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Was she murdered?
No.

Another good question.
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I'll refrain from this one since I think I know the solution, though, the situation as I heard it was slightly different. And in some ways I like the way I heard it better because it is a bit more of an elegant setup, for reasons I won't say because I'd be giving a clue.
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Does the kind of music matter?
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Did a piano fall on her?
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Was she music?
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Was she music?
I like this answer.
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Music box dancer?
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Old 07-13-2017, 02:51 AM
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Music box dancer?
I thought of that, but post#130 confirms she's human and (formerly) living.
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Is she blind/blindfolded?

Was the music supposed to play for a certain length of time/until event x happened, but because the music stopped early she thought it was safe to perform an action when it wasn't?
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Does the kind of music matter?
No.

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Did a piano fall on her?
No.

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Was she music?
No.

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Music box dancer?
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1. Is she blind/blindfolded?

2. Was the music supposed to play for a certain length of time/until event x happened, but because the music stopped early she thought it was safe to perform an action when it wasn't?
1. Yes.

2. Yes.

3. Uh, those questions are pretty spot on and out of nowhere. Are you sure you didn't look it up?

We still need more details, but Mr Shine just went from zero to close.
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Old 07-13-2017, 07:15 AM
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Did she die in hospital or other medical care?
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Old 07-13-2017, 07:23 AM
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Is this from a horror - particularly Cthulhu Mythos - story?
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Old 07-13-2017, 08:12 AM
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Did she die in hospital or other medical care?
No, died instantly.

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Is this from a horror - particularly Cthulhu Mythos - story?
No.
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Was the music performed by human musicians present?
Was the music transmitted from elsewhere, as via a radio?
Was the music played from a recording?
Was the music generated on the spot without human musicians?
Are any of these questions relevant?
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Was "she" playing the music herself?
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Old 07-13-2017, 08:52 AM
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3. Uh, those questions are pretty spot on and out of nowhere. Are you sure you didn't look it up?
Yes, that just seemed the logical implication.
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I cheated and looked it up, because I was sure I knew the answer. Because being that sure, I assume I must've heard it before.

My grandpa had a ton of these books, and I borrowed them a lot.

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Old 07-13-2017, 09:09 AM
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The woman was surprised when Biotop stopped playing music and fell off her picture of a bicycle into a tub of water with her iPhone and was electrocuted.

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So, it's a blind person using music as a cue for something. Getting hit by a car crossing the street seems like a plausible way to die, but I can't think exactly how. Crossing signals make a sound when it's safe.
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Old 07-13-2017, 09:42 AM
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A parade? She no longer heard music so she thought it was safe to cross the parade route but it wasn't and she got trampled by an elephant?
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1. Was the music performed by human musicians present?
2. Was the music transmitted from elsewhere, as via a radio?
3. Was the music played from a recording?
4. Was the music generated on the spot without human musicians?
5. Are any of these questions relevant?
1. No.
2. Yes.
3. Yes.
4. No.
5. Yes.

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Was "she" playing the music herself?
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Was she outside?
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The woman was surprised when Biotop stopped playing music and fell off her picture of a bicycle into a tub of water with her iPhone and was electrocuted.
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So, it's a blind person using music as a cue for something. Getting hit by a car crossing the street seems like a plausible way to die, but I can't think exactly how. Crossing signals make a sound when it's safe.
No.

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A parade? She no longer heard music so she thought it was safe to cross the parade route but it wasn't and she got trampled by an elephant?
No and no.
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Old 07-13-2017, 09:56 AM
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Is she alone?
Is she at home?
Is she blind?
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Old 07-13-2017, 09:57 AM
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I think I know it now because I've heard it before. Maholoth can confirm this hint:
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She's not blind
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Old 07-13-2017, 09:58 AM
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Was her death violent?

Tripolar, he said before that she is blindfolded but she is not playing a game and she was not executed.

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Over here, traffic lights play a noise so that the visually impaired know when it's safe to cross. So I'm guessing that she stepped into the road just too late and got run over.
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1. Is she alone?
2. Is she at home?
3. Is she blind?
1. No.
2. No.
3. No.



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Was her death violent?
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Over here, traffic lights play a noise so that the visually impaired know when it's safe to cross. So I'm guessing that she stepped into the road just too late and got run over.
No.
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Was she stabbed?
Was she burned?
Was she electrocuted?
Was she crushed?
Was she decapitated?
Was she disemboweled?
Was she struck (as by a blunt instrument)?

ooh wait,

Was her death caused by another human?
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1. Was she stabbed?
2. Was she burned?
3. Was she electrocuted?
4. Was she crushed?
5. Was she decapitated?
6. Was she disemboweled?
7. Was she struck (as by a blunt instrument)?

ooh wait,

8. Was her death caused by another human?
1-7. No.

8. No, although in some sense this could be a yes. But, not directly for sure.
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Old 07-13-2017, 11:08 AM
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So to recap:

She was not at home, but not outside.
She was blindfolded.
She was not alone, but not murdered.
It was recorded transmitted music, not played live, eg radio.
The music stopping was a cue for her to do something, but it stopped too early when it was unsafe to do it.
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Hmm. A blindfolded woman, indoors, is listening to music as from a radio. The music stops and she performs an action that she believes is safe to perform but that belief is incorrect and she dies violently in a way that is not attributable to another person.

