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Old 03-02-2015, 09:52 AM
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I don't think Aaron Shock (R-IL) is going to survive the endless scandal news


Aaron Shock, of the solidly Republican 18th district of Illinois, isn't going to survive the constant scandal reporting. I believe he will be forced to resign his seat.

It's been quite interesting to watch. He's been a movie celebrity, with his appearances on Men's Health and strong gay rumors. He's been seen as an up and comer in the party.

But, this year has been a disaster. It started with him firing an aid for posting racist comments on Facebook. Then, the stories of his office being redecorated in Downton Abbey style. Those stories have been followed with even more reports of outlandish spending including concert tickets to Katy Perry, private planes, and a $75,000 car.

There's no way he'll survive

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Aaron Shock, of the solidly Republican 18th district of Illinois,]isn't going to survive the constant scandal reporting. I believe he will be forced to resign his seat.

It's been quite interesting to watch. He's been a movie celebrity, with his appearances on Men's Health and strong gay rumors. He's been seen as an up and comer in the party.

But, this year has been a disaster. It started with him firing an aid for posting racist comments on Facebook. Then, the stories of his office being redecorated in Downton Abbey style. Those stories have been followed with even more reports of outlandish spending including concert tickets to Katy Perry, private planes, and a $75,000 car.

There's no way he'll survive.
Bolding mine. I don't know much about Rep. Shock but I predict he will survive. The bar is set necessarily low for congressmen no matter what their political affiliation, so after a few mea culpa's and the requisite radio/TV appearances blaming the media all will be forgiven.
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Bolding mine. I don't know much about Rep. Shock but I predict he will survive. The bar is set necessarily low for congressmen no matter what their political affiliation, so after a few mea culpa's and the requisite radio/TV appearances blaming the media all will be forgiven.
I don't know. That Katy Perry thing will stick.
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Don't forget selling his $255k house to his political donors for $925K.

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Plus there's that huge zit/ingrown hair thingy on his Adams Apple ( scroll down to 2nd picture). You'd think they'd have Photoshopped that out. Your eyes immediately focus on it. He should resign just for that.
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It all comes down to how it plays in Peoria. I could see him surviving if something doesn't rise to the level of prompting criminal charges, but I'm not a voter in Peoria.
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It's been quite interesting to watch. He's been a movie celebrity, with his appearances on Men's Health and strong gay rumors.
What difference does his alleged sexual orientation make?
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What difference does his alleged sexual orientation make?
He's a Republican.
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Politically he's anti-gay, so it's hypocritical.
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I just noticed that I misspelled Rep. Schock's last name in my first post. My apologies.
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Plus there's that huge zit/ingrown hair thingy on his Adams Apple ( scroll down to 2nd picture). You'd think they'd have Photoshopped that out. Your eyes immediately focus on it. He should resign just for that.
At first, I thought he'd just cut himself shaving.

Then, I realized that I was looking at a Republican website, and finally understood that joke, "if I die, delete my browser history."
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Politically he's anti-gay, so it's hypocritical.
Cite that he's politically anti-gay, please.
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Cite that he's politically anti-gay, please.
Like I said, he's a Republican.


Don't like the first cite? Ok.

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Cite that he's politically anti-gay, please.
Straight from the horse's mouth ass.
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Cite that he's politically anti-gay, please.
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Schock voted against amending federal hate crimes laws to include crimes where the victims were targeted on the basis of sexual orientation, gender identity, gender and disability.[88] He voted against the repeal of the military's "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" in December 2010.[67]

Schock also voted against the Employment Discrimination Law Amendment H.R. 11 and H.R. 12, which were eventually passed on January 9, 2009.[89]

Schock voted for House Amendment 1416, which Prohibits Use of Funds in Contravention of the Defense of Marriage Act, adopted 247 to 166 in the House July 19, 2012.[90]
Moderately anti-gay, by Republican standards.
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Like I said, he's a Republican.


Don't like the first cite? Ok.
Neither one of those "cites" are legitimate, and you're hurting my browser.
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Moderately anti-gay, by Republican standards.
Maybe he just believes, correctly, that so-called hate crime laws are silly pandering.

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Neither one of those "cites" are legitimate, and you're hurting my browser.
Is this a legitimate cite?
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We recognize and honor the courageous efforts of those who bear the many burdens of parenting alone, even as we believe that marriage, the union of one man and one woman must be upheld as the national standard, a goal to stand for, encourage, and promote through laws governing marriage.

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Is this a legitimate cite?
Not every member of the GOP supports every part of the platform. Where is the cite that the Congressman himself is anti-gay?
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Not every member of the GOP supports every part of the platform. Where is the cite that the Congressman himself is anti-gay?
You must have missed it.
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You mean like this dude?

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When did the discussion shift focus? Or is that blur you ducking and weaving?
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When did the discussion shift focus? Or is that blur you ducking and weaving?
Was Obama's statement anti-gay, or not? It was almost, word for word, the same as the Congressman's statement.

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In 2008.
In 2012.
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ABC broke into its daytime lineup May 9, 2012, to announce a historic shift: the president of the United States declaring his personal support for gay marriage.

"I've been going through an evolution on this issue," President Barack Obama told ABC News.

On Wednesday, by contrast, he said: "I’ve just concluded that for me personally it is important for me to go ahead and affirm that I think same-sex couples should be able to get married."
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In 2008.
In 2012.
So he was against it, before he was for it?
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So he was against it, before he was for it?
What's that got to do with the topic of the thread?

