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Old 05-23-2020, 01:13 PM
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Hockey is coming back!


24 team playoff, with the first round being a best-of-five. Here are the seeds:

EASTERN CONFERENCE
1. Bruins
2. Lightning
3. Capitals
4. Flyers

PLAY-IN
Penguins (5) vs. Canadiens (12)
Hurricanes (6) vs. Rangers (11)
Islanders (7) vs. Panthers (10)
Maple Leafs (8) vs. Blue Jackets (9)

WESTERN CONFERENCE
1. Blues
2. Avalanche
3. Golden Knights
4. Stars

PLAY-IN
Oilers (5) vs. (Blackhawks (12)
Predators (6) vs. Coyotes (11)
Canucks (7) vs. Wild (10)
Flames (8) vs. Jets (9)

The play-in teams do a best-of-five, then you end up with the regular 16 team format for the rest of it. The top seeds will play a mini tournament to determine their seeding and to warm up.

I can't believe the Isles have to play the Panthers -- we always lose to the Panthers! Maybe not this time.
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Hmm, what I've seen is that the NHLPA is still negotiating it, do you have any more firm information?
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Maybe I’ll get excited when it starts. It’s already late May and I haven’t had playoff rounds to keep me interested. Stanley Cup finals in June were really pushing it.
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This article says it's confirmed:

https://pittsburghhockeynow.com/we-h...ayoffs-return/
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The NHLPA has "Approved further negotiations."
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The NHLPA has "Approved further negotiations."
This much better article notes that. Interesting the article claims the playoffs could last until early winter.
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The more I think about, the less any of this makes sense. Hockey already has the shortest off season of the big 4 team sports in the USA with the cup finals ending mid June and then the season beginning early October.

No one knows what October will bring, but there’s a better chance of having fans at least.
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As others have noted, this is still all tentative and it hasn't even been established if, when, or where these playoffs will be held. The article above mentions four potential hub cities; other versions talk about maybe just two. It hardly matters since no fans will be in attendance. It probably also doesn't matter much if the schedule runs into the normal start of the 2020-21 season, as it would be better IMHO to delay the regular season until normal fan attendance can be allowed. It has to happen sometime!
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As others have noted, this is still all tentative and it hasn't even been established if, when, or where these playoffs will be held. The article above mentions four potential hub cities; other versions talk about maybe just two. It hardly matters since no fans will be in attendance. It probably also doesn't matter much if the schedule runs into the normal start of the 2020-21 season, as it would be better IMHO to delay the regular season until normal fan attendance can be allowed. It has to happen sometime!
And that could be a workable plan. Have a 2021 half season with fan attendance, interest in hockey starts to pick up in January anyway. I simply don’t believe that the new normal is going to consist of arenas at 25% forever.
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they could probably start next season in Dec. if the playoffs go to Sept.
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Old 05-24-2020, 09:33 AM
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they could probably start next season in Dec. if the playoffs go to Sept.
Although the NBA has traditionally had Christmas Day as their big day. The NHL has had January 1 for the Winter Classic. I highly doubt they’ll be a Winter Classic, but I could see Dec 25 as NBA tip-off and January 1 NHL face off for next year’s seasons.
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The more I think about, the less any of this makes sense. Hockey already has the shortest off season of the big 4 team sports in the USA with the cup finals ending mid June and then the season beginning early October.

No one knows what October will bring, but there’s a better chance of having fans at least.
I'd have to agree. Baseball might be able to have a shortened 2020, and the NFL will probably be able to start on time although maybe not with full stadia, but hockey and basketball are rapidly reaching the point that this season would impinge upon the next.
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It occurs to me, that at this point it's possible that no fans is preferable. A lot of playoff series had issues with trying to keep the ice healthy in Spring temperatures, I'm was curious how many places were really prepared to deal with mid summer temps. But no Fans to add body heat, is probably a big help.

Actually my biggest concern is the Draft, and how the lottery goes. The Wings were clearly going to end with worst record, and a guaranteed top 4 pick at least. But if they just declare the Shitty Seven equal at this point that would be bullshit.
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I'm not a hockey fan but I'm posting because I follow basketball and the NBA will probably be in a similar position.

I think the idea of trying to have a normal postseason makes little since for either NBA or NHL, but even less for the hockey pros considering how physical the sport is.

I'd think that they need to have one-game play-ins and shorten the series to 5 games each. Maybe save the best of seven format for the conference finals and the championship round. But having the NBA and NHL season possibly compete with the World Series and NFL regular season would be a monumentally bad idea, I'd think.
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I'd have to agree. Baseball might be able to have a shortened 2020, and the NFL will probably be able to start on time although maybe not with full stadia, but hockey and basketball are rapidly reaching the point that this season would impinge upon the next.
It will be interesting to see if I and other hockey fans can mentally flip the switch to hockey mood in the middle of summer. I kinda doubt it, I just have such a mental association with sports and the seasons. If I was king of the NHL, there’s no way a season would stretch into June in a normal year. Memorial Day is when I start to really pay attention to the baseball standings as well as my fantasy teams.

