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Old 05-15-2019, 11:49 AM
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All Elite Wrestling going to TNT.


https://nypost.com/2019/05/15/aew-la...s-competition/

Could we be seeing another Monday Night Wars?
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Old 05-15-2019, 01:46 PM
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Could we be seeing another Monday Night Wars?
Because look how well the last Monday Night War (WWE vs Impact) worked out.
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Old 05-15-2019, 01:50 PM
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IMO they missed a spectacular opportunity with their name: they should have gone with American Wrestling Elite for AWE. The promos write themselves that way and who can forget AWE as an acronym? Much better than AEW, which has no character, no zazz...
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IMO they missed a spectacular opportunity with their name: they should have gone with American Wrestling Elite for AWE. The promos write themselves that way and who can forget AWE as an acronym? Much better than AEW, which has no character, no zazz...
They could have had a great slogan: "We'll leave you in AWE".
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Old 05-15-2019, 02:03 PM
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They could have had a great slogan: "We'll leave you in AWE".
Their program could have been called "Shock & AWE". They could bill themselves as AWEsome. Seriously, it would be so easy because they just write themselves.
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Old 05-15-2019, 03:20 PM
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These guys did sell out an indy show not so long ago, and they've signed some top shelf talent. Then again, the best way I know to make a small fortune in the wrestling business is to start with a large fortune. I'll likely check them out on TNT and give them a chance....
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Won't be much of a war when the promotion is playing on one of the only days there is no WWE programming. It's slated to go on Tuesday, a day after RAW, a day before NXT and three days before Smackdown moves to Fridays after Fox.
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These guys did sell out an indy show not so long ago, and they've signed some top shelf talent.
I haven't watched wrestling since the late 1970s and even I had heard of some of the names the AEW has: Chris Jericho (his band gets written up a lot in metal mags) and the Buck Brothers (I saw a short doc on them a couple years ago).
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I haven't watched wrestling since the late 1970s and even I had heard of some of the names the AEW has: Chris Jericho (his band gets written up a lot in metal mags) and the Buck Brothers (I saw a short doc on them a couple years ago).
I watched a little bit of the dying days of TNA/Impact, and some New Japan in the last couple of years. Cody Rhodes is Dusty's son (not sure why he can't use the Rhodes name, possibly something to do with WWE). Kenny Omega was main eventing in New Japan. Brandi Rhodes is Codys wife.

I expect the product will be stiff, high impact, dangerous stuff similar to what New Japan does, but probably with more angles and interviews.
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Old 05-15-2019, 04:55 PM
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I'm looking forward to seeing what AEW can do.
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Old 05-15-2019, 08:15 PM
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IMO they missed a spectacular opportunity with their name: they should have gone with American Wrestling Elite for AWE. The promos write themselves that way and who can forget AWE as an acronym? Much better than AEW, which has no character, no zazz...
My WAG is that they considered it but there is already a wrestling organization called AWE (Allen Wrestling Entertainment). Considering that WWF lost their name due to conflicts with the World Wildlife Fund, they may have been shy about inviting a lawsuit.
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My WAG is that they considered it but there is already a wrestling organization called AWE (Allen Wrestling Entertainment). Considering that WWF lost their name due to conflicts with the World Wildlife Fund, they may have been shy about inviting a lawsuit.
The name is what it is because the faction of Cody, the Young Bucks, and Kenny Omega - the guys who are starting this promotion and booked the debut show in a 10,000 seat arena with their own money, are called "the Elite" from there time in New Japan as the leaders of Bullet Club.
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Old 05-16-2019, 08:59 PM
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My WAG is that they considered it but there is already a wrestling organization called AWE (Allen Wrestling Entertainment). Considering that WWF lost their name due to conflicts with the World Wildlife Fund, they may have been shy about inviting a lawsuit.
I did not know there was already an AWE. i do remember the WWF lawsuit; it made the news quite a bit.
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The name is what it is because the faction of Cody, the Young Bucks, and Kenny Omega - the guys who are starting this promotion and booked the debut show in a 10,000 seat arena with their own money, are called "the Elite" from there time in New Japan as the leaders of Bullet Club.
Another new fact for me; thanks!
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Old 05-16-2019, 11:42 PM
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[<----snip]Cody Rhodes is Dusty's son (not sure why he can't use the Rhodes name, possibly something to do with WWE).[<-snip->]Brandi Rhodes is Codys wife.
You're correct. WWE owns the rights to the name "Cody Rhodes." Since he left WWE, he's gone by "Cody," "The American Nightmare, Cody*," and "(with his wife as manager) Cody and Brandi Rhodes."

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I expect the product will be stiff, high impact, dangerous stuff similar to what New Japan does, but probably with more angles and interviews.
I haven't seen a lot of NJPW, but from what I've seen, it seems high impact, but more involved in storyline then a dangerous spot-fest.

