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Old 06-05-2016, 07:04 AM
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I ate a hot dog with ketchup yesterday


It was brought to me already prepared. I was hungry. I had few options.

Here's the thing: it was a damn tasty dog. Who knew?

I will no longer arch my eyebrows at anyone who professes enjoyment from such a sandwich.

It's not going to be my default, but I acknowledge that I learned something from the experience.


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A real man would have gone hungry.
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Old 06-05-2016, 07:56 AM
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I usually prepare two dogs, one with mustard and one with ketchup, both with grilled onions or additional toppings. I then alternate between the two.

If I had to choose, it'd be ketchup.

I trust, Mean Mr. Mustard, this doesn't signify a new screen name for you.
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I've always eaten my dogs with ketchup. Not that I care what condiment snobs think anyway - it's a HOT DOG. We're not talking prime rib, fercryinoutloud!!!
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I trust, Mean Mr. Mustard, this doesn't signify a new screen name for you.
I suggest Ketchup is the new Mustard.
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Old 06-05-2016, 10:17 AM
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I like them with mustard and ketchup, onions and relish. I don't want to miss out on anything.

Or with mustard and sauerkraut.

My late husband (God bless him) ate hot dogs with mayonnaise. Other than that, he was a great guy.

ETA. Hmmm...shouldn't this be in Cafe Society, as it concerns Fine Dining?

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I don't like it on regular dogs, but, for some reason, it works on a cheese dog for me. Actually, I've been on a Heinz 57 kick lately, so that's what I've most recently been putting on cheese dogs, but similar kind of idea, except tangier. Mustard works, too, on a cheese dog, but maybe the ketchup + cheese thing is just taking me back to my childhood, where my cousin and I would go to the local hot dog stand and order dogs with a slice of American cheese and ketchup on it.

I'll do mayo on a dog sometimes, too, but that's if I'm doing a Sonoran dog or Tijuana/"danger dog" kind of thing. See here for those unfamiliar. I do mine in a flour tortilla, though.

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Old 06-05-2016, 10:23 AM
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Peanut butter on hot dogs is the way to go. :-)
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Old 06-05-2016, 10:37 AM
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I've always maintained that hot dogs and catsup are mutually inclusive. That is, hot dogs are.only edible with catsup and catsup is only edible on a hot dog.
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Old 06-05-2016, 10:39 AM
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I prefer ketchup. Though I really prefer cheese.
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Old 06-05-2016, 10:48 AM
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Burger King (which now sells hot dogs) puts both ketchup and mustard on their dogs, along with chopped onions and relish. It's not bad.
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Old 06-05-2016, 11:22 AM
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Burger King (which now sells hot dogs) puts both ketchup and mustard on their dogs, along with chopped onions and relish. It's not bad.
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I like them with mustard and ketchup, onions and relish. I don't want to miss out on anything.
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Old 06-05-2016, 11:34 AM
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Ketchup + mustard + cooked onion + finely chopped raw onion + slice of very crisp bacon = RobDog.
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Old 06-05-2016, 11:55 AM
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Peanut butter on hot dogs is the way to go. :-)
While not quite the same, I LOVE peanut butter on my breakfast link sausages. I'd never thought of putting it on hot dogs. HMM.
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Old 06-05-2016, 12:07 PM
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Well, did you at least partake joyously of No Hot Dog Buns?
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Old 06-05-2016, 12:08 PM
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I refer you to the classic column by the Perfect Master, in which he explains why ketchup should not be put on a properly assembled hot dog:

Why is there no ketchup on a properly made hot dog?

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...If you go into an authentic hot dog joint and ask for ketchup on your hot dog, the counterman will pause and look you in the eye. He may or may not say, "Ketchup?" with a tone of disbelief. But you may be certain what he's thinking: "Behold this creature that walks like a man. It wants ketchup on its hot dog."

But hey, if you want ketchup, by all means get it.
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Old 06-05-2016, 12:31 PM
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Ketchup is for French fries. Keep your tomatoey mitts away from my hot dog!
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Old 06-05-2016, 12:32 PM
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Ketchup is the ultimate condiment, and goes on everything.

I’m a bit of a hotdog snob*, and I always eat my dogs with everything - ketchup, mustard, relish, sauerkraut, and anything else they have.



*For credentials, I offer: This, where I spent many an hour playing pinball and eating hotdogs when I was in college.
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Old 06-05-2016, 12:38 PM
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Ketchup on a Hot Dog is an Abomination. Period.

