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Old 07-14-2018, 09:30 AM
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Downton Abbey movie coming in 2019


All of the original cast is returning, Julian Fellowes has written the script, and the director of the series' first episode will direct:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.a198c02d13f7

https://people.com/movies/downton-ab...ovie-adaption/
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Old 07-14-2018, 04:42 PM
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Very happy to see this! One of my favorite shows ever.
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Old 07-15-2018, 04:56 PM
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Since we all know how much Julian Fellowes loves to recycle plot points, let me save you all $15.

First Act - Bates is accused of a murder he didn't commit
Second Act- Anna is accused of a murder she didn't commit
Third Act- Edith falls in love with an older man, the family disapproves, it ends in personal tragedy for Edith, the family doesn't really care
Fourth Act- The Crawleys are about to lose the estate
Fifth Act- the estate has been saved!

Liberally interspersed with scenes of

-Scandals that should make the Crawleys social pariahs, yet don't
-blackmail, blackmail, blackmail!
-Branson dithering about how he fits in
-Carson harrumphing
-mentions of poor Mr. Pamuk

and bingo, there's your Downton Abbey: The Motion Picture.
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Can't wait. I miss that show.
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I wonder how they'll handle the switch to Thomas Barrow as head butler, and the retirement of Carson. Rob James-Collier, the actor who portrays Thomas, says he's a bit concerned about being typecast as a "neurotic, dark, gay character".

Would a lady's maid be allowed to continue in her position if she has a child to raise?
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I wonder how they'll handle the switch to Thomas Barrow as head butler, and the retirement of Carson. Rob James-Collier, the actor who portrays Thomas, says he's a bit concerned about being typecast as a "neurotic, dark, gay character".
I would imagine that, between the life lessons he learned from his near-death experience* and the fact that he doesn't need to scheme anymore if he's in charge , he will no longer be neurotic and dark, but still gay. Or his neurosis will be completely new, and he'll echo Carson's neuroses from having to keep everything running.

Like Bates with the forgery, I'm sure the movie will have Mr. Barrow** scheming again but for the good of the family.

*or, more precisely, the support he received.
**Like Branson, he will be promoted to Mr. as butler. Or should be if they're consistent.

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I will watch.
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Awesome

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Theatrical? Or on the BBC?

I'd like to see occasional reunions centering around significant historical events. WWII, ect.
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Theatrical? Or on the BBC?....
Did you even click on the links? Theatrical.
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It's interesting Maggie Smith had protested the idea before by questioning how old the Dowager would be. While I don't think they ever definitively stated it on the actual show, my understanding is script references note Violet as having been born in 1842, and Robert in 1866. So they'd both be 84 and 60, respectively, in 1926 when the show let off.

That even gives them room to "advance it" 3-4 years into the early 1930s if they want and both characters could still plausibly be alive.
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it ends in personal tragedy for Edith, the family doesn't really care
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So... when are tickets going to be available?
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So there's going to be a movie based on the Downton Abbey series which was based on the movie Gosford Park? okaaaayyyyy...
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I wonder how they'll handle the switch to Thomas Barrow as head butler, and the retirement of Carson. Rob James-Collier, the actor who portrays Thomas, says he's a bit concerned about being typecast as a "neurotic, dark, gay character".

Would a lady's maid be allowed to continue in her position if she has a child to raise?
Could Thomas finally get some in the movie? He apparently had an active (& offscreen) sex life until that Duke they were trying to set Mary up with brook things off in the first series. As for Anna; the answer is no. Her being allowed to continue working after marriage is exceptional, her being allowed to work after having a baby (& being allowed to drop her baby off in the nursery like it was a daycare center ) is implausible to the extreme. Anna doesn't even need to work; Bate's wages & rental income combined with living in a grace & favour cottage on a country estate is enough for them to have a very nice life.
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I wonder how they'll handle the switch to Thomas Barrow as head butler, and the retirement of Carson.
Well, the way they left it in the last episode, they don't expect Carson to fully retire. Robert (I think) talks about how Carson can still manage the big parties and keep an eye on things as an elder statesman (whatever that means in butlerworld).

So there're some built-in, but low-hanging, tension opportunities there if that's where they pick up from.
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So there's going to be a movie based on the Downton Abbey series which was based on the movie Gosford Park? okaaaayyyyy...
Downton Abbey wasn't based on Gosford Park. They were both created by Julian Fellowes, and they center around the same topics of an English great house with servants and upstairs/downstairs and all that, but they have nothing story-wise to do with one another.
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I hope, given the budget and attention a theatrical movie is going to get, that they'll rise to the occasion and give Maggie Smith a great death scene as the Dowager Countess. As balance for that, maybe Edith will be pregnant, since Mary was pregnant at series end. Can't imagine they won't use the opportunity for a childbirth scene, preferably one that doesn't end in tragedy. Hopefully Bertie won't go for a drive shortly after Edith delivers.

With Ms. Bunting in the wind, Tom should be firmly hooked up with Ms. Edmonds, leaving the door open for a new character to loudly and crassly advocate for socialist values, to the Crawleys' shock and consternation.
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Maybe Anna would take over the nursery (I seem to remember one of the previous Nursemaids was a monster) that way she could have her own baby there as well, at least while the children were very small.
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Would a lady's maid be allowed to continue in her position if she has a child to raise?
Of course not. Servants didn't marry and stay in service, and any unmarried servant who found herself expecting would find herself sacked on the spot for immorality.
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An aristocratic family also wouldn't retain a servant they knew to be homosexual, but Downton Abbey blew past that inconvenient fact ages ago.
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Also, I get the impression that the Crawleys were way more familiar with the lives of their servants than most aristocrats were.
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Old 07-20-2018, 08:06 AM
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I've been watching too many other British shows and so I keep expecting it to be revealed that Molesley was a serial killer all along. He does a really good job at that.
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Also, I get the impression that the Crawleys were way more familiar with the lives of their servants than most aristocrats were.
Quite right, I don't think the typical upper class were all giant assholish monsters, but I think the vast vast majority observed the expected and strict rules of the employer/servant relationship. The servants weren't family and various violations of social norms of the day wouldn't have been openly tolerated the way they were almost every week on Downton Abbey.

