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At what point did you decide that there is no difference between right and wrong?
As I recall it was right about the same time that the right lined up and bent over for Trump.
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Old 10-05-2019, 10:13 PM
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That's standard fascist tactics, as old as the movement itself. They don't care in the slightest about consistency or any type of principle, only about "winning". They'll knowingly contradict themselves with a smile because it throws a wrench into the normal rules of conversation and debate, both enraging their opponents and often causing those opponents to be punished by moderators if their are any in that medium.
If a debate cause one to become enraged and unhinged perhaps that person should stay away from debates or other conversations where a difference of opinion might be offered? Society is safer that way.
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Old 10-05-2019, 10:15 PM
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I support him
Trampsters don't seem to mind rampant corruption and blatant bribe-taking; inciting violence against political non-toadies and other US citizens; the "tariff king" unilaterally raising taxes on most Americans; denying saying what he was just recorded saying; and outright treason as Constitutionally defined. You're okay with that?

I'll repeat what I asked a few posts back.

> Tramp has bragged of obstruction, said he wanted to fuck his underage daughter, said good Nazis and KKK'rs exist, and "confiscate guns now; due process later." Don't forget the crocodile-filled border moat. A simple question: You're okay with this?

I do not judge Trampsters' intelligence or morality. I doubt their sanity.
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Old 10-05-2019, 10:32 PM
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If a debate cause one to become enraged and unhinged perhaps that person should stay away from debates or other conversations where a difference of opinion might be offered? Society is safer that way.
Hey, Mr. tolerance & temperance, you feel safe with this kind of "society"?

Why don't you engage your brain before you run your dumbass mouth. Ass-clown.
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Old 10-05-2019, 10:42 PM
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What the fuck stupid shit is “self-identify” lmfao

You overly emotional weirdos keep regurgitating that phrase and it is cringe as hell.
Self-identify as in "being ingenuous about who you are"?
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Old 10-05-2019, 10:46 PM
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I support him

1.)No, but those are a nice change of pace.
2.)No, there are twenty difference liberal news outlets and maybe 2 conservative, I get my news from the left for the most part (some is much more true to "News" than others), and do some fact checking. Much of the complaints turn out to be projection of their own insecurities, hypocrisy, hyperbole or just baseless. If it is, I take note and scale it, keeping an eye out and ear open to see if it gets worse. I don't care about politicians personal lives as much as what they do.
3.)I don't hate anyone.
4.) 138 IQ, A decade ago, so I've improved.
5.) When I have to be, or when it get results. Generally I like to be fair to everyone and give them a fair shake. I only give a second chance, not a third, or fourth+

Outside of stereotypes, most righties I've known are the same.
You've had your fair shake as far as I'm concerned. If any of the rest of you want to give the regurgitator of right-wing talking points a second, third or fourth chance be my guest.
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Old 10-05-2019, 11:25 PM
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And since Sanders calls himself a socialist forgive me if I don't use the super-duper precise historic meaning of the word. I'm sure you call yourself liberal when you have nothing in common with classic liberalism.
When someone self-identifies as a Democratic Socialist, it is dishonest to characterize his statement as having called himself a socialist.
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Old 10-06-2019, 12:18 AM
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1.)No, but those are a nice change of pace.
2.)No, there are twenty difference liberal news outlets and maybe 2 conservative, I get my news from the left for the most part (some is much more true to "News" than others), and do some fact checking. Much of the complaints turn out to be projection of their own insecurities, hypocrisy, hyperbole or just baseless. If it is, I take note and scale it, keeping an eye out and ear open to see if it gets worse. I don't care about politicians personal lives as much as what they do.
3.)I don't hate anyone.
4.) 138 IQ, A decade ago, so I've improved.
Please, not impressed after years of seeing the ones that claim that while their blind spots are painfully there for all to see.

One big blind spot comes from not realizing how even the parameters of the discussion are changed by the very media one thinks one should rely on.

And while it could be easy for me (by experience) to use the example of climate change, the example of the Benghazi terrorist attack is one that we should look here as a test.

What do you think? Are you aware now about how the people from the right where manipulated to believe many things about that incident that had no basis in reality?

