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Could you give an example of her harpiness?
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Thanks, but that didn't help at all. I still don't see any actual examples.
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"That Girl" and the scowling asshole she was engaged to. I don't think there was one episode where he wasn't pissed about something.
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Thanks, but that didn't help at all. I still don't see any actual examples.
(Shrug) To each their own--if you don't automatically see it in virtually everything about her personality, I'm not going to be able to example you into seeing it.
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(Also, I'll point out that "harpy" wasn't my term--I'd characterise her more as a harridan and/or fishwife.)
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(Shrug) To each their own--if you don't automatically see it in virtually everything about her personality, I'm not going to be able to example you into seeing it.
To be fair, you didn't even provide one.

I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying that I can't think of any specific examples.

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The only episode in which Debra is a harpy is the PMS episode. Other than that, what you refer to as harpiness is a normal person's reasonable reactions to the insanity surrounding her.
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Ann Kelsey and Stuart Markowitz. A viewer could plausibly argue that a nebbish like Stuart would never be able to attract a fox like Ann. Except that the two actors were actually married (to each other) in real life.
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Wilma was way outta Fred Flintstone’s league.
I seem to recall that Wilma came from money and that she married way, way beneath her by wedding a guy who was a blue-collar crane operator in a quarry. Certainly Wilma's mother had nothing but contempt for Fred.

From the remake of Battlestar Galactica: Lee "Apollo" Adama and... well, every single female the writers tried to pair him with.
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Wilma was way outta Fred Flintstone’s league.
Considering the Flintstones was patterned after the Honeymooner's, that shouldn't be a surprise. Alice should never have been with Ralph.
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Wilma was way outta Fred Flintstone’s league.
Betty was even further out of Barney's league.
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Betty was even further out of Barney's league.
Anyone who could communicate other than in grunts and hand gestures would be out of Barney's league.
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To be fair, you didn't even provide one.

I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying that I can't think of any specific examples.
And I'm saying that virtually everything about the character's personality throughout the entire series strikes me that way, and that if you don't see it my way, you never will.
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And I'm saying that virtually everything about the character's personality throughout the entire series strikes me that way, and that if you don't see it my way, you never will.
Sounds like the little old lady on the jury who cast the deciding vote for Guilty because "he has shifty eyes".
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Sounds like the little old lady on the jury who cast the deciding vote for Guilty because "he has shifty eyes".
The standard for liking someone's personality or not is not the "above reasonable doubt" from a jury trial. I found the the character as repulsive as anyone from Seinfeld, and I don't need to write an essay before I am allowed to think that way. I wouldn't want to spend five minutes around her, much less a life-time married to her.

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... and I don't need to write an essay before I am allowed to think that way...

Please don't write an essay. Why don't you just give an example instead? Is it because people will rebut your position? I believe everyone here gets what you're saying,...they just don't agree with you.

I think your myopic description of Debra is off the mark.

Harridan - a callous, lying traitor, an inauthentic, paranoid crook and a sickly crone who craves power and money.

Fishwife - a vulgar, gossip-spreading, abusive or nagging woman with a loud, unpleasant voice.
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Harridan - a callous, lying traitor, an inauthentic, paranoid crook and a sickly crone who craves power and money.

Fishwife - a vulgar, gossip-spreading, abusive or nagging woman with a loud, unpleasant voice.
Thanks for the clarification. So "harridan" is an inaccurate description of Debora, while "fishwife" is dead accurate.
(Don't think I don't know what you are trying to do by bumping this old thread.)

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No Darren, fishwife doesn't fit either.

No Darren, your Karnak skills are "off." I read, as well as, post in threads I have an interest in.

Don't project your thoughts and actions onto me.

Not that I owe you any explanation, but..I was originally going to post a mismatched movie couple until I realized the thread was TV couples only.

Instead, I gave my opinion (do I need to write an essay?), stating that I think the Debra character was neither a harpy, a harridan, nor a fishwife. I would've refuted those statements no matter whom the poster was.

I never noticed the date of this thread, but I believe it was on the first page of the Cafe Society.

But,...you do you.
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I never noticed the date of this thread, but I believe it was on the first page of the Cafe Society.
Last post before yours was in January.
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saucywench, you can see as well as Darren Garrison that the post immediately before yours was on January 9, 2020. Though I'm not sure the relevance of the year, since any other year would mean the thread was dormant even longer before your post. And in any event, the thread certainly wasn't on the first page of Cafe Society when you bumped it.

It appears likely that you bumped an old thread solely for the purpose of stirring up trouble. In any event, regardless of your intention, that appears to have been the result of your action. This thread is closed.
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