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Old 05-14-2019, 01:09 AM
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Is there a procedure word in any voice communication protocol for 'change of subject within a turn'?


Voice (mostly: radio) communication protocols have a number of terms for metacommunication, e.g. 'out' for end of conversation, 'over' for end of turn, 'say again' to indicate the last turn has not been understood etc.

What I notice in ordinary conversation is that we expect consecutive statements in a turn to be somehow related, and are confused when they are just intended to be consecutive "I got a decent pay rise today. We are low on toilet paper and I will go to the supermarket after dinner."

Is there any word/phrase used in an established protocol to indicate "the preceding and the following statement are not related"?

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The word you are looking for is "break".

List of Procedure Words:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Procedure_word

I got a decent pay rise today.
Break.
We are low on toilet paper and I will go to the supermarket after dinner.

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Old 05-14-2019, 11:02 AM
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Yup, “break break” is used by ATC when promptly switching to talk to a different aircraft.

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ETA: you hear it quite a bit in busy airspace, at least in the UK
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Old 05-14-2019, 04:11 PM
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In formal debate, they used to call it a "digression," as in, "If I may digress."

The debater lost points if they digressed without announcing it first.

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Yup, “break break” is used by ATC when promptly switching to talk to a different aircraft.
So ‚break break‘ means „The following addresses a different aircraft“ while ‚break‘ means „I am still talking to you, but the following is about an unrelated subject“?

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Old 05-16-2019, 06:34 PM
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I'll admit I haven't exercised the privileges of my pilot's license for a few years. But in my experience, ATC just says "break." And it always means they're about to talk to another aircraft.
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Old 05-17-2019, 02:54 AM
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I'm fairly current (30 hours so far this year on my PPL).

"Break" would be used to address a different aircraft. As far as I know there's no specific terminology for a change of subject to the same aircraft, other than "then" or "and".

E.g. "Golf India Echo, proceed taxiway bravo then hold at Charlie". Or "Squawk 1234 and report downwind".

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