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/benghazi-bungle/

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/2012_Benghazi_attack
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Old 10-06-2019, 12:29 AM
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I know what it means but if a politician wants to refer to himself as a socialist I'm willing to oblige. I don't want to mis-ideology the guy.
Clearly, you DO.

Or maybe you’re just really bad at avoiding doing things that you “don’t want” to do.
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I support him

1.)No, but those are a nice change of pace.
2.)No, there are twenty difference liberal news outlets and maybe 2 conservative, I get my news from the left for the most part (some is much more true to "News" than others), and do some fact checking. Much of the complaints turn out to be projection of their own insecurities, hypocrisy, hyperbole or just baseless. If it is, I take note and scale it, keeping an eye out and ear open to see if it gets worse. I don't care about politicians personal lives as much as what they do.
3.)I don't hate anyone.
4.) 138 IQ, A decade ago, so I've improved.
5.) When I have to be, or when it get results. Generally I like to be fair to everyone and give them a fair shake. I only give a second chance, not a third, or fourth+

Outside of stereotypes, most righties I've known are the same.
OK, I'll play.

Is there anything Trump could do to lose your support?

are you OK with:
-Putting kids in cages?
-Putting people in concentration camps?
-Denouncing US intelligence while standing next to a hostile foreign Leader?
-Denying human influence on the climate, sabotaging efforts to do anything about it?
-Never, ever telling the truth about anything. (thousands of lies, about the dumbest things) Never, ever backing down from a lie, no matter how childish or inconsequential? cite
-Openly supporting alt-right/neo-nazi extremists?
-Putting in less hours than any other modern president?
-Profiting from forcing the secret service to stay at your own resorts?
-Running a completely criminal campaign. I believe everyone except Trump himself involved in his campaign is now behind bars. (Yes, this is a slight exaggeration. If you want to argue this you have lost sight of the bigger picture)

In my eyes every one of these points are disqualifying on their own. Presidents resigned over less. Yet you are OK with ALL of them. Why?

There is a longer list of stuff that would stop anyone's aspirations to public office.
- the scam that is "Trump University"
- The thing with Ms. Daniels (others are already behind bars for this).
- His remarks about his hot daughter.
- His self-aggrandizing lies about 9/11.
- The money he promised to 9/11 charities and never gave.


How does your head work?
-You somehow believe Trump over everybody else? All these points are made up? Trump is not a scumbag? (And the earth is flat?)
-You don't care. He's sticking it to the libs! (never mind he's robbing you all blind)

I cannot imagine how your thought process works. We know all of these points to be true (there is fucking video and signed affidavits) yet you "support him".

What did he do for you? I hope he's already done it 'cause he's not real good with keeping promises.
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Add Trump Steaks, Trump Vodka and using Chinese steel instead of Pennsylvania steel to build Trump Tower to that list. Oh, and class action suits never resolved in Atlantic City during the Taj Mahal days. The guy is the absolute worst real-estate businessman in American history.
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Old 10-06-2019, 04:03 AM
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Old 10-06-2019, 08:00 AM
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There is a longer list of stuff that would stop anyone's aspirations to public office.
- the scam that is "Trump University"
- The thing with Ms. Daniels (others are already behind bars for this).
- His remarks about his hot daughter.
- His self-aggrandizing lies about 9/11.
- The money he promised to 9/11 charities and never gave.
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Also re the emphasized part above, Trump bribed the Florida State DA to stop her investigations into Trump 'University'. If that's not bad enough, he used Trump Foundation money to do so. Not a bribe some will say It's still a violation of federal rules preventing foundations from donating to political candidates. But I guess that's OK, because...

Republicans would be having cats if a Democrat did this. Hypocrisy is a republican way of life.
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Add Trump Steaks, Trump Vodka and using Chinese steel instead of Pennsylvania steel to build Trump Tower to that list. Oh, and class action suits never resolved in Atlantic City during the Taj Mahal days. The guy is the absolute worst real-estate businessman in American history.
The list is a LOT longer than that. But we should probably stick to his outright criminal activity. Being a shitty business man is not illegal, although some of his deals most surely are.
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I've never supported Trump; I just didn't want to see Hillary Clinton push her gun ban agenda. That said, trolling the butthurt snowflakes is hysterically funny.
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Add Trump Steaks, Trump Vodka and using Chinese steel instead of Pennsylvania steel to build Trump Tower to that list. Oh, and class action suits never resolved in Atlantic City during the Taj Mahal days. The guy is the absolute worst real-estate businessman in American history.
Add throwing our long term allies the Kurds under the bus. In a move that even Lindsay Graham said:

“This impulsive decision by the president has undone all the gains we've made, thrown the region into further chaos,” he said, adding: “I hope I'm making myself clear how shortsighted and irresponsible this decision is in my view.”