Does the music ending lead her to believe that her location has lost electrical power?

Is she a magician's assistant and the music stopping leads her to believe that she should start or stop doing something that interfered with the magician's trick?

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So, she's blindfolded, but doesn't know she's going to die. So not an execution.

Was she playing a game?
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Old 07-13-2017, 11:18 AM
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ETA: just checked, already asked - she was NOT playing a game.

So, if not an execution, not a game, what reasons are there for a person to be blindfolded?
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Over here, traffic lights play a noise so that the visually impaired know when it's safe to cross. So I'm guessing that she stepped into the road just too late and got run over.
That could happen. So could my electrocution thing. But with these puzzles there's more than one circumstance that leads to the result, so solving is about figuring out exactly which one.

If I have the right one then here's another hint:
SPOILER:
Maybe too much of a hint, so don't look if you want to solve this on your own.
SPOILER:
She has a friend called Annette and she was working without her friend.

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Is she a magician's assistant and the music stopping leads her to believe that she should start or stop doing something that interfered with the magician's trick?
This is the best idea yet.
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1. Does the music ending lead her to believe that her location has lost electrical power?

2. Is she a magician's assistant and the music stopping leads her to believe that she should start or stop doing something that interfered with the magician's trick?
1. No.

2. No to all of it.

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Was she playing a game?
No

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That could happen. So could my electrocution thing. But with these puzzles there's more than one circumstance that leads to the result, so solving is about figuring out exactly which one.

If I have the right one then here's another hint:
SPOILER:
Maybe too much of a hint, so don't look if you want to solve this on your own.
SPOILER:
She has a friend called Annette and she was working without her friend.
Dude, zip it! Why are you giving them hints? They are doing fine. They are going to get it all on their own.

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Was she engaged in a performance of any kind?
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1. No.
OK, that rules out something along the lines of wandering in front of the 1812 Overture cannons.

Was the entity playing the music aware that it was being used as a signal for something?
Did the woman know that doing whatever-she-did before the appropriate time would be dangerous?
Was the woman blindfolded willingly?
Was the woman blindfolded by her own choice?
If the woman were not blindfolded, would she have taken the action that resulted in her death?
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That pesky Kim Jong-un finally figured out how to lob a big one across the pond, and ground zero was the radio transmission tower. The blindfolded woman (who was being held captive by her own government) was vaporized a millisecond after the music on the radio stopped playing.
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I already asked if the music stopping and the woman dying had a common cause. The answer was no.
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Was she engaged in a performance of any kind?
Yes.

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1. Was the entity playing the music aware that it was being used as a signal for something?
2. Did the woman know that doing whatever-she-did before the appropriate time would be dangerous?
3. Was the woman blindfolded willingly?
4. Was the woman blindfolded by her own choice?
5. If the woman were not blindfolded, would she have taken the action that resulted in her death?
1. Yes, though it was not a live performance. The individual who pressed "play" to play the music knew.

2. Yes.

3. Yes.

4. Yes.

5. No.

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That pesky Kim Jong-un finally figured out how to lob a big one across the pond, and ground zero was the radio transmission tower. The blindfolded woman (who was being held captive by her own government) was vaporized a millisecond after the music on the radio stopped playing.
No.
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I already asked if the music stopping and the woman dying had a common cause. The answer was no.
Good point. She must have tripped on the cat.

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She was blonde.

The music she was listening to? A recording of someone singing "breathe in, breathe out, breathe in, breathe out."

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The music she was listening to? A recording of someone singing "breathe in, breathe out, breathe in, breathe out."

No.
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So we need to figure out what kind of performance involves a blindfold.

I think you have already said not a magician's assistant.

Was she a magician?
Was she a circus performer?

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And I don't think we've asked yet -

Did she die by falling from height?
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Was this the woman's job?

Not the dying part but the blindfold and performing a certain action?
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I'm thinking that there are blindfold trapeze acts, and perhaps the person with the blindfold is cued to release from the trapeze and fly toward the catcher by the music stopping. The music stops accidentally, with nobody there to catch her. Seems a bit obscure though. But does tie in with her being female, since the lighter performer would be the catchee.

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Was she a circus performer?


Is she something like a tightrope walker or trapeze artist and the music cue normally tells her when to start walking on the tightrope or grab the trapeze and the blindfold prevented her from seeing that the other elements were not in place for her act?

eta: dangit, Riemann.

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...and if that's what happened, Health & Safety should get involved -- the cue system is not fail-safe!
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