But, I know the allure of that sweet sweet playoff $$$ is too much to resist for the NHL and the NBA
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looks like NBA is going to play many or all games at Disney World. I think that means the NHL likely goes to Vegas
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It will be interesting to see if I and other hockey fans can mentally flip the switch to hockey mood in the middle of summer. I kinda doubt it, I just have such a mental association with sports and the seasons. If I was king of the NHL, there’s no way a season would stretch into June in a normal year. Memorial Day is when I start to really pay attention to the baseball standings as well as my fantasy teams.
I suspect it'll have a lot to do with what else you're allowed to do. If there are no bars, restaurants, or movies, people will be delighted to be able to watch live sports.

I mean, I don't really care about the NHL, but a Raptors playoff series right now is just what the doctor ordered. Literally none of my other favourite diversions are possible right now.
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It will be interesting to see if I and other hockey fans can mentally flip the switch to hockey mood in the middle of summer. I kinda doubt it, I just have such a mental association with sports and the seasons.
This is the feeling among we regulars at the local sports bar. Hockey is fine in, say, January; it's not so fine in May or June. If one of our favourite teams is not in the Stanley Cup playoffs, we've lost interest in the sport, and will ask the barman to switch the TV over to a baseball game, which seems more appropriate for this time of year. If we feel that baseball is more appropriate in May and June, you can imagine how we'd feel about hockey in July and August.
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NHL releasing return plan at 4:30 EDT today .
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One article indicated that “the to be negotiated” are details like reseeding Vs bracket and possible best of five in the first round after three play-in.
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the only thing not announced today is the 2 host cities, 1 in east, the other in the west. The pairings are set.

https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/...season-resumes

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also each team will play 2 exhibition games
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Would they even be able to celebrate, though? Okay, you win the Stanley Cup, but can't hold a parade. Can you even have your day with the Cup? Hell, you probably won't even be allowed to kiss the damned thing.

I don't know, it seems like it would be kind of anti-climatic.

I mean, don't get me wrong -- I really want to watch hockey again. But it seems like it would be such a let down. And would they even be able to keep things from spreading? I'm just skeptical.

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Would they even be able to celebrate, though? Okay, you win the Stanley Cup, but can't hold a parade. Can you even have your day with the Cup? Hell, you probably won't even be allowed to kiss the damned thing.

I don't know, it seems like it would be kind of anti-climatic.
Just declare the 2019/2020 season off. I know that we Canadians are supposed to go bugshit over hockey, but I have no interest in hockey in July or August. Just call the season off, and don't try to make us interested in some kind of "playoffs," when we sports fans are more interested in MLB (please let the Blue Jays play at some point this season), and NFL in the fall.

After hockey from September to June, counting exhibition games, in a normal season, where we get TV coverage of two games a day and three on weekends, most often between teams we don't care about (Nashville vs. Phoenix--you really think this holds Canadian fans' attention? Seriously?), I say "fuck hockey." As a Canadian, I'm not going to go bugshit over it. And 24 teams in a playoff in a 30-team league? That's not a championship; that's Little League. Gary Bettman, you are a money-grubbing thug. I am one Canadian who will not watch your stupid, ill-advised, unnecessary, unneeded, hockey games. Fuck you, and fuck hockey.
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If MLB can’t get their act together, then perhaps these late season NHL and NBA will get attention.

But this almost sounds like an admission that both NHL and NBa know their regular seasons are too long and that only the most devoted fans are paying attention until the NFL and college football winds down. They’d probably love to start their seasons around Christmas or New Years but the financial considerations make that impossible.
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What does it matter when they play since it's indoors? Why is hoops in summer olympics when it's a winter sport most places. In the US college swimming is winter/spring but it is in summer olympics too. Probably because the IOC wants popular sports in summer games. Only ice and snow sports are in winter olympics.

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It matters because, despite being indoors, it is much harder to maintain the ice in a rink in a warm climate than a cool one. If they are playing games in July and August in Vegas, the players are going to be skating through slush.
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Basketball was invented as a sport to fill in the time up north where it wasn’t practical to give kids outdoor exercise. Hockey grew up on frozen ponds and lakes. I assume basketball is in the summer Olympics because it’s not done on snow and ice. Same reason as soccer even though both are winter sports in most of the northern hemisphere.
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What does it matter where a sport started? Does that mean nobody outside the US should play Basketball , baseball, or FB because all 3 were invented here? And they were all invented in the Northeast US. Is it OK those 3 sports are played in all 50 states now and foreign countries?
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The NHL announced today that all rounds after the play-in will be best of seven. They also announced reseeding for each round except the finals. Regular season percentage will determine the designated home team for the finals.

When asked about refunds for the 8 games not played we were told by our rep that the season was officially paused not cancelled. That answer was given yesterday.
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Most teams said they are refunding regular season games not played. You can get money back or take a credit towards next season. I am taking the credit and I think most people are . Are you a Caps fan since you are in VA? I'm a Canes fan.
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Most teams said they are refunding regular season games not played. You can get money back or take a credit towards next season. I am taking the credit and I think most people are . Are you a Caps fan since you are in VA? I'm a Canes fan.
Yes, Caps fan. I expect the same options but found it amusing that they were still saying “suspended” at this point. Of course, that was just an admin ticket rep so he might not have had the latest.
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Yes, Caps fan. I expect the same options but found it amusing that they were still saying “suspended” at this point. Of course, that was just an admin ticket rep so he might not have had the latest.
I assume that is a soft way to let the fans of the floundering and bankrupt teams(i.e. the 12 people who have Coyotes season tickets) that they are probably screwed.
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