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Old 03-07-2019, 12:37 AM
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OK so I suppose it’s you guys that have led Google to AUTOFILL “underwear” when I just entered “tactical “?
I was just curious as to which side they were putting the velcro on. Gear can't be tactical without velcro, everyone knows that.
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Old 03-07-2019, 09:35 AM
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I was just curious as to which side they were putting the velcro on. Gear can't be tactical without velcro, everyone knows that.
Which side do you *want* it on?
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Old 03-08-2019, 06:47 AM
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There may be a little room for doubt, pending confirmation, but really:
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Two court security officers sustained nonlife-threatening injuries Thursday during “routine firearms qualifications” at Boston police’s firing range ... Authorities wouldn’t say if the injuries were gunshot related.
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Old 03-08-2019, 02:21 PM
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Dylan Ruffin, age 26, was arrested in Johnson County, Kansas for firing a rifle into an elementary school where children were present and pointing his gun at police when they arrived to arrest him. Note that he's white, and therefore wasn't shot down on the spot.
He is about to be released from jail on $500,000 bail.
Mister Ruffin's grandfather is Phil Ruffin, co-owner of the Trump International Las Vegas hotel and a major contributor to Individual 1 (Individual 1 was the best man at Phil's wedding in 2008).
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/cri...06-story.html?

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Old 03-08-2019, 02:36 PM
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How the hell does he not get shot when pointing an actual gun at police?
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Old 03-08-2019, 02:37 PM
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Good question. Maybe it's because he's Phil's grandson.

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Old 03-08-2019, 02:48 PM
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How the hell does he not get shot when pointing an actual gun at police?
He was. He survived.

usnews.com/news/best-states/kansas/articles/2019-03-02/police-id-man-who-exchanged-gunfire-with-kansas-officers
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Old 03-08-2019, 02:52 PM
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He was. He survived.

usnews.com/news/best-states/kansas/articles/2019-03-02/police-id-man-who-exchanged-gunfire-with-kansas-officers
Well, that's something at least. Not sure why they didn't put 20 bullets into him.
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Old 03-08-2019, 02:56 PM
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Well, that's something at least. Not sure why they didn't put 20 bullets into him.
Probably because white people don't have that innate fury - you need to shoot the black man more often so he doesn't continue to attack you with his cell phone.

Plus, you can never tell which black folks are on the drugs.
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Old 03-09-2019, 01:10 AM
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Here's one for the Guns are wonderful, give me a hard-on and make me very very happy thread, but I'll save a click and post it here.

A Boulder Colorado black man was apprehended for collecting trash in his own front yard. The black presented ID but apparently was too sassy because, despite that he now knew the black's innocence, the cop called for backup. Soon the black was surrounded by eight cops, all with their hands on their guns, insisting that the black drop his "weapons" (a bucket and tong for collecting trash). The story ended up as a triumph for gun lovers: despite his sassiness the black didn't even lose his life!

One must admire the courage of these cops who outnumbered the "suspect" only 8 to 1. With such atrocious odds, who'd have blamed them for emptying their magazines into the thug as a defensive precaution? And we should be grateful there were eight cops available to face down the bucket wielder: If only five or six cops had turned up the risk might have been too great not to go for a kill.
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Old 03-11-2019, 03:18 PM
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Here's a fun one (from Europe): French policewoman shot and killed by colleague during 'gun-drawing game'

"The 27-year-old woman and her fellow officer were reportedly playing a game to see who could draw their weapons faster. One of the guns accidentally went off, striking the unnamed woman in the head and killing her"

Morons.
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Old 03-11-2019, 06:58 PM
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Accidentally went off? try pulled the trigger.

Stupid Stupid Stupid

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Old 03-12-2019, 05:53 AM
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I guess the other officer won.
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Old 03-12-2019, 06:32 AM
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One must admire the courage of these cops who outnumbered the "suspect" only 8 to 1. With such atrocious odds, who'd have blamed them for emptying their magazines into the thug as a defensive precaution? And we should be grateful there were eight cops available to face down the bucket wielder: If only five or six cops had turned up the risk might have been too great not to go for a kill.
Cop 1, "I was in fear for my life!"

Cop 2, "I was in fear for my life!"

Cop 3, "I was in fear for MY life!"

