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[Czarcasm]

Ignoring everything Trump has done in the past, he is now openly asking foreign countries to investigate his political opponents, so I have to ask those of you who support him: What in the holy fuck is wrong with you people?
At what point did you decide that there is no difference between right and wrong? Have all of you always secretly been this crookedly self-serving and were just waiting for the right opportunity to show your true colors? And the first mealy-mouthed jackass that suggests that they wouldn't be this way if we just listened to those bigots and talked nicey-nicey to them can just shove it where the sun don't shine. I've seen how they talk on their own forums and in person, and I've seen how they respond to differences of opinion in their own forums and in person, and I've got a bit of advice about those of you who bitch about not being treated "fairly" here: I've seen your version of "fair" on your home turf, so be damn glad we don't treat you the way you do others. 1

[Czarcasm]

And have a nice day, y'all. 2

[SteveG1]

Originally Posted by Czarcasm

Ignoring everything Trump has done in the past, he is now openly asking foreign countries to investigate his political opponents, so I have to ask those of you who support him: What in the holy fuck is wrong with you people?
At what point did you decide that there is no difference between right and wrong? Have all of you always secretly been this crookedly self-serving and were just waiting for the right opportunity to show your true colors? And the first mealy-mouthed jackass that suggests that they wouldn't be this way if we just listened to those bigots and talked nicey-nicey to them can just shove it where the sun don't shine. I've seen how they talk on their own forums and in person, and I've seen how they respond to differences of opinion in their own forums and in person, and I've got a bit of advice about those of you who bitch about not being treated "fairly" here: I've seen your version of "fair" on your home turf, so be damn glad we don't treat you the way you do others.

Really. What the FUCK is wrong with you assholes? 3

[D_Odds]

Don't you know? It triggers the liberals. That is enough reason to support him. Everything after that (especially the open racism/sexism/bigotry) is just a bonus. 4

[ElvisL1ves]

Bless your hearts. 5

[Czarcasm]

Originally Posted by D_Odds

Don't you know? It triggers the liberals. That is enough reason to support him. Everything after that (especially the open racism/sexism/bigotry) is just a bonus.

A political philosophy based on hate. How lovely. 6

[Czarcasm]

Here's another question for all you "We're being picked on"abies: what message boards are more fair than this one? Show us what boards you want us to be more like. 7

[Elendil's Heir]

My acid test for hyperpartisans is, "If the person involved was Clinton and not Trump, and the countries were, say, China and not Ukraine, would you still be totally cool with this?" 8

[octopus]

I’m not technically a Trump supporter though I may have to be in 2020 if Sanders or another socialist gets the (D) nomination. That said I do have to ask if you folks on the left are beginning to embrace the newly discovered 9th and 10th amendments now? 9

[Czarcasm]

Originally Posted by octopus

I’m not technically a Trump supporter though I may have to be in 2020 if Sanders or another socialist gets the (D) nomination. That said I do have to ask if you folks on the left are beginning to embrace the newly discovered 9th and 10th amendments now?

Fuck you, troll. 10

[enipla]

Originally Posted by Czarcasm

Ignoring everything Trump has done in the past, he is now openly asking foreign countries to investigate his political opponents...

Extorted one, asked two others.

Carry on. 11

[octopus]

Originally Posted by Czarcasm

Here's another question for all you "We're being picked on"abies: what message boards are more fair than this one? Show us what boards you want us to be more like.

You are asking good questions today! And so politely as well. That makes me happy.

Honestly, this forum is pretty good. It could be a little bit better. I agree more than you think with a lot of you on many issues. What I don’t think is helpful is when direct quotes get the Humpty Dumpty treatment when being discussed. I don’t think the blatant and consistent dishonesty is necessary. 12

[octopus]

Originally Posted by Czarcasm

Fuck you, troll.

And we were having a moment.

I guess your virtue-signaling questions are for your circle jerk crew? Sad. 13

[The Librarian]

They're racists, bigots and idiots. and they are ~50% of voters.

To be fair: that is roughly the same percentage you'll find anywhere. How do you think the Brexit vote happened? Why Putin still is in charge? Why Berlusconi was one of Italy's longest serving presidents?
Bolsonaro? Orbán? Erdogan? Duterte?