That's OK though? Screwing our allies, destabilizing the region and making the world a better place for ISIS is OK as long as Trump does it?
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Trump bribed the Florida State DA to stop her investigations into Trump 'University'.
Actually FL Attorney General Pam Bondi. The price was $25K, if you're keeping score.
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Ha ha! Sure Trump just supported ISIS, but look how that triggered the snowflake libs! That's all I care about!
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Actually FL Attorney General Pam Bondi. The price was $25K, if you're keeping score.
Thanks for the correction. I wonder how she feels about her price being less than that of a porn star?
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I think we had a thread or two near the beginning about what it would take for Trump supporters on this board to not support him any more. If anyone with better Google Fu than I can locate these threads it would be much appreciated...and by "much appreciated" I mean "the beer is on me the next time you are in Portland."
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I've never supported Trump; I just didn't want to see Hillary Clinton push her gun ban agenda. That said, trolling the butthurt snowflakes is hysterically funny.
Yeah, those Kurdish snowflakes sure had that coming to them. Hysterical, indeed.
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Yeah, those Kurdish snowflakes sure had that coming to them. Hysterical, indeed.
They aren't white, so fuck'em.
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No, my gotcha is the fact that Democrats colluded with Russia in order to collect political dirt on their opponents, paid them millions of dollars, and all they got in return was fake dossier, so laughably fake, even rags like NY Times refused to publish it.
Cite? Almost every syllable of your post seems like nonsense; I'm sincerely curious what craven site you concocted it from.

Don't be shy. If the relevant Alex Jones YouTubes have been taken down, just say so.
Did Northeast Troll ever come up with anything? Is he waiting for instructions from the Kremlin before he responds?
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I've never supported Trump; I just didn't want to see Hillary Clinton push her gun ban agenda. That said, trolling the butthurt snowflakes is hysterically funny.
Every Democrat president supposedly had a "gun ban agenda." Nobody's guns were taken away. Certain accessories were made illegal to sell, which impacted about a cunt hair's worth of firearms owners. What makes you think Hilary could have rounded up the guns? Really, I'd like to know.
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What's there to reveal? DNC and Clinton campaign funneled millions of dollars to Russian operatives to collect dirt on Clinton's political enemy. The return on their investment was so pathetic, that only Goebbels-like outlets like Buzzfeed and CNN decided to publish it, while even the hard-code leftist rag like NY Times refused to publish it.
Very interesting. Could you please cite your source(s) for this story?
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Very interesting. Could you please cite your source(s) for this story?
Sure, here ya go, buddy

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...bb9_story.html
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Sorry, nope. From 3 months later:

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For its investigation into Trump, Fusion was initially hired in the fall of 2015 by the conservative Washington Free Beacon website. The publication is backed by billionaire GOP donor Paul Singer, who was then supporting Sen. Marco Rubio (Fla.) in the GOP primary.

The Post revealed in October that Fusion was paid, via a law firm, by the Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee for its work on the dossier.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/inves...af1_story.html

If you're capable of quoting WaPo from October, 2017, surely you're capable of reading the correction made 2 months later?
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Every Democrat president supposedly had a "gun ban agenda."
Pretty much, yeah.

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Because gun owners have militantly fought tooth and nail to prevent it.

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What makes you think Hilary could have rounded up the guns? Really, I'd like to know.
Could have? Perhaps not (see above again). Would have if it were possible? Damn right.

My position? Don't blame me for anything Trump has done; this is what you pushed us to.

