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Old 01-03-2018, 02:54 PM
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Now it's time for my "cut the cord" advice thread.


It's simple: TV does not mean a lot to me, and our $140.00/month DirecTV bill is too freakin' high. So I bought a Roku for Christmas, hooked it up, attached our Netflix and Amazon Prime accounts to it... now, what else should I do before I make the fateful call to ATT?

Goals: Save money.

Currently:

Internet Speed: 18Mbps/download.
Provider: ATT
"Cut the Cord" equipment already obtained: Roku, HD antenna

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Daughter: YouTube, Netflix (Already have)
Me: Eh, whatever. Movies are good. Some TV shows.
Wife: Local weather/news, BBC America

Questions:

1. Should my internet speed be faster? Assume three people, three-four devices.
2. Will ATT try to fuck me by charging me more for the internet when I disconnect the DirecTV? And how?
3. I'm agnostic towards ISP's. Any suggestions?
4. Are there any free streaming services I should be aware of?
5. What other equipment should I get? Remember: spending $1,500 to save $1,500 is not in the cards.
6. Other tips, tricks would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance!
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Old 01-03-2018, 02:59 PM
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1. Probably. Though see #2

2. Most definitely. Generally if you have TV and internet they'll say you have a 'bundle' and therefore you are uncoupling the bundle and your internet will cost more due to you paying the unbundled price.

4. Check out Sling TV, Hulu Live TV, Sling TV, DirectTV Now for 'skinny bundles' - most of them have most local channels, and the basics like ESPN, CNN, Food Network, etc.

5. You can also purchase an antenna for locals. If you want to record shows from them, a Tivo would come in hand.
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Old 01-04-2018, 12:44 PM
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2. Most definitely. Generally if you have TV and internet they'll say you have a 'bundle' and therefore you are uncoupling the bundle and your internet will cost more due to you paying the unbundled price.
Yeah. Unfortunately the only way to get the lowest prices on internet only service without a bundle is to be a brand new customer, otherwise they hit you with the "You're already a customer so those deals aren't available to you. Now I'll switch you over to our 'existing-customer-anal-rape-rate' for internet only." I have FiOS, not AT&T but I'd imagine they do the same shit. I can't even get them to tell me what my internet only price would be.
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If you pick up a streaming service you need to check if you have a data cap on your internet service. Overages can be deadly.

Most of the streaming services offer 7 day free trials. Use the service during the trial as you do your Direct TV and watch your data usage. If you’re streaming the occasional show you should be okay, but if it’s on from the time you get home until you go to bed you might be in trouble.

My wife and I are getting ready to cut the cord and we’ve tried out the services listed above plus one that hasn’t been mentioned—PS Vue. PS Vue has been my favorite so far.
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Old 01-03-2018, 10:23 PM
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I had a thread like this. I never cut the cord for this reason: I am addicted to the 24 hour news cycle. If there is a way to have my cake and eat it I'd love to know.
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I had a thread like this. I never cut the cord for this reason: I am addicted to the 24 hour news cycle. If there is a way to have my cake and eat it I'd love to know.
Hulu Live TV and Sling TV both have the major news channels available, I believe in their default packages.
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I had a thread like this. I never cut the cord for this reason: I am addicted to the 24 hour news cycle. If there is a way to have my cake and eat it I'd love to know.
Go ahead and cut it. A television is the WORST possible device for finding out about important things that are going on in the world.
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Old 01-03-2018, 11:26 PM
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If you are a tech type, you can download Plex. The Plex client goes on your Roku, and the Plex server goes on a computer. Add a network Over the Air tuner like a Silicon Dust HD Homerun and it can record every show available via an antenna.
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I got a free upgrade from Dish today for a HD receiver (only about 12 years overdue).

But, yeah. I should shit-can all of it. I'm a fucking couch potato now.
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Old 01-04-2018, 12:33 AM
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I got a free upgrade from Dish today for a HD receiver (only about 12 years overdue).