Is it possible some odd upper class Brits of the era were extremely warm/caring to the point they all but included their servants as part of their own family? I'm sure it probably happened, but I think it would have been very much the exception to the rule.

Julian Fellowes didn't want the Crawleys to be the heels of the show so I think he took some artistic license there. The way he portrays many of the other noble families they interact with, and how those families interact with their staff--is almost certainly how you'd normally expect British nobility of the time to treat staff.

There's another forum I post on where I was discussing Downton years ago and one of the posters there had a grandfather who had been a butler serving a wealthy British landowner, from the period of like 1920-mid 1950s. He actually brought up Carlson having palsy at the end of the series because his grandfather actually developed a somewhat similar medical and there was no gracious retirement. When he was unable to work the family that had employed him for decades sent him packing and that was that.
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An aristocratic family also wouldn't retain a servant they knew to be homosexual, but Downton Abbey blew past that inconvenient fact ages ago.
Well, yes. But that also means that the question of appropriate roles for servants goes out the window. If it were real life, Lord Grantham would have the reputation as a homosexual with Irish radical sympathies who employs murderers.
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Here's the house decorated for Christmas, and the teaser trailer for the movie:

https://www.aol.com/article/lifestyl...days/23620418/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYnITeDfaA4
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Liberally interspersed with scenes of

-Scandals that should make the Crawleys social pariahs, yet don't
-blackmail, blackmail, blackmail!
-Branson dithering about how he fits in
-Carson harrumphing
-mentions of poor Mr. Pamuk

and bingo, there's your Downton Abbey: The Motion Picture.
You forgot "Withering looks and utterances of disdain by the Dowager Countess Violet" You can't have Downton Abbey without that.
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Can't imagine they won't use the opportunity for a childbirth scene, preferably one that doesn't end in tragedy. Hopefully Bertie won't go for a drive shortly after Edith delivers.
LOL, good point!
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Servants didn't marry and stay in service
Just dotting the i here: of course I know you specifically meant female servants. A male chauffeur or gardener, say, who married one of the maids would routinely stay on. But the couple would live in one of the estate cottages or some other housing rather than in the dorm-like servants' quarters under the employer's roof. (A married butler-housekeeper couple might both remain in office, and this configuration evolved into the much more common butler-cook couple of the smaller post-Edwardian urban households.)

Also, even a married ex-maid might be re-hired as a non-resident servant on a temporary or part-time basis as the needs of the house required; e.g., for a particular ball or houseparty, or for periodic visits as a laundress or child's nurse.
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An aristocratic family also wouldn't retain a servant they knew to be homosexual, but Downton Abbey blew past that inconvenient fact ages ago.
Meh, the British artistocracy had no issue with homosexuality, as long as it was discreet and not forcing themselves on others, younger people.
It was the middle classes who would have acted on that fashion.
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Yay.
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Yay.
For homosexuality or Downton?
Or a Downton with homosexuality?
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For homosexuality or Downton?
Or a Downton with homosexuality?
Both I suppose. I loved to hate Thomas. I hope he's still at least a little bit of a jerk.

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Here's the new trailer, and the Wiki article on the movie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbV8LpEzYgQ
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downton_Abbey_(film)
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Well, if nothing else, it's certainly going to look gorgeous. The trailer is going full-tilt on nostalgia and warm fuzzies; hopefully the film itself will have a little more grit and drama to it.
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The US trailer is the one I was reacting to; it's different to the Australian one in EH's post. Definitely lighter on plot. Here it is: https://youtu.be/tu3mP0c51hE
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I'd like to see this, for closure and because I loyally watched throughout the series, even when it meandered a bit, but I'm not going into a cinema to do it. Bugger that for a game of soldiers. I honestly don't understand the whole "big screen" thing so many clamour for. What an unnecessary kerfuffle for so little benefit.
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Interesting factoid: Maggie Smith said* she's never watched herself as the Dowager, and didn't give the impression of rating the programme all that much.

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- fascinating (especially for Judi Dench describing her reaction to a particularly patronising nurse).
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Here's the new trailer, and the Wiki article on the movie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbV8LpEzYgQ
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downton_Abbey_(film)
One minute, 43 seconds; Thomas is dancing with another man.
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By the way, as a follow-up to Downton Abbey, in 2015 Julian Fellowes announced plans to make a series for NBC about New York City in the 1880s to be called The Gilded Age. The show is still moving forward but earlier this month it moved to HBO.

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For homosexuality or Downton?
Or a Downton with homosexuality?
Just noticed this got bumped and there was a reply.

Yay there is going to be more Downton. That is all.
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Simon Jones (Arthur Dent) is now King George V?!
That's...hard to picture.
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I thought I knew that voice!
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I think they had another actor play the King when Lady Rose was presented at Court.
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PBS's Downton Abbey Live will air Aug. 18; check local listings:

https://www.pbs.org/video/downton-ab...review-dchnt4/
https://www.willowandthatch.com/down...-2019-special/
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