*That's A riff on his late father's wrestling name, The American Dream Dusty Rhodes.
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I'm looking forward to seeing what AEW can do.
This. No predictions, let's see what they can produce.
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I haven't decided if I want to spend $50 for their upcoming PPV - Double or Nothing, since I already get WWE's PPVs for $10 a month. I'm sure it will be reproduced in YouTube in some fashion and split up into spoiler headlines.
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Old 05-17-2019, 01:12 PM
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I look forward to seeing the product on TV.
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Old 05-17-2019, 03:31 PM
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I look forward to seeing the product on TV.
I just hope they stay away from the hokey BS, they have done some really silly stuff. The Hangman Page/Joey Ryan feud featured Ryan's death, a talking cowboy boot and Ryan's return via a penis parade.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2vZIqx1-88&t=2s
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run down on the AEW ppv:
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Hangman Page has won the (very entertaining) Casino Battle Royale, and receives a match against the winner of Chris Jericho vs. Kenny Omega for the inaugural AEW world championship.

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Broke down and got 2x or 0. Can't watch it on Chrome, so I'm actually using Microsoft Edge for the first time.
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Jesus god, what's with this atonal Partridge family knockoff opening the show?

They are definitely showing some growing pains here...
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That was an awesome 6-man refereed by the Ancient One Tilda Swenson. Christopher Danielson is a fucking genius, and glad to see he can still perform. The Oriental guys knew their shit.

Weird to hear Jim Ross get outmatched in wrestling history by the other announcers. They are true wrestling nerds.
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Awesome Kong is in AEW!
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Awesome Kong makes a surprise entrance, then works about 10% of the match. Wasn't the yellow-clad chick in the Mae Young classic and NXT for a cup of coffee?

Nice to hear commentary that doesn't have Vince rewriting their words.
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I'm digging this so far. It's not polished, but it's more real. I like that it's not sanitized for family viewing. Little things are different here and there, like an announcer that wears a mask and goes by an alias. He's otherwise a regular announcer. No story behind it. Just kind of an eccentricity that doesn't need to be explained.
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God damn that's a lot of blood.
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Holy shit, the Rhodes brothers put on an epic!!!

It was the best of Dusty booking. Dustin was squirting blood like a supersoaker. It was like watching a trainwreck, seeing all the wrecked cars get back in line, and wreck again. I was real concerned for Dustin, working as long as he did with the constant blood loss. But fuck yeah, that was Dusty bleeding like a stuck pig when the Andersons turned on him in a cage match.

I do not regret buying this at all. This has already beat to oblivion any WWE PPV I've ever seen.
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Overall, this was an amazing show. Great matches with great athleticism and storytelling, clean finishes, and satisfying finishes even when the winner wasn't who I was rooting for.

If AEW can keep this up in future shows, then they'll be the biggest competition WWE has had in 20 years.
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It's JON MOXLEY!
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FU off the top of the stage!

What a way to end a show.
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Kind of an anticlimactic way to end the show, I was about to write, then Jon Moxley invaded.

I didn't expect Jericho to win, but he somehow turned an underwhelming finish into establishing himself as top heel. It's like what Baron Corbin's been trying to do, and a master showing effortlessly how it's done. Jericho might have put on a belly, but he was definitely edgier and unhinged without WWE controlling his reins. Kenny Omega could have been the John Cena of this fed, but AEW's not trying to win over the kindergarten crowd.

WWE should worry.
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Agreed. I don't think they could've put on a better debut show. I was never once pissed off by a finish, or disappointed, or thinking "fuck this company", or wondering what the hell the bookers saw in the people who were going over that I couldn't.

If nothing else, then maybe this'll light a fire under WWE's butt and get them to stop with the slapdash booking, absence of continuity, endless talky segments and no-contests instead of actual wrestling, and the ongoing and baffling push of Baron Corbin as a top heel/person who appears if you step into an Applebee's and demand to speak to the manager.
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Double or Nothing was sub-par all around. Lucky for them that sub-par is the par for wrestling these days. More than anything they need a better director, the camera angles sucked, not enough close-ups, and cuts to some stupid audience reaction right when something good happens. We never need to see audience reactions because we are the audience!

Also, a masked announcer sets new standards for stupidity.

The Rhodes Bros. fighting each other was good. Joining up as a tag team next is stupid, first they team up, then have a falling out, then engage in a blood bath.

Jericho and Omega was good also. I was not all that impressed with the first one, I think Omega was better this time.

Ambrose needs to be Ambrose again. I don't care about his name but he has to return to the character that made the Shield something in the first place.

The rest of it was mostly crap.

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I’m glad the show won’t be on Monday night. AEW already has a built in cult following that already thinks their wrestlers are cooler than the WWE product and AEW needs to just put on the best product it can and not worry about WWE.

Dont compare to TNA/Impact. That was a poorly booked and ran clown show with no juice.




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The rest of it was mostly crap.
I dunno, Tri P, I may be mis-remembering your posts, but I recall you being the guy to whom nothing is ever good enough.
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I dunno, Tri P, I may be mis-remembering your posts, but I recall you being the guy to whom nothing is ever good enough.
That is quite true. Doesn't mean it wasn't crap though.
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