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Old 05-20-2020, 11:03 AM
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I know a lot of people with tattoos. I don't know anyone who regrets it, except my brother who thought it would be romantic to put his wife's name on his arm. He just went back and covered it up when he remarried.

Maybe those of us who don't get tattoos are not getting them for the right reasons and the people who are getting tattoos are doing what's right for them.
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Old 05-20-2020, 11:44 AM
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Maybe those of us who don't get tattoos are not getting them for the right reasons and the people who are getting tattoos are doing what's right for them.
This.

I always chuckle when people without tattoos go on about how awful they are. I've never heard a person with tattoos talk about how awful people without ink are.
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However, I'm not sorry that the tattoo I got isn't the one I wanted as a teenager, namely the equation featured in Fermat's Last Theorem.
Have you seen the Numberphile YouTube video where Brady Haran explains Fermat's Last Theorem? (if it's the one I'm thinking of, it was very good)
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Old 05-20-2020, 11:52 AM
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Why re they popular now?

Because everyone want s to show their individuality in the same way. Lack of imagination. Everyone else is doing it, so I have to, too.
You know, I always see people on this board claim this as a reason, but on what basis? What evidence is there for this? This is nothing more than someone who doesn't like tattoos making up a reason for people to get them that makes you able to look down on them. Because if someone does something you don't like, they must be less intelligent and lack critical thinking.
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What I've gotta do is question the professional ethics of some plastic surgeons. Dermal implants are one thing. Cutting off someone's nose? There's no way that's ethical.
You're being kind of generous in assuming that whoever did that was any sort of actual licensed professional, and not one of his skinhead buddies who got a set of scalpels off of eBay.
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Is it really fashion, though? Isn't fashion ephemeral?
Not necessarily Look the modern neck tie. It's been around, unchanged, for almost 200 years. Hell the entire business suit is largely unchanged for at least as long. As for informal fashion, jeans are still quite popular--goings strong for over a century.
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I feel there's a tattoos arms race now, people now have to get bigger and more outlandish tattoos to beat the next guy and become THE most interesting person at the party.
I'm going to be the most interesting guy by having no tattoos. Just wait.
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Your parents and your boss disapprove of them, therefore they're cool.
More or less. Once Parents and bosses have tattoos, kids will think they are stupid.
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Old 05-20-2020, 02:14 PM
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More or less. Once Parents and bosses have tattoos, kids will think they are stupid.
Parents already have tattoos.

People have already been claiming for decades that they are some passing fad that the next generation will have less interest in. Hasn't happened yet.
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Old 05-20-2020, 02:31 PM
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More or less. Once Parents and bosses have tattoos, kids will think they are stupid.
Eh, not sure. People don't tend to think that, say, the very concepts of hair and jewelry and makeup and backpacks and shaving are stupid just because of what their parents do with them.

Younger generations do tend to rethink what qualifies as a cool style or trend within such cultural practices, but they don't typically reject them altogether. So one generation might think the previous generation's preferred colors or styles of tattoos are stupid, but still get tattoos themselves in different colors or styles.

My guess is that tattoos have moved out of the "fashion of the moment" category shared with fads like fidget spinners and lilac-grey dye jobs, and into the category of "lifestyle choice", such as whether or not you wear makeup or prefer your hair short or long. Some people in any generation will like a particular lifestyle choice and others will not, but it's not going to become automatically uncool for the entirety of one generation just because some people in the previous generation liked it.
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I'm going to be the most interesting guy by having no tattoos. Just wait.
I'm going to wait until I'm 80 then I'm getting a bunch. All faded, blurry and smudged beyond recognition.

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Not necessarily Look the modern neck tie. It's been around, unchanged, for almost 200 years. Hell the entire business suit is largely unchanged for at least as long. As for informal fashion, jeans are still quite popular--goings strong for over a century.
Fair point. That's a good example.
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Parents already have tattoos.

People have already been claiming for decades that they are some passing fad that the next generation will have less interest in. Hasn't happened yet.
If anything they seem to have gotten more popular. I wonder if there's any data on that?
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Inked people are not of my karass. And so it goes.
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Inked people are not of my karass. And so it goes.
Definitions found via Google;

karass. Noun. (plural karasses) A network or group of people that unknown to them, are somehow affiliated or linked, specifically to fulfill the will of God.

A group of people linked in a cosmically significant manner, even when superficial linkages are not evident. Created by Kurt Vonnegut.
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I've never cared for tattoos. I've seen some interesting and complex ones, but have never seen a woman made more beautiful by one... or more. YMMV, of course.
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What I've gotta do is question the professional ethics of some plastic surgeons. Dermal implants are one thing. Cutting off someone's nose? There's no way that's ethical.
What leads you to believe these people went to someone with a medical degree to get any of this stuff done?

Lots of amateur surgeons in the body modification world. I'm sure they try to keep things properly clean and sterile, but they don't have medical training and don't have access to anesthesia, painkillers, ability to write prescriptions if an infection requiring antibiotics occurs....

Apparently, for some people the pain involved is part of the whole thing for them.

It's not for me, but whether or not I approve doesn't matter. Not my body, not my decision.
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I always chuckle when people without tattoos go on about how awful they are. I've never heard a person with tattoos talk about how awful people without ink are.
Well we're all allowed our opinions. In my opinion, I think most tattoos look a bit grubby and don't improve appearance. And look worse as the skin ages. But I don't give a stuff if other people want to get one.
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Parents already have tattoos.

People have already been claiming for decades that they are some passing fad that the next generation will have less interest in. Hasn't happened yet.
Heck, I saw a couple of grandmas with tats showing at the state fair more than a decade ago.
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My guess is that tattoos have moved out of the "fashion of the moment" category shared with fads like fidget spinners and lilac-grey dye jobs, and into the category of "lifestyle choice", such as whether or not you wear makeup or prefer your hair short or long. Some people in any generation will like a particular lifestyle choice and others will not, but it's not going to become automatically uncool for the entirety of one generation just because some people in the previous generation liked it.
Exactly. I tend to lump tattoos in with beards, hairstyles, makeup styles, etc... these days.

Except for people who have facial tattoos or other tattoos that are obviously visible like that- those tend to be a little bit more of an indication of something other than just an everyday lifestyle choice.

When I first read the original post, I was thinking it had to be a zombie. Tattoos have been a thing since about 1999-ish or even before. There are plenty of forty-fifty somethings with lots of tattoos, which I'd have thought would make it super-uncool, unless it's become so normalized that no young people think of them that way.
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What leads you to believe these people went to someone with a medical degree to get any of this stuff done?
You're right - another article on Damon mentions "his surgeon". And then mentions that he's a medical school dropout.
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