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... My position? Don't blame me for anything Trump has done; this is what you pushed us to.
This is why many of us regard Trump voters as ... [checks forum] ... despicably asinine jackasses.
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My position? Don't blame me for anything Trump has done; this is what you pushed us to.
It's not *my* fault I beat my wife. She pushed me to do it when she threatened to take my toys away. Ok, she didn't actually say she was going to, but I knew she was gonna. And for good measure, I alienated all our friends.
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Pretty much, yeah.

Because gun owners have militantly fought tooth and nail to prevent it.

See above.

Could have? Perhaps not (see above again). Would have if it were possible? Damn right.

My position? Don't blame me for anything Trump has done; this is what you pushed us to.
If you are not responsible for how you vote, why don't you stay the fuck home on Election Day and let us adults handle it, okey dokey?
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Really? "You made me"

That's it? That's all you have at this point?

Good lord. I imagine even you are a little embarrassed by this.
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Sorry, nope. From 3 months later:



https://www.washingtonpost.com/inves...af1_story.html

If you're capable of quoting WaPo from October, 2017, surely you're capable of reading the correction made 2 months later?
Jeebus, the Russian trolls are getting desperate, because their favorite stooge lost the Elections...
Surely, you understand that there's nothing in this correction that contradicts in any way, shape or form the fact reported by WaPo earlier, namely that Clinton campaign and DNC colluded with Russia, by funneling millions of dollars to Russian operatives to dig up dirt on their political opposition?
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When did Lumpy change into a total obtuse jackass? Alien brain infestation or something?
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Jeebus, the Russian trolls are getting desperate, because their favorite stooge lost the Elections...
Surely, you understand that there's nothing in this correction that contradicts in any way, shape or form the fact reported by WaPo earlier, namely that Clinton campaign and DNC colluded with Russia, by funneling millions of dollars to Russian operatives to dig up dirt on their political opposition?
The right wing desperation is quite funny.
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Jeebus, the Russian trolls are getting desperate, because their favorite stooge lost the Elections...
Surely, you understand that there's nothing in this correction that contradicts in any way, shape or form the fact reported by WaPo earlier, namely that Clinton campaign and DNC colluded with Russia, by funneling millions of dollars to Russian operatives to dig up dirt on their political opposition?

Reality and Truth are both foreign languages to you, aren't they? What the hey, you'll be gone soon, though, so I guess that really doesn't matter.
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I've never supported Trump; I just didn't want to see Hillary Clinton push her gun ban agenda. That said, trolling the butthurt snowflakes is hysterically funny.
So in other words... You support that orange traitor thief bastard but don't have the balls to admit it.
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Yeah, those Kurdish snowflakes sure had that coming to them. Hysterical, indeed.
It is ONCE AGAIN, exactly what Putin wants. And it FURTHER enhances HIS standing by telling ALL our allies they can never trust us, ever again.
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Pretty much, yeah.

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My position? Don't blame me for anything Trump has done; this is what you pushed us to.
We made you do it? What a pussy answer.
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When the "LOCK HER UP!! LOCK HER UP!!" gang bitches that they HAD to vote for Trump because we didn't talk nicey nicey to them, it is time to tell them to shove it sideways.
This. But they were nasty before that. Fuck 'em.
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No, you the puppet! YOU THE PUPPET!

My God, you people are funny. Go back and try again.
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My position? Don't blame me for anything Trump has done; this is what you pushed us to.

I was not in the voting booth with you. You voted for him all based on your own desire to have him president. That's what it means when you vote for someone.

I voted for Ms. Clinton. And I did so with an absentee ballot posted from China. It costs me money, time, energy, and more effort than you had to expend to cast my vote in a state that is overwhelmingly republican. But nobody forced me to vote in the way I did.

And nobody forced you to vote the way you did. You wanted Trump as president and you got what you wanted. Happy now?
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Thank God I don't have to give a shit what any of you think about anything. Suck my dripping syphilitic cock.
Wow. The self-loathing just oozes out of this post, like the pus dripping out of your flaccid dick.
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Thank God I don't have to give a shit what any of you think about anything. Suck my dripping syphilitic cock.
Your wife/girlfriend is a lucky gal.
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Thank God I don't have to give a shit what any of you think about anything. Suck my dripping syphilitic cock.
Hurt feelings, snowflake? "Fuck your feelings." Sound familiar?

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