Ask Clint Eastwood.
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Old 06-05-2016, 12:41 PM
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My late husband (God bless him) ate hot dogs with mayonnaise. Other than that, he was a great guy.
This is an oft overlooked and underrated condiment choice for hot dogs. One of the things I like about getting a hot dog at Five Guys is that I can get mayo on it without anyone treating me like a freak. To my face.
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Old 06-05-2016, 12:56 PM
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The bit I can't understand: The region of the world where ketchup is considered such an abomination is also the same region where they habitually bury their dogs under so much salad that you can't even find the meat. I mean, I could understand a hot dog purist, who liked them plain, or with only one or two specific condiments. But if you're dumping the entire garden on it, what difference does one more topping make?
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Old 06-05-2016, 12:59 PM
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Chicagoan reporting in, and I am here to state that the entire "no ketchup on hot dogs" taboo is a running joke that got out of hand.

Growing up, I ate at dozens of Chicago hot dog stands, and had ordered hot dogs with just ketchup and mustard, and nobody batted an eye. It wasn't until years later, sometime in the late eighties I think, that this culinary quirk sprang into being.

The now defunct Harry's Hot Dogs on Franklin and Randolph was a Chicago institution for over fifty years, and a hot dog there with everything automatically included ketchup. If you didn't want ketchup, you had to tell them to leave it off. They weren't the only place in town doing that.

If you want ketchup, ask for it.
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Old 06-05-2016, 01:04 PM
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The bit I can't understand: The region of the world where ketchup is considered such an abomination is also the same region where they habitually bury their dogs under so much salad that you can't even find the meat. I mean, I could understand a hot dog purist, who liked them plain, or with only one or two specific condiments. But if you're dumping the entire garden on it, what difference does one more topping make?
They don't dump sugar on it.

Also, purist is not minimalist.
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When I was little, I used to love hot dogs slathered with Cheez-Whiz and Kraft Sandwich spread. Then when I was eight or so, I had two for lunch with a bowl of cream of mushroom soup, and everything came back up in about ten minutes. I remember running out of the diner and puking my guts out in the parking lot. Don't think I've had hot dogs like that since.

For plain (i.e., jumbo all-beef ball park) hot dogs, I like ketchup and green relish, though I can be persuaded to add a dash of mustard or two.

For chili cheese dogs, French's mustard and chopped raw onion.

For pronto pups, just French's mustard, please.

The best hot dogs in the world, IMHO, are Chicago-style, made with Vienna franks. Kosher dogs that snap when you bite them waaaay outclass your average supermarket variety.
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Old 06-05-2016, 01:14 PM
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The now defunct Harry's Hot Dogs on Franklin and Randolph was a Chicago institution for over fifty years, and a hot dog there with everything automatically included ketchup. If you didn't want ketchup, you had to tell them to leave it off. They weren't the only place in town doing that.
I've had many a hot dog at the original Coney Island Nathan's, where dogs are prepared with "da woiks." This includes ketchup.
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Burger King (which now sells hot dogs) puts both ketchup and mustard on their dogs, along with chopped onions and relish. It's not bad.
The dog itself is good, too. All beef, nice smoky flavor, has that snap when you bite into it. Much better than the Wienerschnitzel variety.
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Old 06-05-2016, 02:00 PM
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Chicagoan reporting in, and I am here to state that the entire "no ketchup on hot dogs" taboo is a running joke that got out of hand.

Growing up, I ate at dozens of Chicago hot dog stands, and had ordered hot dogs with just ketchup and mustard, and nobody batted an eye. It wasn't until years later, sometime in the late eighties I think, that this culinary quirk sprang into being.
You know, this sounds about right to me. I lived in the Chicago area in the mid-80s, and don't remember there being any issue with putting ketchup on hot dogs at the time.

I think my present antipathy to putting ketchup on hot dogs originates from Cecil's 1991 column that I linked to above. It evidently made quite an impression on me.
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I like ketchup on MY hot dogs and I don't give a shit who has a problem with it. Ketchup, mustard and onions, sometimes cheese.

Dammit, now I want a hot dog.
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Ketchup is for French fries. Keep your tomatoey mitts away from my hot dog!
*shudder*
Why would anyone desecrate fries by putting anything other than salt on them?
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You've never had cheese fries? (There's a restaurant here in Pittsburgh that makes fries with cheddar, provolone and bacon bits. It's so freaking bad for you, but so good)

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For chili cheese dogs, French's mustard and chopped raw onion.

The best hot dogs in the world, IMHO, are Chicago-style, made with Vienna franks. Kosher dogs that snap when you bite them waaaay outclass your average supermarket variety.
I was never a fan of "old-fashioned" (with thick skin) hot dogs.

As for chili cheese dogs with mustard...so you're the guy that talked Rally's/Checkers into making them that way. In my mind (and Wienerschnitzel's), a "chili cheese dog" is just that - a hot dog with just chili and cheese.
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Really good French fries are best with nothing but salt and optionally some malt vinegar. But typical French fries, such as one might get from most fast-food places, are best with ketchup. And chili cheese fries, poutine, etc. are in a category all their own.
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Really good French fries are best with nothing but salt and optionally some malt vinegar. But typical French fries, such as one might get from most fast-food places, are best with ketchup.
When I lived in Czechoslovakia, Friday evenings were for going to The Black Stallion and having dark beer and French fries with tartar sauce. Yum-O!
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I like them with mustard and ketchup,
I always thought that was the norm, in the US that is.