But, yeah. I should shit-can all of it. I'm a fucking couch potato now.
Exactly. Netflix gave me a month free. And now I am addicted.
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Old 01-04-2018, 09:40 AM
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$140/month? Hell, you're getting off easy. Comcast is raping me for about $230/mo. I need to dump some premium channels and HD, cuz upwards of $3,000/year for fucking TV/internet/phone is ridiculous.
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$140/month? Hell, you're getting off easy. Comcast is raping me for about $230/mo. I need to dump some premium channels and HD, cuz upwards of $3,000/year for fucking TV/internet/phone is ridiculous.
Same here. I was reviewing my accounts last month and couldn't believe cable & internet had gotten up to $250/mo with all the taxes and fees. (ETA: Sorry. $235/mo looking at the last bill. And we don't even get HBO or Showtime or any of that!)

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Old 01-05-2018, 11:15 AM
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$140/month? Hell, you're getting off easy. Comcast is raping me for about $230/mo. I need to dump some premium channels and HD, cuz upwards of $3,000/year for fucking TV/internet/phone is ridiculous.
I was paying that too. Went into the Comcast office two months ago and told them that I needed to reduce my bill by at least $50 a month because they were just seriously overpriced.

The woman there told me that if I paid money up front for the home security package (which consists of a controller, one camera and 3 window sensors), then dropped the monitoring you have to sign up for - after about 2 months - then I'd be paying $47 less a month.



So I give you a bunch of money up front for a useless system (I live in a third floor apartment with one window and one sliding glass door - no one is coming in them - oh, and I already own a webcam), then I'd save $3 a month LESS than I said I needed to drop this by?

FUCK YOU, COMCAST!

Had them cut my cable completely and just kept the internet. The $140 a month I'm NOT spending on them can pay for me to purchase all of the movies and TV shows I regularly watch (with a few exceptions) with lots of money remaining in my pocket.

The only one I was worried about is Doctor Who, and I can get the through my Amazon Prime account.
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Old 01-05-2018, 05:31 PM
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I was paying that too. Went into the Comcast office two months ago and told them that I needed to reduce my bill by at least $50 a month because they were just seriously overpriced.

The woman there told me that if I paid money up front for the home security package (which consists of a controller, one camera and 3 window sensors), then dropped the monitoring you have to sign up for - after about 2 months - then I'd be paying $47 less a month.



So I give you a bunch of money up front for a useless system (I live in a third floor apartment with one window and one sliding glass door - no one is coming in them - oh, and I already own a webcam), then I'd save $3 a month LESS than I said I needed to drop this by?

FUCK YOU, COMCAST!

Had them cut my cable completely and just kept the internet. The $140 a month I'm NOT spending on them can pay for me to purchase all of the movies and TV shows I regularly watch (with a few exceptions) with lots of money remaining in my pocket.

The only one I was worried about is Doctor Who, and I can get the through my Amazon Prime account.
I already have Hulu, Netflix, Amazon Prime, and use my son's VUDU account. I don't have a problem with waiting for the latest season of a show to finally make it to one of those services. We do like to watch the local pro basketball team and would miss that. I'm wondering what Comcast would whack me for just landline and internet.
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Old 01-04-2018, 09:55 AM
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Hook an antenna up to your TV to see what regular channels you can get. Often you'll get the networks and a lot of different sub channels. There are also websites you can use to enter your address and it'll tell you what channels it thinks you can get. Consider a DVR for the OTA channels, since it allows you to have a library of network shows that would otherwise be spotty to try to find over streaming. Tivo has the Roamio which does OTA recording with no subscription fee.

Hulu is good for streaming most network/cable content. They don't have everything, but they have a wide variety of on-demand content from the channels you're used to with satellite.

PlutoTV is a streaming channel which packages up other free streaming channels and gives you a channel guide like you already have with satellite. Obviously it's not all the same channels, but there are news channels, movie channels, sports, etc.

Many TV's have smart capabilities. They won't be as good as Roku, but it's a way of having streaming to other TVs as well.
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Hook an antenna up to your TV to see what regular channels you can get. Often you'll get the networks and a lot of different sub channels. There are also websites you can use to enter your address and it'll tell you what channels it thinks you can get. Consider a DVR for the OTA channels, since it allows you to have a library of network shows that would otherwise be spotty to try to find over streaming. Tivo has the Roamio which does OTA recording with no subscription fee.

Hulu is good for streaming most network/cable content. They don't have everything, but they have a wide variety of on-demand content from the channels you're used to with satellite.

PlutoTV is a streaming channel which packages up other free streaming channels and gives you a channel guide like you already have with satellite. Obviously it's not all the same channels, but there are news channels, movie channels, sports, etc.

