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Old 01-19-2018, 11:13 AM
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Unfortunately that means some random poster will have to pour over every entry and research them. It may be the best solution but it’s not a good one. In the case random poster would see that this actress had a bunch of articles written about her. He would have to know to look to see that she didn’t have a wiki page before her accident. Who is going to do that?

Notice I haven’t brought up an objection to Spanky Manikan? Unless you speak Tagalog he is hardly a celebrity. But in his own country he was so by our rules he counts. We don’t have a huge Philippine readership so chances are anyone who picked him only knew him from articles saying he was sick. But the way we’ve played the game he counts.
It doesn’t mean that “some random poster will have to pour over every entry and research them“. It augments already existing rules by
1) setting a deadline after which all names submitted are “celebrities”
2) allowing for open review by everyone in the game

If a submitted name does not pass either test, it’s not a celebrity. Simple, teally, and we all have a chance to review. If we don’t review, oh well, that submittal is a celebrity, and we play on.


ETA: And about Spanky Manikan, the open review phase, if that submittal is questioned, allows the submitter to defend his/her submittal.

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Old 01-19-2018, 11:22 AM
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Open review does happen. Sometimes it goes on for a while. Last year, there was an ongoing discussion about Abu Bakr al Baghdadi and whether he was actually dead. Before that, last year or the year before, there was a tussle over a college basketball player and whether she warranted celebrity status, which happened after she died. The whole point of this board is argument and discussion – the deadline idea sounds wrong to me because it would stifle that.
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Old 01-19-2018, 03:38 PM
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Perhaps rules 4 and 14 need revising:
Rule 4: If you have any questions about who is or is not a celebrity, feel free to post to the thread or PM me. This is why we include 3 alternates, so if a pick is designated to be invalid, your first alternate will be elevated to your list.

Rule 14: Determination of who is a celebrity will remain a subjective matter, but generally defined as "the person has some known presence in the form of a Wikipedia Page and/or notoriety in the news or such" and their fame or celebrity cannot be based solely on their having a terminal illness". Sole possession of a Wikipedia page will not constitute "celebrity". If questioned, the person who posted that individual may be required provide such evidence.

Questions may be raised about the appropriateness of a pick at any point after a list is posted, even after 1/1/18. Alternates picks play an important role, as "questionable" picks may be disqualified post-posting.
First (minor) suggestion is to group those rules together since they address who is/not a celebrity. Further, I suggest revising the rules to give a deadline, say 15 Jan, for anyone to question a submitted name, and then another deadline, perhaps three days after questioning or 15 Jan, whichever is later, to make the final determination.

That gives at least 15 days for this community to review, question, and determine celebrity status of any name on anyone’s list. Hopefully before said person dies, but that may not be avoidable.

I call it the Jessica Falkholt corollary.
Picks were made, a celebrity died, the pick was questioned, the Death Pool Maestro ruled "it's a celebrity" based on the person having "some known presence in the form of... notoriety in the news or such". Unless it is my own pick (in which case I would defer to Baker), I used the "how does it feel in my tummy" grading system (akin to international sporting judges in sports like figure skating or freestyle skiing), which is highly subjective, but quite consistent (just give it time).

Not sure what all the fuss is... notoriety in the news or such allows for a pretty wide definition of "celebrity" and we are not paying money or competing for a cash prize... if I recall, Rachm Qoch (in 2009) listed 13 political prisoners no one had ever heard of, but they were all in prison on a hunger strike... luckily, none died, thus, ending his reign...