Maybe Schock will change his mind.
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It didn't work out so well for John Kerry, did it?
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Schock has consistently gone against measures supported by the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) community. He has supported an amendment to the Constitution to ban same-sex marriage. He opposed President Obama’s 2011 decision to not defend the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) against court challenge. Schock voted against the 2010 repeal of the ban on gay men and lesbians serving openly in the armed forces. And he voted against the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act. Schock’s voting record is so anti-gay that he earned a zero percent rating from the Human Rights Campaign, the nation’s largest LGBT rights organization.
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Yes, but what about Hillary? And Marcus Pinkerton from Bakersfield, California?
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Neither one of those "cites" are legitimate, and you're hurting my browser.
Here, rub some of this on it.
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Was Obama's statement anti-gay, or not? It was almost, word for word, the same as the Congressman's statement.
I love it when reactionary right-wingers like yourself try to play a "gotcha" by presenting a liberal politician expressing anti-gay sentiment. Like we're suddenly going to say, "Well, it's not bigotry when someone who supports food stamps says it!"

Barrack Obama has been a homophobe for most of his political career, or at least has been willing to play the role of one for political gain, which works out to about the same thing in my book. The Democratic party as a whole has never been an ally to the gay rights movement. They have, at best, been less of an impediment than the Republicans. This in no way excuses the ingrained bigotry of the Republican party against homosexuals, and no amount of half-assed tu quoques on your part will change that.
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I'm going to offer an opinion, which is to say, can't prove diddly squat. But I think they were caught off guard by how quickly things changed. At what point, perzackly, did support for gay equality stop being political suicide? I don't know either, but it wasn't that long ago....

I think the reactionaries inadvertently helped. Back when gay marriage first started to be noticed, they ran to the internet to show us the shock and horror of gay marriages. Hey, that middle aged woman looks kinda like Aunt Esther, nothing scary about Aunt Esther. And that guy, looks a lot like Fred from Accounting. Wait, that is Fred from Accounting!....

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Barrack Obama has been a homophobe for most of his political career, or at least has been willing to play the role of one for political gain, which works out to about the same thing in my book.
Did you vote for him, twice?
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Of course I did. What's my alternative? The Republicans?
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I love it when reactionary right-wingers like yourself try to play a "gotcha" by presenting a liberal politician expressing anti-gay sentiment. Like we're suddenly going to say, "Well, it's not bigotry when someone who supports food stamps says it!"



Barrack Obama has been a homophobe for most of his political career, or at least has been willing to play the role of one for political gain, which works out to about the same thing in my book. The Democratic party as a whole has never been an ally to the gay rights movement. They have, at best, been less of an impediment than the Republicans. This in no way excuses the ingrained bigotry of the Republican party against homosexuals, and no amount of half-assed tu quoques on your part will change that.

I'd be incredibly surprised if you can find pro-LBGTQ legislation that wasn't put forth by a Democrat. While a Dem put forth DADT in hopes that homosexuals could serve and wouldn't be asked about their sexual preference (it didn't work out that way), another Dem opened up the military for gays & lesbians to serve openly. Pres Obama has done LOADS more for LBGTQ people than any other president.
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Maybe he just believes, correctly, that so-called hate crime laws are silly pandering.
Nope. He has never to the best of my knowledge (if you've got a cite to the contrary, by all means post it) called for the repeal of hate crime laws in general, just specifically targeted Teh Gayz as outsiders.
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Politico has a major story on Schock. He needs to get everything out there for any chance to survive. This Chinese water torture of a new expense revealed every day keeps this story dragging on.

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One almost wants to say "sprinkle liberally."
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What's that got to do with the topic of the thread?

Maybe Schock will change his mind.
Looks like adaher is on a break. So another guy got tagged to Change The Subject Because A Republican Looks Bad.
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Alcee Hastings was a federal judge, who was one the very few judges who have been impeached and removed by Congress* in the last couple hundred years.

Where is he now? In the House of Representatives. Good job, democrat voters.

And y'all are worried about Congressman Schock's office décor?





*for bribery and perjury
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We're allowed to worry about more than one thing at a time. If you'd like to call our attention to the case of Representative Hastings, feel free to create a thread on that topic, where we can all denounce him.
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Maybe he just believes, correctly, that so-called hate crime laws are silly pandering.
Except he only objected to hate crime laws against gays not regarding people targeted for race, nationality or religion.

Also, you'll notice he voted against repealing "Don't Ask Don't Tell" and allowing gays to serve openly in the military.
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I think you mean "Democratic Party voters", don't you?

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Another Schock story in the Sun Times. This guy makes it too easy.

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With Schock, it is becoming embarrassingly clear, there’s always another shoe to drop. And so one did on Monday evening. The latest revelation concerns Schock’s travel to the aforementioned Bears game. Schock had already billed taxpayers $10,000 for his private flight to the November 16 Bears-Viking match, but it turns out that he also used another $3,000 in taxpayer funds to pay for the flight. However, Schock reported that $3,000 as a software purchase on federal campaign finance records. An innocent mix-up? Not quite: Keith Siilats, the chief technology officer of the firm from which Schock claimed to have purchased software, told Politico, “I never sold him software.”

Federal law prohibits “knowing and willful” misrepresentation of official expenditures. Those two criminal defense attorneys Schock retained last month may soon find themselves very busy men indeed.
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