Many TV's have smart capabilities. They won't be as good as Roku, but it's a way of having streaming to other TVs as well.

As broadcast tv gets more popular, the more sub channels are added and more variety of shows are added to the line ups. I travel for work all over the area counties and satellite dishes are disappearing and antennas going up

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$140/month? Hell, you're getting off easy. Comcast is raping me for about $230/mo. I need to dump some premium channels and HD, cuz upwards of $3,000/year for fucking TV/internet/phone is ridiculous.
Yeah, start adding up monthly costs and then talk about needing 24/7 tv anything. Why anyone would want to spend 1000+/- for tv....Get up and walk away from the tv if youre watching 24/7. Why is anyone addicted to that any more? Or should they?

I get news on the internet now. TV news is so warped anyway. You can get local news on broadcast and (inter)national news broadcast too. Anything else is available online. Internet pricing needs adjustment at some point in the future or now

We pay 39 a month now for internet. I need it for work so I can do away with that


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I can't live without PBS, TCM, and AMC. I just can't. Do any of these things provide these?
I loved those channels too. Lots and lots of PBS channels via antenna on the roof. TONS! We had to cut the cord. Cable/satellite tv is not what it used to be. When the history channel, discover channel etc dont play what the channel name suggests and 75% of the other channels are reality tv...makes ridiculous fees.


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Same here. I was reviewing my accounts last month and couldn't believe cable & internet had gotten up to $250/mo with all the taxes and fees. (ETA: Sorry. $235/mo looking at the last bill. And we don't even get HBO or Showtime or any of that!)
250 month makes 3000 a year????????????? OMG!


If living in the city, you can get many many channels with a simple cheap antenna but out here in the boonies bigger higher antennas are needed. Its a one time cost. Isnt there something else you could enjoy with 3k a year instead of giving it to some corporate giant??

I think cable and dish companies are getting their rude awakenings these days
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Old 01-08-2018, 01:11 PM
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I went to Comcast this morning and slashed all the premium channels off. I expected resistance, but they just said "sure thing". By doing this, I'm adding $1200 a year to my checking account, as my bill dropped from $276/mo to $176/mo. $35 of that is their bullshit fees and taxes. They did try to up-sell me with their home security package, included for free for two years. Problem with those kinds of offers is that after two years, they just start charging you for it, rather than asking if you want to continue. If my wife didn't insist on being able to watch the Blazers games, I could have slashed it to about $100/mo.

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You seem ready to go. I wouldn't spend anymore money until after you try it. The main streaming services you're already happy with plus an HD antenna will be enough while you think about what's missing. I started with Netflix and Amazon Prime, but added a live TV package from Hulu, mostly because it includes the local sports network, NBCSports for my region, so I can watch my local basketball and hockey teams.

You may need a faster connection, maybe not. I wouldn't increase it unless you have consistent issues with picture quality after cutting the cord.
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Old 01-04-2018, 12:29 PM
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The $140 was only for the DirectTV portion of my bill. Internet charges make the total higher, of course.

Thanks for the advice so far... keep it coming!

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The only thing on your list that requires something like Sling/PS Vue/Hulu Live is BBC America, and if your wife can wait, a lot of it ends up on Netflix and Amazon eventually.

I have a Roku, and subscribe to Netflix, Hulu, HBO Now, and I'm an Amazon Prime member. Those plus YouTube (there's a Roku app) and a $17 window antenna from Amazon gets me all the TV I need.
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Old 01-04-2018, 01:49 PM
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Regarding antennas for getting local stations: With a digital TV you will need a digital antenna, and there are a range of them, both indoor and outdoor - the ones I have both need electrical power. A tip we got from the people who delivered our new smart TV: connect the antenna to your home's existing coax network - then you can get local TV everywhere the cable TV used to be. Also, placement of the antenna is key - digital broadcasting is either 100% received, or not at all (if there is something obstructing the signal). You may need to fish around for the best spot and facing direction. Ours is in the garage and faces out a window - we get more local stations than I knew were around, plus some from the SF Bay Area.