It's a game, and I think we are on equal level with the NFL in defining "exactly what is a catch", so lets' move on...
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Old 01-19-2018, 04:05 PM
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... if I recall, Rachm Qoch (in 2009) listed 13 political prisoners no one had ever heard of, but they were all in prison on a hunger strike... luckily, none died, thus, ending his reign...
I wish RQ still played, even though he(?) was kicking our asses every year. It was fun to read his list at the beginning of the year, knowing those folks were near-certainly toast.
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Old 01-19-2018, 04:13 PM
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I wish RQ still played, even though he(?) was kicking our asses every year. It was fun to read his list at the beginning of the year, knowing those folks were near-certainly toast.
The man had a time machine. He was probably arrested...will be arrested...for violating some Universal Time Protocol.
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Old 01-19-2018, 04:53 PM
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Old 01-19-2018, 05:10 PM
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Picks were made, a celebrity died, the pick was questioned, the Death Pool Maestro ruled "it's a celebrity" based on the person having "some known presence in the form of... notoriety in the news or such". Unless it is my own pick (in which case I would defer to Baker), I used the "how does it feel in my tummy" grading system (akin to international sporting judges in sports like figure skating or freestyle skiing), which is highly subjective, but quite consistent (just give it time).

Not sure what all the fuss is... notoriety in the news or such allows for a pretty wide definition of "celebrity" and we are not paying money or competing for a cash prize... if I recall, Rachm Qoch (in 2009) listed 13 political prisoners no one had ever heard of, but they were all in prison on a hunger strike... luckily, none died, thus, ending his reign...

It's a game, and I think we are on equal level with the NFL in defining "exactly what is a catch", so lets' move on...
I remember that his picks pissed off a lot of people and may have led to some not playing the game anymore.

In this case it’s because the “notoriety in the news” came from the accident that ultimately killed her. But it’s your call I won’t bring it up again.

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Alison Shearmur, producer on the "Hunger Games" and "Rogue One," has died at 54 after a battle with lung cancer.

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It's a game, and I think we are on equal level with the NFL in defining "exactly what is a catch", so lets' move on...
But if the corpse doesn't manage to make one 'football move' after s/he dies, before fumbling a body part...
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Jim Rodford, founding member of Argent, long time bass player of the Kinks, and bass player of the reformed Zombies dead from a fall. Yes I’m aware he is a Zombie but it still counts.


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With the Cranberries singer, those are too many zombies popping up.
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Apparently Rodford was a reformed zombie. It's the orthodox that you have to watch out for.
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Old 01-21-2018, 10:48 AM
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Lots of deaths, none of them picks...
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Jazz trumpeter Hugh Masekela dies at 78.

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John Coleman, founder of the Weather Channel, died Saturday at 17 (unclaimed?) points.

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I thought he made lanterns and camp stoves.
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I had Ursula LeGuin on my lists the last several years. This year I decided not to play. I could've kept one of my favorite authors alive if I'd only known. RIP.

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Dammit. She was very, very good.
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“Collapsed in the street and died of hypothermia” ? How does that happen? No one ever happens by?
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I blame Sun Baby.
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Dallas Mayr, a self-proclaimed “a former actor, singer, teacher, literary agent, lumber salesman, and soda jerk” who wrote dozens of horror novels and short stories under the pen name Jack Ketchum, has died. His death was confirmed by his friend and webmaster Kevin Kovelant, who told the Associated Press (via The New York Times) that he died this morning. He had been battling cancer, according to horror site Bloody-Disgusting. He was 71.


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Lari White, country singer and actress (beginning and end of Cast Away) dead at 52.

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Mark E Smith of The Fall is no longer Living too Late.

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Old 01-24-2018, 11:08 PM
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Lari White, country singer and actress (beginning and end of Cast Away) dead at 52.

No takers for her or Mayr/Ketchum
Sad. I liked her character in that movie.
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Well, stop kicking that bucket, and give some of your picks a chance to.
We really need a Smilie for a standing ovation --------- I'd give you ten for that one!
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Old 01-26-2018, 10:02 AM
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Lari White, country singer and actress (beginning and end of Cast Away) dead at 52.
I remember her at the end of Castaway. It was the closing scene. But she was in the beginning of the movie? Where?
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^It's been a while since I've seen it, but IIRC she is seen near the beginning having a fight with and leaving her husband (or boyfriend?) and then mailing that package with the wings painted on it.
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