This fighting ignorance thing is gonna take way longer than anybody thought. We might even lose. 14

[SteveG1]

Originally Posted by Czarcasm

Fuck you, troll.

Ditto. 15

[Czarcasm]

Originally Posted by The Librarian

They're racists, bigots and idiots. and they are ~50% of voters.

To be fair: that is roughly the same percentage you'll find anywhere. How do you think the Brexit vote happened? Why Putin still is in charge? Why Berlusconi was one of Italy's longest serving presidents?
Bolsonaro? Orbán? Erdogan? Duterte?

This fighting ignorance thing is gonna take way longer than anybody thought. We might even lose.

If we keep pretending that the racist self-serving shitholes supporting Trump are even interested in playing by the rules, we are sure to lose. They can and will ignore any admonishments that aren't accompanied by physical and/or monetary punishment. 16

[octopus]

Originally Posted by SteveG1

Ditto.

I am not surprised that you are incapable of an original thought. I’m actually impressed that your handlers are so proficient in their jobs. Look at you! You can log onto a forum! I’m sure you’re hungry. Go pull your feed lever. 17

[octopus]

Originally Posted by Czarcasm

If we keep pretending that the racist self-serving shitholes supporting Trump are even interested in playing by the rules, we are sure to lose. They can and will ignore any admonishments that aren't accompanied by physical and/or monetary punishment.

Are you advocating political violence? 18

[Shodan]

Originally Posted by SteveG1

Ditto.

You misspelled "megadittos".

Originally Posted by Czarcasm

I've seen how they talk on their own forums and in person, and I've seen how they respond to differences of opinion in their own forums and in person, and I've got a bit of advice about those of you who bitch about not being treated "fairly" here: I've seen your version of "fair" on your home turf, so be damn glad we don't treat you the way you do others.

I'm sure glad no one here calls me vermin, insect, piece of shit, racist, Nazi, self-serving shithole, etc.

The SDMB - where self-parody goes beyond, into performance art.

Regards,
Shodan 19

[Jackmannii]

Originally Posted by Czarcasm

...I have to ask those of you who support him: What in the holy fuck is wrong with you people?

A novel line of inquiry, sure to yield dividends.

But wouldn't it be less taxing on one's psyche to wear Rep. Tlaib's new t-shirt? 20

[Czarcasm]

Originally Posted by Shodan

You misspelled "megadittos".
I'm sure glad no one here calls me vermin, insect, piece of shit, racist, Nazi, self-serving shithole, etc.

The SDMB - where self-parody goes beyond, into performance art.

Keep whimpering, shit-for-brains. Name a board that is more fair, or shut the fuck up. 21

[octopus]

Originally Posted by Czarcasm

Keep whimpering, shit-for-brains. Name a board that is more fair, or shut the fuck up.

You realize that the SDMB is not fair because of you. It’s fair in spite of you. You get no credit for the current level of integrity the staff demonstrate. 22

[Czarcasm]

Originally Posted by octopus

Are you advocating political violence?

You aren't worth the trouble any more...if you ever were.

Buh Bye. 23

[The Librarian]

Originally Posted by Shodan

You misspelled "megadittos".
I'm sure glad no one here calls me vermin, insect, piece of shit, racist, Nazi, self-serving shithole, etc.

The SDMB - where self-parody goes beyond, into performance art.

Regards,
Shodan

Since when do you self-identify as Trump supporter?

Well, if the shoe fits... 24

[Czarcasm]

Originally Posted by The Librarian

Since when do you self-identify as Trump supporter?

Well, if the shoe fits...

Nice catch.

Well, Shodan?
Are you a Trump supporter, or are you just here for another of your self-aggrandizing hijacks? 25

[Czarcasm]

A poll for Trump supporters:
Given that

Originally Posted by HuffPost

Ellen Weintraub, chair of the Federal Election Commission, was moved once again to remind political candidates that asking for help from foreign governments is illegal, minutes after President Donald Trump publicly did just that.
Speaking to reporters outside the White House on Thursday morning, the president urged the governments of Ukraine and China to investigate his Democratic rival Joe Biden.

Do you
1. No longer support Trump
2. Don't give a flying fuck about the law as long as he can get away with it and win. 26

[Buck Godot]

Originally Posted by Czarcasm

Ignoring everything Trump has done in the past, he is now openly asking foreign countries to investigate his political opponents, so I have to ask those of you who support him: What in the holy fuck is wrong with you people?