We only have Hulu, Netflix, and Amazon Prime, plus local broadcasts. Sports fans will have to spend to get access akin to cable, but if sports are not critical, you can avoid that. A Tivo would be nice on occasion, but we have not sprung for that yet.
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Regarding antennas for getting local stations: With a digital TV you will need a digital antenna...
Untrue. Any VHF/UHF antenna will work. There is no such thing as a "digital antenna." The antenna I have on my roof is exactly the same one that I used for analog broadcasts. In most areas, all of the digital stations are actually on UHF, even if they have old VHF numbers as their identifier.
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Untrue. Any VHF/UHF antenna will work. There is no such thing as a "digital antenna." The antenna I have on my roof is exactly the same one that I used for analog broadcasts. In most areas, all of the digital stations are actually on UHF, even if they have old VHF numbers as their identifier.
Ah. Did not know that.
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To follow up, here is the antenna I have on my roof. It receives every digital channel in Kansas City. The six long elements are all VHF, and no longer serve any purpose. The rest of it is a UHF "corner reflector" - the short elements along the main "boom" passively guide the signal to the single short active element at the crux of the two sets of reflectors at a 45 degree angle to the boom.
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Here is the antenna I have on the window behind my tv: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00IF...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It’s thin, unobtrusive, took me 2 minutes to set up, and I get probably 20-30 live channels.
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I literally have a coat hanger hanging out of my window as an antenna and it works just fine for all the major OTA channels. Not that I watch them that much.
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My Mom & I have Acorn and Britbox. You might want one or the other (and we'll probably cancel Acorn soon, since there's a lot of overlap). They both include a lot of BBC programming, including stuff that didn't air in the US. I can't believe that I didn't know about Time Team until I saw it on Acorn one day.

You can sign up for them via Amazon.

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I can't live without PBS, TCM, and AMC. I just can't. Do any of these things provide these?
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PBS has their own streaming channel. All you have to do is sign on with your email and you'll have access to their on-demand content. Also, PBS is often available with an antenna. In addition to the main PBS channel, they probably also broadcast a handful of other PBS channels. I have 4 I can get over the air.
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I can't live without PBS, TCM, and AMC. I just can't. Do any of these things provide these?
Antenna for PBS and Sling/PS Vue etc for the others. PBS does have an app, but I’m not a fan. I can get two PBS channels with my antenna.
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For many series that aren't immediately put up on a service like Hulu, you can instead buy individual episodes from Amazon or other online streaming video stores. These episodes are typically available the day after broadcast. I've done this for several shows on BBC America, AMC, Syfy, etc.: Breaking Bad, The Expanse, Sherlock, Doctor Who, Planet Earth II...

The cost is typically $3/episode, and if you buy a season pass there's a modest discount (maybe 5-10%). If you're only interested in a handful of "must-watch" shows each year, it's much cheaper than cable or a channel-specific streaming service.

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While we're talking about streaming, what's a good setup for storing movies on a hard drive? They're all movies I own, but sometimes I'm just too darn lazy to walk over and pick one out and put it in the player. Is it possible to transfer them them to a hard drive and stream them to my TV, or is that too unwieldy? With external drives running about $25/TB it seems like a viable option. I'd need to store both Blu-rays and DVDs.
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While we're talking about streaming, what's a good setup for storing movies on a hard drive? They're all movies I own, but sometimes I'm just too darn lazy to walk over and pick one out and put it in the player. Is it possible to transfer them them to a hard drive and stream them to my TV, or is that too unwieldy? With external drives running about $25/TB it seems like a viable option. I'd need to store both Blu-rays and DVDs.
That's what I use Plex for. I have ripped hundreds of my DVDs and BluRays to a 4 terabyte hard drive and can access them from my Rokus, my computer and my phone.
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And to take this idea one further - you can connect with your friends on Plex. That would allow me to watch your video collection over the internet. I've used that to access my personal collection from a hotel room too.
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Look more into your Roku, there are a lot of channels with decent free TV and movies like Crackle and Vudu. Both have ads but that is the cost of free and it's not like you aren't paying for ads with satellite/cable.