Cop 4, "I WAS in fear for my life!"

etc.

Voice in the back, "Yah, me too!"

Cop, "Jerry? But you were on the dispatch desk."

Voice in the back, "But I was!"
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Old 03-12-2019, 08:19 AM
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Well, once someone fired, the police had no way to know if the perp was shooting at them or one of the cops had fired. So, at that point, they really had no choice but to take him down with extreme prejudice.
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'Cause if he didn't, the other officers would think he was a pussy.
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(35y/o Justin) Carters' mother, Cindy McClellan, told Fox News her son was filming a music video in Houston, Texas, on Saturday when a gun in his pocket "went off and caught my son in the corner of his eye. He was a wonderful artist. He was the voice, he was the total package and we're trying to keep his legend [alive]."

Carter leaves behind two young daughters, Dixie and Kaylee.
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Old 03-22-2019, 05:09 AM
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"A gun in his pocket". How many of the deaths and woundings in this thread could have been prevented if people just kept their guns in holsters?
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Old 03-22-2019, 07:09 AM
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"A gun in his pocket". How many of the deaths and woundings in this thread could have been prevented if people just kept their guns in holsters?
If you keep your gun in a holster it might take a microsecond longer to get it out when the really bad shit that happens hourly in America goes down that necessitates carrying a gun around.
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Old 03-22-2019, 08:55 AM
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Thoughts and prayers for this American hero. He died defending our rights.
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Old 03-22-2019, 09:07 AM
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"A gun in his pocket". How many of the deaths and woundings in this thread could have been prevented if people just kept their guns in holsters?
What? Next you are going to say that putting it in his couch cushions when he gets home isn't a safe way to store it either.
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Old 03-22-2019, 11:06 AM
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What? Next you are going to say that putting it in his couch cushions when he gets home isn't a safe way to store it either.
Hey now - I just watched Jason Statham's The Mechanic, and Ben Foster's life was saved because of storing a pistol in the sofa. So it can happen!
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Old 03-22-2019, 11:24 AM
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Tragic, of course, but I cannot imagine how a gun in a pocket can shoot you in the head, unless it is barrel-up in your shirt pocket.
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Old 03-22-2019, 12:32 PM
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Maybe it was in the side pocket of his jacket and it got shifted around while he was fumbling for a guitar pick or something. Of course it was loaded and ready to fire, because what good is a gun if you are not ready to squeeze a shot off the instant you get in you hand.
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Tragic, of course, but I cannot imagine how a gun in a pocket can shoot you in the head, unless it is barrel-up in your shirt pocket.
Or your head's up your ass.
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Old 03-22-2019, 01:30 PM
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"A gun in his pocket". How many of the deaths and woundings in this thread could have been prevented if people just kept their guns in holsters?
That's just crazy liberal gun-grabber talk there, mister.
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Old 03-22-2019, 02:01 PM
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That's just crazy liberal gun-grabber talk there, mister.
No shit! Keep your fucking hands off my pocket pistols!!! 2nd Amendment guarantees my right to blast my head off reaching for my Chapstick.
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Old 03-22-2019, 06:33 PM
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Sydney Aiello, survivor of the Marjorie Stoneman Douglas incident, has blown her brains out, apparently due to survivor's guilt and PTSD.
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Old 03-22-2019, 07:17 PM
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Tragic, of course, but I cannot imagine how a gun in a pocket can shoot you in the head, unless it is barrel-up in your shirt pocket.
There's no way of knowing just how many "accidental" self-shootings were simply described that way to help the family cope, or to protect the public image of the victim. But it has to be more than zero.
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Old 03-22-2019, 07:22 PM
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There's no way of knowing just how many "accidental" self-shootings were simply described that way to help the family cope, or to protect the public image of the victim. But it has to be more than zero.
This is what I think whenever I see "man accidentally shoots himself while cleaning his gun" stories.
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Old 03-22-2019, 07:50 PM
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Gail Zeharalis, a representative for the Indiana State Teachers Association (ISTA), testified about the incident at an Indiana Senate hearing Wednesday, RTV6 reported. "During active shooter drill, four teachers at a time were taken into a room, told to crouch down and were shot execution style with some sort of projectiles—resulting in injuries to the extent that welts appeared, and blood was drawn" … Two anonymous teachers confirmed what happened to the Indianapolis Star. "They told us, 'This is what happens if you just cower and do nothing," one of the teachers said. "They shot all of us across our backs. I was hit four times."
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I heard that story. I don't understand why the teachers went along with it.
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Old 03-23-2019, 10:15 AM
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I heard that story. I don't understand why the teachers went along with it.
It is an echo of the Stanford experiment.
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I heard that story. I don't understand why the teachers went along with it.
It's really not all that different from fire drills where they set the teachers on fire to show what happens if they just cower and do nothing.

