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Mike Pence made a speech at an international security conference in Munich where he started out by saying, "I bring greetings from the 45th president of the United States of America, President Donald Trump"
He stood there expecting applause, and got nothing.
https://crooksandliars.com/2019/02/p..._content=10617
Does anyone know the word that means at once both hilarious and deeply disheartening?
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Old 02-16-2019, 08:39 PM
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Does anyone know the word that means at once both hilarious and deeply disheartening?
schadenfreue is not that word, but I do take pleasure in the orange one's inevitable downfall.
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Fahrvergnügen?
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Old 02-16-2019, 09:33 PM
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Nice!

I'm giving you a round of Applaudenfruede.
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Old 02-16-2019, 10:06 PM
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Mike Pence made a speech at an international security conference in Munich where he started out by saying, "I bring greetings from the 45th president of the United States of America, President Donald Trump"
He stood there expecting applause, and got nothing.
https://crooksandliars.com/2019/02/p..._content=10617
Insufficient style. Should have done it this way:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2gVXd7FzhQ
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Old 02-16-2019, 10:20 PM
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And then some feral kid with a boomerang should have...
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Individual 1's Fox News nominee for UN Ambassador has withdrawn her name after some difficulties have arisen over her nanny's legal status.
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Old 02-16-2019, 11:10 PM
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Individual 1's Fox News nominee for UN Ambassador has withdrawn her name after some difficulties have arisen over her nanny's legal status.
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So she gave a job to someone in the country legally but didn't have authorization to work. The only reason this should be an issue is because her boss is a complete asshole trying to villainize anyone darker than him. I mean I've hired nannies and we did criminal background checks but I never checked their immigration status and frankly I didn't give a fuck.
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Old 02-17-2019, 12:43 AM
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It's not what Trump says, it's what people believe that is most abhorrent. The internet lasts forever, the MAGA hat wearing people will still have those photos on the web decades from now. It'll be like the consequences of revenge porn except for middle class white men. Liberals believed Obama's presidency would usher in a new era, we were wrong. Trump supporters believed the same and they are as well. The difference is only one will regret the pictures taken of them in 30 years. Crap like racism isn't something you can just catch by watching TV. It is systemic, supported and reinforced.

What we are seeing now, politically, is akin to middle America watching teenagers on TV getting firehosed and attacked by police dogs like in the Civil Rights Era.

Maybe as a nation we really needed this all along to change our course.

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Old 02-17-2019, 03:32 AM
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Sure, Pence may have genuinely convinced himself that Trump is God's Hand at Work---but again, even a delusional theist of average intelligence would know that the Munich audience was highly unlikely to share that view.

So what's left is that Pence is probably a delusional theist of sub-average intelligence.

Not a news flash, I guess. But interesting to have it confirmed.
You underestimate Pence's intelligence. He is at least of average intelligence but is absolutely convinced he is on a mission from God. It would not surprise me if he harbors a desire to become a martyr. He is not a "theist", he is a fanatic.

So he's going to sing the praises of God's Chosen regardless of whether he gets applause or not.

Back when he was governor of Indiana he happily promoted and signed into law things that hurt business and the local economy, despite being Republican, because it promoted his religious agenda. He didn't care about any pain it might cause because he was RIGHT, with God on his side, and that was more important than anything else.

Don't mistake his different world view as lack of intelligence.
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Old 02-17-2019, 07:06 AM
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Trump effectively admitted that he sees this as a matter of convenience: the American policymaking process would take time, and he’d “rather do it much faster.”
Classic grifter move to pull the gaff and blow town before the rubes wise up.
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Assuming Abe knows Swedish I'm sure the committee enjoyed a good belly laugh before pitching the letter into a circular file.
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Old 02-17-2019, 09:05 AM
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You underestimate Pence's intelligence. He is at least of average intelligence but is absolutely convinced he is on a mission from God. It would not surprise me if he harbors a desire to become a martyr. He is not a "theist", he is a fanatic.

So he's going to sing the praises of God's Chosen regardless of whether he gets applause or not.

Back when he was governor of Indiana he happily promoted and signed into law things that hurt business and the local economy, despite being Republican, because it promoted his religious agenda. He didn't care about any pain it might cause because he was RIGHT, with God on his side, and that was more important than anything else.