As others have mentioned, Hulu is worthwhile and if you pay ~$12 a month there are no commercials except on a couple shows (out of hundreds.)
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Look more into your Roku, there are a lot of channels with decent free TV and movies like Crackle and Vudu. Both have ads but that is the cost of free and it's not like you aren't paying for ads with satellite/cable.
One disadvantage is that the ads on streaming are more annoying. Advertising on streaming isn't as popular, so services have a smaller pool of commercials to show. That means you may see the same commercial in every break or sometimes even multiple times in the same break. Don't be surprised if you see something like the same Cheerio's commercial 6 times in one show.
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One disadvantage is that the ads on streaming are more annoying. Advertising on streaming isn't as popular, so services have a smaller pool of commercials to show. That means you may see the same commercial in every break or sometimes even multiple times in the same break. Don't be surprised if you see something like the same Cheerio's commercial 6 times in one show.
True that. Someone here recommended Pluto TV, and I do like it and don't mind the commercials (since it's free), but seeing the same commercial over and over can get annoying. Not that I want a lot of commercials, but some variety would be better.
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I cut the cord a little over a year ago. I use a Tivo Roamio OTA DVR for watching and recording over-the-air broadcast channels. It's a bit pricey initially (~350) but well worth it and I'm saving that much every couple of months by not paying the ridiculous prices Verizon was charging for cable service and equipment. No Tivo subscription is required for the Roamio OTA. I didn't always get good reception using one of those flat antennas, so I got one of these attic antennas and it works great: https://www.amazon.com/GE-33692-Atti...=attic+antenna

I also use a Roku (two actually) and I have subscriptions to Netflix streaming, Amazon Prime, and HBO NOW. Lots of great shows (movies and TV series) to watch on those. I watch The Daily Show on the Comedy Central app on my Roku. The most recent episodes are usually available without needing a cable provider login (unfortunately many of the network tv apps limit your access to their content without a login through a cable provider). Roku also recently started their own 'Roku Channel' with a lot of free movies available to stream. The PBS app is also pretty great for watching some of the back-catalog of shows like NOVA, Frontline, Masterpiece Theater, and more.

If you own any blu-rays, check the case to see if they include a code for a digital version of the movie. You can sign up for an account on the appropriate services (Ultraviolet, VUDU, etc.) and then stream the movies any time through the VUDU app on a Roku or other streaming device.
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If you own any blu-rays, check the case to see if they include a code for a digital version of the movie. You can sign up for an account on the appropriate services (Ultraviolet, VUDU, etc.) and then stream the movies any time through the VUDU app on a Roku or other streaming device.
Quoting myself to add some info I learned recently. This applies to movies bought on disc (either DVD or Blu-ray) that did not include a digital version with the purchase. VUDU has a Disc-to-Digital program that allows you to purchase digital copies of movies you already own on disc, at a price that is generally much lower than purchasing the digital copy alone. It works with DVDs and Blu-rays, and it's $2 per movie to get the same definition (SD for DVDs, HD for Blu-rays) or $5 to upgrade a DVD to an HD digital copy. VUDU has a mobile app for this that lets you just scan the barcode of the disk box and pay the fee. There is a desktop app, too. Not all movies are available, and there is a limit of 100 conversions per year. I have ripped a lot of my DVDs to digital myself and use PLEX to view them, but I don't have a blu-ray drive and this is a quick, inexpensive option for getting digital copies of some of my old blu-rays.
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Quoting myself to add some info I learned recently. This applies to movies bought on disc (either DVD or Blu-ray) that did not include a digital version with the purchase. VUDU has a Disc-to-Digital program that allows you to purchase digital copies of movies you already own on disc, at a price that is generally much lower than purchasing the digital copy alone. It works with DVDs and Blu-rays, and it's $2 per movie to get the same definition (SD for DVDs, HD for Blu-rays) or $5 to upgrade a DVD to an HD digital copy. VUDU has a mobile app for this that lets you just scan the barcode of the disk box and pay the fee. There is a desktop app, too. Not all movies are available, and there is a limit of 100 conversions per year. I have ripped a lot of my DVDs to digital myself and use PLEX to view them, but I don't have a blu-ray drive and this is a quick, inexpensive option for getting digital copies of some of my old blu-rays.
This sounds pretty cool, thanks!
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I use Phone Power for my VOIP, but I'm pretty sure many of them are pretty similar. It's $8.33/mo if you prepay a year. You actually get 2 lines with the service (although they're attached to the same number). The porting is pretty easy and will only take a few days.
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I bought a Roku for Christmas, hooked it up, attached our Netflix and Amazon Prime accounts to it
We did that exact thing one year ago. Signed up with Playstation Vue through the Roku, but we recently dumped that service when they jacked their prices up. Now we just use Hulu.