At least the tornado drills are more fun.

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Old 04-12-2019, 01:59 PM
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Why are the parents not charged for something?

Georgia girl, 6, dies after brother accidentally shoots her in head, police say
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I think they're suffering enough.
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Thoughts&Prayers. . . . Next!
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Old 04-12-2019, 03:01 PM
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"Wasn't it God's plan that she got shot in the first place?"
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I think they're suffering enough.
So, the penalty for recklessly endangering your children and indirectly causing one of them to die should be to feel real bad about it?
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So, the penalty for recklessly endangering your children and indirectly causing one of them to die should be to feel real bad about it?
Yep. If by "feel real bad about it" you mean "totally destroy their lives."

It was an accident, not intentional. There's little the courts can do to punish the parents further, and there's no likely rehabilitation since the parents recently learned to change their ways in the most devastating way possible.

There's not even any point in making an example of them--that was accomplished when the brother killed the sister. That their own child might die is a far more worrisome deterrent to others than whatever fine or brief jail time might be incurred.
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Yep. If by "feel real bad about it" you mean "totally destroy their lives."

It was an accident, not intentional. There's little the courts can do to punish the parents further, and there's no likely rehabilitation since the parents recently learned to change their ways in the most devastating way possible.

There's not even any point in making an example of them--that was accomplished when the brother killed the sister. That their own child might die is a far more worrisome deterrent to others than whatever fine or brief jail time might be incurred.
Bullshit!!
That gun did not accidentally fall into the glove compartment, and it did not accidentally load itself, and it was not accidentally left unsecured.

edited to add: Is it an accident when a drunk driver kills innocent people?

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Bullshit!!
That gun did not accidentally fall into the glove compartment, and it did not accidentally load itself, and it was not accidentally left unsecured.
Sure you used enough exclamation points?

You might want to look up accident. Nobody intended for the girl to be shot.

Were the parents negligent? Sure. But there's no point in punishing them further. It doesn't hurt them more than they've been hurt, it doesn't help the victim or society, and it doesn't even send a useful message.
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and it doesn't even send a useful message.
Pretty sure you are wrong about that point. It sends a message that may prevent a future 'accident'.

And now for hypothetical. Would they have 'suffered enough' if their son had shot and killed someone else's kid? If not, why?
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Sure you used enough exclamation points?

You might want to look up accident. Nobody intended for the girl to be shot.

Were the parents negligent? Sure. But there's no point in punishing them further. It doesn't hurt them more than they've been hurt, it doesn't help the victim or society, and it doesn't even send a useful message.
It would send a message that these fake "accidents" will no longer be tolerated just because they involve the use of a gun.
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Pretty sure you are wrong about that point. It sends a message that may prevent a future 'accident'.
A stronger message than Your child will die?

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It would send a message that these fake "accidents" will no longer be tolerated just because they involve the use of a gun.
Ah, so it's just the gun thing that's got you all het up. Kids die by guns, cars, insecticides, electricity, drowning, and falls all the time due to parental negligence. Are all of those fake "accidents" too?
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A stronger message than Your child will die?



Ah, so it's just the gun thing that's got you all het up. Kids die by guns, cars, insecticides, electricity, drowning, and falls all the time due to parental negligence. Are all of those fake "accidents" too?
Just the ones due to criminal negligence.
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Just the ones due to criminal negligence.
DAs, courts, and juries frequently find that the parents in such cases have suffered sufficiently and decline to punish them further.
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DAs, courts, and juries frequently find that the parents in such cases have suffered sufficiently and decline to punish them further.
Thoughts and prayers.
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Hardly.
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A stronger message than Your child will die?
So that maybe the next idiot wont have to actually bury a kid to get that painfully obvious message.
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