For some it I got mine, fuck y'all: As long as my brokerage statement has an extra zero who cares what he does to anyone else. Besides if we end up in a fascist dictatorship, there is a pretty good chance I'll be among the ruling elite.

For others, as D_Odds says, its all about trolling liberals: Ha!, you care about Democracy, civil rights, the environment, and love for yer fellow human being? What a loser, suck on this numb nutz LOL!

For a third group due to a combination of confirmation bias, and insular news sources, it is taken as an article of faith that the Democrats are worse: Sure he used his presidential for political ends, everyone does that. Clinton, Obama and Biden all did it and worse! Evidence? No I can't cite specific examples, but that just proves how good they were at covering it up! 27

[Euphonious Polemic]

Originally Posted by octopus

I’m not technically a Trump supporter though I may have to be in 2020 if Sanders or another socialist gets the (D) nomination. That said I do have to ask if you folks on the left are beginning to embrace the newly discovered 9th and 10th amendments now?

Fucking ignorant troll does not know the meaning of the word "socialism". What a shock.

You're not technically a human being either. 28

[Euphonious Polemic]

Originally Posted by Shodan

You misspelled "megadittos".
I'm sure glad no one here calls me vermin, insect, piece of shit, racist, Nazi, self-serving shithole, etc.

The SDMB - where self-parody goes beyond, into performance art.

Regards,
Shodan

Now I will call you a sad little snowflake. 29

[Euphonious Polemic]

Originally Posted by Czarcasm

Nice catch.

Well, Shodan?
Are you a Trump supporter, or are you just here for another of your self-aggrandizing hijacks?

He's here for a pity-party, so he can go brag somewhere about how every libral is so MEEEEAAAN to him.

It's like the religious folks who come to your door HOPING to be abused, because that gives them more heaven-points. 30

[Shodan]

Originally Posted by Czarcasm

Well, Shodan?
Are you a Trump supporter, or are you just here for another of your self-aggrandizing hijacks?

I am here to make fun of you, mock your foolishness, and generally amuse myself at your expense.

So, now that I have answered your question, here's mine.

Are you

1. Stupid,
2. Very stupid,
3. Hypocritical and stupid, or
4. Frustrated that your favored sexual companion had to go to the vet, and you are reduced to making romantic overtures to the furniture?

Don't take too much time about this - someone has to Photoshop the Nancy Pelosi/Gilbert Gottfried slashfic.

Regards,
Shodan 31

[Czarcasm]

Originally Posted by Shodan

I am here to make fun of you, mock your foolishness, and generally amuse myself at your expense.

So, now that I have answered your question, here's mine.

Are you

1. Stupid,
2. Very stupid,
3. Hypocritical and stupid, or
4. Frustrated that your favored sexual companion had to go to the vet, and you are reduced to making romantic overtures to the furniture?

Don't take too much time about this - someone has to Photoshop the Nancy Pelosi/Gilbert Gottfried slashfic.

Regards,
Shodan

So-you're a troll.
That makes this decision easy.

Buh bye. 32

[octopus]

Originally Posted by Euphonious Polemic

Fucking ignorant troll does not know the meaning of the word "socialism". What a shock.

You're not technically a human being either.

Troll? Hit the report button dummy. If you are correct I will be banned otherwise it's proof you are just another instance dishonest scum floating in the pit.

And since Sanders calls himself a socialist forgive me if I don't use the super-duper precise historic meaning of the word. I'm sure you call yourself liberal when you have nothing in common with classic liberalism. 33

[Unreconstructed Man]

Originally Posted by Euphonious Polemic

Fucking ignorant troll does not know the meaning of the word "socialism". What a shock.

You're not technically a human being either.

Bernie self identifies as a Democratic Socialist, does he not? 34

[octopus]

Originally Posted by Czarcasm

So-you're a troll.
That makes this decision easy.

Buh bye.

Czarcasm, in addition to lacking any integrity, you are cowardly. Sad. 35

[Czarcasm]

Originally Posted by Unreconstructed Man

Bernie self identifies as a Democratic Socialist, does he not?