Don't mistake his different world view as lack of intelligence.
I’m sorry, but that world view does indicate a certain lack of intelligence.
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Old 02-17-2019, 09:40 AM
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... and your article is behind a pay wall ...
The Washington Post website has some annoyances, but this venerable newspaper is a beacon of truth and hope amidst a cesspool of lies. The website has built-in methods to cope with the "No more free articles" message. (Right-click, 3rd option works for me in both Chrome and Firefox.) Please don't let petulance against their website deprive you of their good reporting.
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Nothing funny about tired Saturday Night Live on Fake News NBC! Question is, how do the Networks get away with these total Republican hit jobs without retribution? Likewise for many other shows? Very unfair and should be looked into. This is the real Collusion!
Once again: Thank God the man is so fundamentally stupid and lazy, or we'd be in even worse shape than we already are; but even so, this president is a menace to our Republic.
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Jesus Fucking Christ.

Once again: Thank God the man is so fundamentally stupid and lazy, or we'd be in even worse shape than we already are; but even so, this president is a menace to our Republic.
He has literally said that he wants "retribution" against the media. For making fun of him.

And the MAGA-capped Numpties will go right along with it. It's only a matter of time before one of these mouth-breathers commits an act of violence.
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Jesus Fucking Christ.

Once again: Thank God the man is so fundamentally stupid and lazy, or we'd be in even worse shape than we already are; but even so, this president is a menace to our Republic.
For anyone who whines that someone on a blog complaining about a taco stand is abridging freedom of speech, take note. This is what an authoritarian looking to limit speech actually looks like.
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He has literally said that he wants "retribution" against the media. For making fun of him.

And the MAGA-capped Numpties will go right along with it. It's only a matter of time before one of these mouth-breathers commits an act of violence.
It's already happening. Trump got his crowd so riled up in El Paso some asshat attacked a cameraman.
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It's only a matter of time before one of these mouth-breathers commits an act of violence.
You mean like the assault on the BBC cameraman? Or worse?
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Old 02-17-2019, 12:18 PM
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He has literally said that he wants "retribution" against the media. For making fun of him.

And the MAGA-capped Numpties will go right along with it. It's only a matter of time before one of these mouth-breathers commits an act of violence.
I will actually agree with President CFSG on one point: SNL's Trump bits with Alec Baldwin ARE pretty tired. What makes Trump's comment inadvertently hilarious is that last night Baldwin pretty much just read bits of Trump's National Emergency Announcement verbatim; with little adornment. What President CFSG seems to be complaining about is his own presentation.

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Old 02-17-2019, 12:34 PM
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I will actually agree with President CFSG on one point: SNL's Trump bits with Alec Baldwin ARE pretty tired. What makes Trump's comment inadvertently hilarious is that last night Baldwin pretty much just read bits of Trump's National Emergency Announcement verbatim; with little adornment. What President CFSG seems to be complaining about is his own presentation.
Agreed. They did the same with Sarah Palin.

Not too funn this time, but comedy is hit or miss.
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Old 02-17-2019, 12:41 PM
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I thought Alec should've retired his Trump back in January, 2017. It has gone on too long and we... and SNL... need a fresh take.
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Baldwin's Trump routine could be refreshed with a dose of insanity. I say biring back Martin Short to play Pelosi, and let them fight.
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I wonder what Individual 1's definition of the word "collusion" is, and how it applies to Saturday Night Live.
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I wonder what Individual 1's definition of the word "collusion" is, and how it applies to Saturday Night Live.
It means exactly what Induhvidual-1 intends it to mean at the time he utters it, which has no relation to its past or future meanings. In this case, it probably means "not sufficiently complimentary to me."
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I will actually agree with President CFSG on one point: SNL's Trump bits with Alec Baldwin ARE pretty tired. What makes Trump's comment inadvertently hilarious is that last night Baldwin pretty much just read bits of Trump's National Emergency Announcement verbatim; with little adornment. What President CFSG seems to be complaining about is his own presentation.
The more accurate the reflection, the more the mirror insults.
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Some excerpts from the Post's review of McCabe's book:

Andrew McCabe’s disturbing account of working for Sessions and Trump

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He didn’t read intelligence reports and mixed up classified material with what he had seen in newspaper clips. He seemed confused about the structure and purpose of organizations and became overwhelmed when meetings covered multiple subjects. He blamed immigrants for nearly every societal problem and uttered racist sentiments with shocking callousness.

This isn’t how President Trump is depicted in a new book by former deputy FBI director Andrew McCabe. Instead, it’s McCabe’s account of what it was like to work for then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions.

The FBI was better off when “you all only hired Irishmen,” Sessions said in one diatribe about the bureau’s workforce. “They were drunks but they could be trusted. Not like all those new people with nose rings and tattoos — who knows what they’re doing?”

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Inevitably, the book includes disturbing new detail about Trump’s subservience to Russian President Vladimir Putin. During an Oval Office briefing in July 2017, Trump refused to believe U.S. intelligence reports that North Korea had test-fired an intercontinental ballistic missile — a test that Kim Jong Un had called a Fourth of July “gift” to “the arrogant Americans.”

