're pretty much required to. Contestants aren't permitted to go anywhere in the studio unaccompanied, so you go where they tell you to go. Contestants have their own section in the studio audience. It's on the far right side of the stands, in front of the contestant podiums.

After you've lost your game, you can stay and continue to watch the rest of the games if you want to. But you can't sit with the contestants anymore, because you're no longer one of them.
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Does it help to see the game being taped?
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Was yesterday's game the first one James did not win in a runaway?

The 53,999 earned by the 2nd place contestant had to be close to a record for someone who didn't win the game.
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Was yesterday's game the first one James did not win in a runaway?

The 53,999 earned by the 2nd place contestant had to be close to a record for someone who didn't win the game.
He had a non-runaway early one (maybe game 2?) but not that close. And this was indeed the record for a runner-up score.
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The 53,999 earned by the 2nd place contestant had to be close to a record for someone who didn't win the game.
According to the Washington Post, it was the highest losing score on Jeopardy ever.
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Considering James's profession, I don't think that's a problem.


But he does occasionally miss a really easy clue that another player quickly gets. It's like his brain momentarily drifts off. This could eventually be his downfall.
Really? He's missed a TOTAL of like 30 questions in 18 games!!! Doesn't seem like a lot of mind drift to me!
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Really? He's missed a TOTAL of like 30 questions in 18 games!!! Doesn't seem like a lot of mind drift to me!
Me neither, but I wonder if he allows opponents to earn a little bit as a humane approach. I think that might be the case, instead of always crushing them all.

Which I think he could easily do. If thatís what heís doing (and thatís a big if), it almost bit him in the ass last night.
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Is Jeopardy legally streamed somewhere? I'd like to watch this guys run from the beginning.

Most cable networks like History, Discovery, Bravo offer the shows online.

Not sure which network owns Jeopardy?

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Me neither, but I wonder if he allows opponents to earn a little bit as a humane approach. I think that might be the case, instead of always crushing them all.
He's earning about $400,000 a day playing. Your "humane approach" increases his risk of losing that opportunity. I'm guessing he is doing everything in his power to maximize his earnings without any particular consideration for how it makes his competitors feel.
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He's earning about $400,000 a day playing. Your "humane approach" increases his risk of losing that opportunity. I'm guessing he is doing everything in his power to maximize his earnings without any particular consideration for how it makes his competitors feel.
As it should be:

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Also, they don't get to keep what they earn. They get $2000 or $1000 dollars.
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Yeah but it might make the contestants feel better, like they were at least somewhat competitive.

But you guys may be right, he's probably doing all he can to get everything right. But there's times when he goes silent for a few answers, when the answers aren't that particularly hard, and that's when the competitors win a little money. Maybe he's resting.

But yeah, I hope he continues to stomp the competition and win overly large daily takings.
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But there's times when he goes silent for a few answers, when the answers aren't that particularly hard, and that's when the competitors win a little money. Maybe he's resting.
It's entirely possible that they just buzzed in before him. He doesn't seem to be an "active" buzzer, like the people you see clicking it 5 times.
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if he really wants to take pity on his opponents, he can write them each a check for a few thousand dollars. While still crushing them in the game, to enable him to afford it.
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According to the Washington Post, it was the highest losing score on Jeopardy ever.
These are the kind of records I'm known for.
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Is Jeopardy legally streamed somewhere? I'd like to watch this guys run from the beginning.

Most cable networks like History, Discovery, Bravo offer the shows online.

Not sure which network owns Jeopardy?
Jeopardy is syndicated, so it's not owned by a network. I watch it on the local NBC affiliate. My daughter watches it on her local ABC affiliate; my son on his local CBS affiliate.

There are some episodes on NetFlix, but nothing very recent. It's supposedly streaming on Hulu, but I don't have a subscription.
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Is Jeopardy legally streamed somewhere? I'd like to watch this guys run from the beginning.

Most cable networks like History, Discovery, Bravo offer the shows online.

Not sure which network owns Jeopardy?
Jeopardy has a YouTube Channel. You might be able to find them there

https://www.youtube.com/user/JEOPARDY
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Anyone remember his first game at all? Was there any sense of something special brewing at that early stage?


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It's entirely possible that they just buzzed in before him. He doesn't seem to be an "active" buzzer, like the people you see clicking it 5 times.

According to one thing I read, if you buzz in too early you are locked out for a few milliseconds, so that active clicking may not be the best play.


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I watch most days, but I think I missed his first game and then saw starting with his second. He already seemed quite dominant.
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mmm
I haven't watched any of this, but here's the stats and story from the first game.
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I haven't watched any of this, but here's the stats and story from the first game.
I wasn't aware of this site. Thanks for posting.

A couple of stats through today for the cyborg:

He has 680 correct answers, and 23 incorrect.

He is 41 for 45 in Daily Doubles, winning a total of $400,325 for those questions.

And he's 18 for 19 in Final Jeopardy. The only one he missed was on April 11, where the clue was 'This inductee into the Video Hall of Fame sold 17 million copies of a videocassette she released in 1982.' His answer was 'Who is Madonna?' The correct
answer was 'Who is Jane Fonda?'
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I was just reading some stuff on 538, which linked to a Jeopardy recap site. I was shocked by the FJ question Jennings messed up on to break his 74-game streak. Federal Express, Ken, really? (It's also interesting to click the "bet suggestions" link and see that the woman who beat him actually should have bet the way they suggest, as it would have ensured she did not actually need to answer correctly to win.)

http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=62
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It’s a morbid thought but has anyone considered that James could still be on his winning streak when Alex is no longer hosting the show?
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You're right. It's a morbid thought.
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I was just reading some stuff on 538, which linked to a Jeopardy recap site. I was shocked by the FJ question Jennings messed up on to break his 74-game streak. Federal Express, Ken, really? (It's also interesting to click the "bet suggestions" link and see that the woman who beat him actually should have bet the way they suggest, as it would have ensured she did not actually need to answer correctly to win.)

http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=62
Oddly enough, I answered the same thing as Ken, only to realize after-the-fact what a dumb answer it was.
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Huh. That seemed like a pretty easy one to me. And I am in no way saying I could go win on Jeopardy. In particular, when I'm watching it drives me nuts how often they reference an actor playing a certain movie role, and I can picture that actor's face, could tell you about that movie, the role, other movies the actor has been in, etc...but cannot get the actual name off the tip of my tongue until it is stated out loud.
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Itís a morbid thought but has anyone considered that James could still be on his winning streak when Alex is no longer hosting the show?
Hell, he could still be on his winning streak when he himself dies of old age.
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Huh. That seemed like a pretty easy one to me. And I am in no way saying I could go win on Jeopardy. In particular, when I'm watching it drives me nuts how often they reference an actor playing a certain movie role, and I can picture that actor's face, could tell you about that movie, the role, other movies the actor has been in, etc...but cannot get the actual name off the tip of my tongue until it is stated out loud.
Right. It's easy to say "I'd clean up that category" when you're in the comfort of your own home...but how easy is it when you're under hot studio lights knowing that everyone you know, including millions of others, is going to be watching you? That even makes me a little more tolerant of some of the ridiculous answers we get on Family Feud.

(FWIW, I have had one Jeopardy audition, but no dice. I think I did pretty well on this year's test...we'll see.)
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