Hi, and welcome to this thread.
Are you a Trump supporter? 36

[CaptMurdock]

Originally Posted by octopus

I’m not technically a Trump supporter though I may have to be in 2020 if Sanders or another socialist gets the (D) nomination. That said I do have to ask if you folks on the left are beginning to embrace the newly discovered 9th and 10th amendments now?

Okay, I'll bite...

What in the seven sons of Sam Hill do the 9th and 10th Amendments have to do with Trump openly flouting the law??

Originally Posted by Shodan

You misspelled "megadittos".
I'm sure glad no one here calls me vermin, insect, piece of shit, racist, Nazi, self-serving shithole, etc.

The SDMB - where self-parody goes beyond, into performance art.

Regards,
Shodan

Wow. First post I've seen from you in days, and this is what you Crazy-Glued your balls back on to post?? I'd ask you to consider that if you weren't a coward of such great degree, maybe you wouldn't be named all those things you mentioned. But that would engender a level of introspection that I just don't think you possess.

Y'know, at least Bricker has the sense -- and the class -- to quietly slink away.

Expectorations,
CaptMurdock 37

[octopus]

Originally Posted by Unreconstructed Man

Bernie self identifies as a Democratic Socialist, does he not?

Don't confuse the simple with facts. The cognitive dissonance is dangerous. 38

[Bryan Ekers]

Originally Posted by octopus

That said I do have to ask if you folks on the left are beginning to embrace the newly discovered 9th and 10th amendments now?

Well, I've newly discovered that you can count that high, which leads to a slight improvement in my opinion of you. 39

[Unreconstructed Man]

Originally Posted by Czarcasm

Hi, and welcome to this thread.
Are you a Trump supporter?

Lol! No. Trump’s a piece of shit. I’d take any Democrat candidate over him. 40

[Czarcasm]

Originally Posted by Unreconstructed Man

Lol! No. Trump’s a piece of shit. I’d take any Democrat candidate over him.

It's just that you seemed a little unsure as to what this thread was about. Carry on. 41

[Euphonious Polemic]

Originally Posted by Unreconstructed Man

Bernie self identifies as a Democratic Socialist, does he not?

If you don't know the difference you should probably just shut up now and avoid embarrassment.

P.S. And please don't start telling me that Hitler was a socialist just like Bernie. 42

[Unreconstructed Man]

Originally Posted by Czarcasm

It's just that you seemed a little unsure as to what this thread was about.

Well, octopus said he’d vote for Trump over Bernie or another socialist and EP said octopus didn’t know what a socialist was. As someone who likes Bernie largely because he’s a socialist, I was just like “Umm...hang on a sec”.

But yeah, this is all just a tangent. Forget I said anything. 43

[Czarcasm]

More than once on this board the question has been asked of Trump supporters: What is the minimum Trump could do to cause you to oppose him?
Care to guess what the few responses were? 44

[Euphonious Polemic]

Originally Posted by Czarcasm

More than once on this board the question has been asked of Trump supporters: What is the minimum Trump could do to cause you to oppose him?
Care to guess what the few responses were?

- Ban guns?
- Be nice to minorities? 45

[Czarcasm]

Originally Posted by Unreconstructed Man

But yeah, this is all just a tangent. Forget I said anything.

Truth to tell it wasn't that big a tangent-more like a tange-rine. 46

[Czarcasm]

Originally Posted by Euphonious Polemic

- Ban guns?
- Be nice to minorities?

At least those would be honest answers. 47

[Euphonious Polemic]

Originally Posted by Unreconstructed Man

Well, octopus said he’d vote for Trump over Bernie or another socialist and EP said octopus didn’t know what a socialist was. As someone who likes Bernie largely because he’s a socialist, I was just like “Umm...hang on a sec”.

But yeah, this is all just a tangent. Forget I said anything.

Apologies. I am just sick and tired of so many folks bleating "SOCIALIST!! OMG!!!" without the faintest notion of what the term means other than "Something I am scared of because I've been told to be".

I suppose I'm a tad sensitive. 48

[Unreconstructed Man]

No problem 49

[Velocity]

Does anybody here on the SDMB actually self-identify as a Trump supporter? Everytime we had "questions for Trump supporters," the vast majority of such posts weren't from Trumpers, but from people trying to project or guess what Trumpers think. Person A accusing B of supporting Trump is vastly different than B actually proclaiming his support of Trump. 50