Trump dismissed the missile launch as a “hoax,” McCabe writes. “He thought that North Korea did not have the capability to launch such missiles. He said he knew this because Vladimir Putin had told him so.
[my bold]

Yes, because Putin is trustworthy and has America's best interest at heart. The Russian internet trolls were the best investment Vlad ever made.

The reviewer does talk about McCabe's baggage and the book's shortcomings and how McCabe has an ax to grind.
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The best thing about this "border crisis" is, Trump actually has the gall or stupidity says he didn't need to do it. Which means it is NOT an emergency. And then goes on vacation again.

“I want to do it faster. I could do the wall over a longer period of time. I didn’t need to do this, but I’d rather do it much faster…. I just want to get it done faster, that’s all.”

Trump effectively admitted that he sees this as a matter of convenience: the American policymaking process would take time, and he’d “rather do it much faster.”

There is no emergency. This is an unconstitutional power grab.
IANAL lawyer, nor a supporter of Trump, the Wall, or this emergency. But this article makes enough sense to scare me. The gist seems to be that with National Emergencies Act of 1976 Congress basically ceded a lot of its power to the Executive branch. There is apparently no standard for what is meant by 'emergency' other than 'the President says so'. And apparently he can veto Congress's resolution saying 'is not' - so what can be done?

Oh, and the author also thinks that the courts will be loathe to save Congress from itself, which is probably also true.
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As I recall, the courts were pretty quick to step in when Congress tried to give Bill Clinton a line item veto over appropriations. Would that be an applicable precedent here?
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Abe's nomination of Individual 1 for the Nobel Prize occurred because the White House asked him to do so.
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She also said, "the goal of a national emergency is for Trump to scam the stupidest people in his base for 2 more years."
https://uproxx.com/viral/ann-counter...l-emergency/3/
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Yes, to both. I'm known for my cashew fudge. If you quote me, don't even use my pseudonym, ok?
Yep. That's what I'm gonna do. Go down to the fillin' station, get a bottle of pop, and go over to Thelma Lou's and watch a little TV.

Or was it go home and take a nap and go over to Thelma Lou's?

ETA it was a nap. Can 't find the video

https://www.quotes.net/mquote/881790

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Yep. That's what I'm gonna do. Go down to the fillin' station, get a bottle of pop, and go over to Thelma Lou's and watch a little TV.

Or was it go home and take a nap and go over to Thelma Lou's?

ETA it was a nap. Can 't find the video

https://www.quotes.net/mquote/881790
Found them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NmzsFh24PM

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6uriwa

The first one is right at the beginning, the 2nd near the end
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Yep. That's what I'm gonna do. Go down to the fillin' station, get a bottle of pop, and go over to Thelma Lou's and watch a little TV.

Or was it go home and take a nap and go over to Thelma Lou's?

ETA it was a nap. Can 't find the video

https://www.quotes.net/mquote/881790
That bit of dialogue is from my favorite episode of Andy Griffith, "Man in a Hurry." A big city businessman is passing through Mayberry on a Sunday, and his car breaks down. He's has no choice but to sit there all day cooling his heels while Andy and the gang go slowly about the Lord's Day's business, which is to say not much of anything. At first the stranger bristles and chafes at the leisurely pace, but by the end of the show he yields to Mayberry's spell and after Aunt Bee's Sunday sinner, he sits on Andy's front porch peeling an apple in one strip while Andy strums his guitar and sings, "Little Old Church in the Vale." Eventually the stranger dozes off. I adore that episode. Thank you for reminding me of it.

The whole episode is well worth watching. Especially on a Sunday.

Carry on.
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and after Aunt Bee's Sunday sinner
my bold.

Ah, what a difference a letter makes.

Now I want that to be my screen name.

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Tragicomical?
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my bold.

Ah, what a difference a letter makes.

Now I want that to be my screen name.
EEK!!

My face is really red...
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"No collusion! No collusion! YOU'RE the collusion!"
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IANAL lawyer, nor a supporter of Trump, the Wall, or this emergency. But this article makes enough sense to scare me. The gist seems to be that with National Emergencies Act of 1976 Congress basically ceded a lot of its power to the Executive branch. There is apparently no standard for what is meant by 'emergency' other than 'the President says so'. And apparently he can veto Congress's resolution saying 'is not' - so what can be done?