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onions and relish. I don't want to miss out on anything.
Oh, yeah! There are few foods that onions don't improve.

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Hot dogs with ketchup and finely diced onions. Yum!
Never mustard.
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It was brought to me already prepared. I was hungry. I had few options.

Here's the thing: it was a damn tasty dog. Who knew?

I will no longer arch my eyebrows at anyone who professes enjoyment from such a sandwich.

It's not going to be my default, but I acknowledge that I learned something from the experience.


mmm
The hotdog is no sandwich, sir. How dare you.
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I like ketchup on the cheap ones that taste like cheap bologna because that's what I put on bologna. Folks what ain't from 'round these parts, or other parts with a strong sausage-making tradition, may not know what a GOOD frankfurter tastes like and can be forgiven their tastes.
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I suggest Ketchup is the new Mustard.
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Never mustard.
You forgot the word not; anything else is optional.

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Eh, if the only mustard available is plain American yellow, you're not missing much by leaving it off.

Now, Cleveland ballpark mustard, that stuff is God's gift to sausages.
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You've never had cheese fries? (There's a restaurant here in Pittsburgh that makes fries with cheddar, provolone and bacon bits. It's so freaking bad for you, but so good)
I have. They're abysmal.
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YES!!! But I still prefer ketchup.
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Chicagoan reporting in, and I am here to state that the entire "no ketchup on hot dogs" taboo is a running joke that got out of hand.

Growing up, I ate at dozens of Chicago hot dog stands, and had ordered hot dogs with just ketchup and mustard, and nobody batted an eye. It wasn't until years later, sometime in the late eighties I think, that this culinary quirk sprang into being.

The now defunct Harry's Hot Dogs on Franklin and Randolph was a Chicago institution for over fifty years, and a hot dog there with everything automatically included ketchup. If you didn't want ketchup, you had to tell them to leave it off. They weren't the only place in town doing that.

If you want ketchup, ask for it.
Yes! That's the one place where ketchup was standard on a hot dog. Freaked me right out the first time, as it's not usual to expect ketchup on a hot dog here. The only other places I've seen put ketchup as default are Home Depots, and even some of them have gotten with the program and not it's a special request.

The quirk is certainly not late 80s. I mean, I was born in the mid-70s, and ketchup was always by special request here in my neck of the woods as long as I remember hot dogs. "Everything on it" varies by hot dog stand, but always includes mustard, onions, and relish. My hot dog stand also included a pickle spear. No tomatoes. This "buried under salad" thing is exaggerated. There's only a couple stands I know (like Byron's) that truly do a buried under a mound of veggies and greens dog. In my neck of the woods, there was also JR's, which would put fresh cucumber slices on it, too, but it's not typical. The pickle spear can be removed and eaten separately (which is how I do it), so the only topping that's really extraneous on a "full-dressed" Chicago dog as defined by Vienna beef is the tomatoes.

As for asking for ketchup, it depends. There are places like the highly praised Gene & Jude's (or Gene's and Jude's) where they simply don't have ketchup on the premises. But that's the only extreme example I can think of. And they do the simple Chicago dog, with just ketchup, mustard, and relish.

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And they do the simple Chicago dog, with just ketchup, mustard, and relish.
The hell did I just write? I mean onions, mustard, and relish. Jimmy's (in Chicago proper, and another one of the hot dog kings) is the same, but they also provide you with a pickle spear.
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This weirdly makes sense to me.
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Baked beans on mine, but I'll settle for Gulden's Spicy Brown in a pinch. Oh, and potato buns.
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Fools! Everyone knows you save your ketchup for a well-done steak!

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Some love for beef/kosher hot dogs up-thread. I have to say, for decades I've eaten only beef hot-dogs when given the choice. Then one day I messed up and bought regular hot-dogs. Surprise! The indigestion I inevitably suffered after a dog never appeared! Since then, only the pork snout variety for me. . . with ketchup. Sometimes when I'm feeling crazy, I'll smear a LITTLE yellow mustard on it.
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The best hot dogs in the world, IMHO, are Chicago-style, made with Vienna franks. Kosher dogs that snap when you bite them waaaay outclass your average supermarket variety.
FTR, Vienna franks are not kosher. The other day I was not feeling well, so I tossed my daughter a twenty and she went off to Johnny Dog, up the block. Red Hot Chicago's, also not kosher, but a good dog. She came back with one for me that was only relish and ketchup because that's how she likes them. And since they charge a fine for ketchup, I obviously gave her too much money.
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