So that gives us Netflix, Amazon Prime, Hulu, the free stations on Roku, and an indoor antenna for the local news and such. The Roku channel ain't too shabby, and Crackle's not bad, either. Tried Pluto, but we don't like it at all.

We've just discovered Roku's casting abilities. So we can now stream from our laptops and tablets straight to the TV. There are a couple of ways to do it on Windows 10, and one of the methods screws up the sound. If you'll just hit the Cast button from Windows Media Player, it plays perfectly. Works for disks, too, if your laptop has a Blu-ray / DVD player.

Biggest recent problem we've had is BBC America through Hulu doesn't have the Doctor Who Christmas Special.
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We did that exact thing one year ago. Signed up with Playstation Vue through the Roku, but we recently dumped that service when they jacked their prices up. Now we just use Hulu.

So that gives us Netflix, Amazon Prime, Hulu, the free stations on Roku, and an indoor antenna for the local news and such. The Roku channel ain't too shabby, and Crackle's not bad, either. Tried Pluto, but we don't like it at all.

We've just discovered Roku's casting abilities. So we can now stream from our laptops and tablets straight to the TV. There are a couple of ways to do it on Windows 10, and one of the methods screws up the sound. If you'll just hit the Cast button from Windows Media Player, it plays perfectly. Works for disks, too, if your laptop has a Blu-ray / DVD player.

Biggest recent problem we've had is BBC America through Hulu doesn't have the Doctor Who Christmas Special.
Never mind my above advice. I've just unplugged both Roku units and tossed them into a drawer.

Streaming platform Roku hosts Infowars channel after Facebook, YouTube bans

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“Customers choose and control which channels they download or watch, and parents can set a pin to prevent channels from being downloaded,” the statement continued. “While the vast majority of all streaming on our platform is mainstream entertainment, voices on all sides of an issue or cause are free to operate a channel. We do not curate or censor based on viewpoint.”
Do they have a KKK channel, too?
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That seems silly. Did you also throw away your computer when you found that the infowars web site was available on it?
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That seems silly. Did you also throw away your computer when you found that the infowars web site was available on it?
You'll notice that I didn't say that I threw away my TV.
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You'll notice that I didn't say that I threw away my TV.
I see. You're angry that the Roku software allows infowars to be seen. So have you stopped using Chrome (or Edge or Firefox or whatever browser you're using) because it allows the infowars web site to be seen?
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I see. You're angry that the Roku software allows infowars to be seen. So have you stopped using Chrome (or Edge or Firefox or whatever browser you're using) because it allows the infowars web site to be seen?
I have no interest in arguing nonsense. Bye now.
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I see. You're angry that the Roku software allows infowars to be seen. So have you stopped using Chrome (or Edge or Firefox or whatever browser you're using) because it allows the infowars web site to be seen?
I think the issue is that InfoWars is listed in the Roku channel listing. Roku isn't like a browser where you point it at some random address and it displays what is presented. Roku has some criteria for channels to be added to the official list that Roku users can find in the Search feature of the Roku box. It is possible to add unofficial channels to your Roku, but that is a manual step.

A browser analogy would be if InfoWars came up as one of the official tiled sites in the New Tab screen on a fresh install. It's one thing if you manualy enter the InfoWars url as a bookmark, but it's different if Chrome ships with an InfoWars bookmark built in.

By allowing InfoWars to be easily searchable from the Roku interface, it means it's much easier for InfoWars to find an audience. Although some savvy users could add it manually, most customers would give up if InfoWars did not return any search results.
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I think the issue is that InfoWars is listed in the Roku channel listing. Roku isn't like a browser where you point it at some random address and it displays what is presented. Roku has some criteria for channels to be added to the official list that Roku users can find in the Search feature of the Roku box. It is possible to add unofficial channels to your Roku, but that is a manual step.

A browser analogy would be if InfoWars came up as one of the official tiled sites in the New Tab screen on a fresh install. It's one thing if you manualy enter the InfoWars url as a bookmark, but it's different if Chrome ships with an InfoWars bookmark built in.

By allowing InfoWars to be easily searchable from the Roku interface, it means it's much easier for InfoWars to find an audience. Although some savvy users could add it manually, most customers would give up if InfoWars did not return any search results.
You're right. I had actually incorrectly thought that infowars was a private Roku channel, not a public one.
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