Oh, and the author also thinks that the courts will be loathe to save Congress from itself, which is probably also true.
There's probably a rule against cross-posting or self-promotion or whatever; but I launched a thread on GD today precisely on the subject of the Emergencies Act and what we can do about it.
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That bit of dialogue is from my favorite episode of Andy Griffith, "Man in a Hurry." A big city businessman is passing through Mayberry on a Sunday, and his car breaks down. He's has no choice but to sit there all day cooling his heels while Andy and the gang go slowly about the Lord's Day's business, which is to say not much of anything. At first the stranger bristles and chafes at the leisurely pace, but by the end of the show he yields to Mayberry's spell and after Aunt Bee's Sunday sinner, he sits on Andy's front porch peeling an apple in one strip while Andy strums his guitar and sings, "Little Old Church in the Vale." Eventually the stranger dozes off. I adore that episode. Thank you for reminding me of it.

The whole episode is well worth watching. Especially on a Sunday.

Carry on.
You missed my edit with the link to the "bottle of pop, take a nap" etc (with Don Rickles as the travelling salesman). So when I come over, what are we going to watch on tv?

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EEK!!

My face is really red...
Heh. Thanks for the laugh by typo. I've seen all of Andy, and I didn't remember that one.
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IANAL lawyer, nor a supporter of Trump, the Wall, or this emergency. But this article makes enough sense to scare me. The gist seems to be that with National Emergencies Act of 1976 Congress basically ceded a lot of its power to the Executive branch. There is apparently no standard for what is meant by 'emergency' other than 'the President says so'. And apparently he can veto Congress's resolution saying 'is not' - so what can be done?....
He can veto Congress's resolution if the Republicans support him in his fake national emergency/power-grab/overreach that they'd condemn if a Democrat did it; to be veto proof, a 2/3 vote is required.

Looked at another way: If enough Republicans set aside their servile sycophancy for one vote, Trump would be helpless.
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You missed my edit with the link to the "bottle of pop, take a nap" etc (with Don Rickles as the travelling salesman). So when I come over, what are we going to watch on tv?
We'll watch Andy until we make ourselves sick from eating cashew fudge.
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He can veto Congress's resolution if the Republicans support him in his fake national emergency/power-grab/overreach that they'd condemn if a Democrat did it; to be veto proof, a 2/3 vote is required.

Looked at another way: If enough Republicans set aside their servile sycophancy for one vote, Trump would be helpless.
I'm not counting on those traitor bastards. They already made their choice.
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He can veto Congress's resolution if the Republicans support him in his fake national emergency/power-grab/overreach that they'd condemn if a Democrat did it; to be veto proof, a 2/3 vote is required.

Looked at another way: If enough Republicans set aside their servile sycophancy for one vote, Trump would be helpless.
So you're saying Trump is going to win?
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He can veto Congress's resolution if the Republicans support him in his fake national emergency/power-grab/overreach that they'd condemn if a Democrat did it; to be veto proof, a 2/3 vote is required.

Looked at another way: If enough Republicans set aside their servile sycophancy for one vote, Trump would be helpless.
Really large speed bump: Yertle. They cannot even vote on it in the Senate unless he lets them. He kind of has veto power right in his wattle.
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Really large speed bump: Yertle. They cannot even vote on it in the Senate unless he lets them. He kind of has veto power right in his wattle.
Apparently not in this case; this resolution has special powers that require a vote.
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So you're saying Trump is going to win?
How many times have Collins et al. been "concerned" about something Trump did? And how many times did they back him anyway?
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Could this get ANY weirder?? (Don't answer that...)

Trump Circulates Limbaugh Quote Calling for Mueller Investigators to ‘Be in Jail’
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President Trump took to Twitter on Sunday to apparently circulate a call for the jailing of those who investigate him, including Special Counsel Robert Mueller. “‘These guys, the investigators, ought to be in jail. What they have done, working with the Obama intelligence agencies, is simply unprecedented,’” Trump wrote, quoting conservative pundit Rush Limbaugh. “‘This is one of the greatest political hoaxes ever perpetrated on the people of this Country, and Mueller is a coverup.’” He later added, in his own words, that “The Mueller investigation is totally conflicted, illegal and rigged! Should never have been allowed to begin, except for the Collusion and many crimes committed by the Democrats. Witch Hunt!”

The president’s tweets came hours after House Intelligence chairman Adam Schiff (D-CA) said Sunday that there’s “evidence in plain sight” that Trump colluded with Russia. “All of this is evidence of collusion, and you either have to look the other way to say it isn’t or you have to have a different word for it, because it is a corrupt dealing with a foreign adversary during a campaign,” Schiff told CNN’s Dana Bash.
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"Obama intelligence agencies"?? Huh??

Leave it to that mental giant Limbaugh to pull everything out and make a mish-mash of it: "hoaxes ...coverup ...conflicted, illegal and rigged ...Collusion* ...Witch Hunt!"



* Capitalized, which means it's double-secret, extra bad.
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