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Old 05-15-2019, 08:02 AM
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2020 Ticket Predictions


Time to commit!

Here’s mine:

Republicans: Trump & Nikki Haley. Mike is no longer needed.

Democrats: Biden & Harris.
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Old 05-15-2019, 08:07 AM
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Trump changing his VP would be too much like admitting he made a mistake. Not going to happen.

On the Democratic side, Biden is the safest bet, though I think he's still under a 50% chance against the field. And he'll likely choose a youngish woman. But I don't think it'll be Harris, nor any of the other folks running for the top seat.
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Old 05-15-2019, 08:24 AM
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I don't have a prediction, but Biden/Harris seems pretty good to me. I don't know much about her other than her performance exposing Barr as a stammering fool, which was impressive.
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Old 05-15-2019, 09:57 AM
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Trump changing his VP would be too much like admitting he made a mistake. Not going to happen. .
Trump has run through so, so many,many others without having an iota of anything resembling “too much like admitting he made a mistake”, what makes you think Mikey P would be any different?

“Mike has done a great job for us, just terrific. We’re so grateful. Nikki’s gonna be fantastic, she’ a real superstar, probably the best Vice President ever. Just wait and see.”

Done deal.
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Trump probably thinks he does not need Pence to get the religious vote so I can see him dumping Pence.
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He could put Jane Fonda on the ticket with him and not lose his base. He has a hold on his cult that would be the envy of Jim Jones.
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Seems FDR was the last president to have different VPs when running for re-election and he had 3 VPs. Garner , Wallace and Truman.
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Dems: Biden & Warren

Pubs: Donald & Ivakna (For real.) Add the sexy daughter and "family values" and that's all their fans need.

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Haley is a smart woman. She managed to have a high ranking position and got out before she has too much Trump stink on her. If she ran for VP she would have to stand there and argue Trump points and not her own. She is set up for a 2024 run.

With this many in the ring it’s really impossible to predict on the D side. I’m thinking Biden/Harris is most likely but that also makes me think it won’t happen. Someone lesser known could very easily emerge from the pack.

So I’m going to put my money on the long shot. Klobuchar/Booker. Who’s giving me odds?
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R: Nikki Haley
D: Pete Buttigieg

I do not believe that Trump is going to stand again. He can retire undefeated.
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If the Manchurian Cantaloupe dies or is otherwise removed from office: Pence and McConnell.

I don't think Biden will be the "D" nominee, and I don't even want to speculate as to who might be on the ticket right now.
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Trump/Pence

Harris/O'Rourke
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Seems FDR was the last president to have different VPs when running for re-election and he had 3 VPs. Garner , Wallace and Truman.

It wasn't re-election per se, but Ford had dumped Rockefeller.

I've read that if he hadn't Reagan might have been able to take the nomination but that if Rockefeller had been on the ticket Ford would have beat Carter by winning New York. A no win situation for poor Jerry.
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I think Biden / Harris is about as good a prediction as anyone could make right now. She’d help shore up some of his weaknesses with the democratic base without going too far outside “moderate” territory. And she’d be a lot more likely to take him up on the offer than Stacey Abrams.

Biden’s less of a sure thing than it may appear, though. A lot can happen in the remaining time.

My long shot: Harris / Buttigieg. We need women of color, and we need new blood. But the chances are slim.
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I really question whether Harris would even want the VP job. Unless the President croaks, it's a much less powerful position than being a US Senator. And she's still young enough to be a credible candidate on her own merits for a few more election cycles.
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I really question whether Harris would even want the VP job. Unless the President croaks, it's a much less powerful position than being a US Senator. And she's still young enough to be a credible candidate on her own merits for a few more election cycles.
I think she'd be delighted to do it. Biden may well decide one term is all he can do and being the sitting vice president gives you the name recognition and gravitas to blow the rest of the field out of the water in 2024.
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Well, certainly Biden's advanced age changes the calculus to some extent. But no President ever has actually chosen to voluntarily retire after one term, so I wouldn't count too heavily on Joe being the first. And if they serve two terms, she might be in position to be the frontrunner for 2028, but it's really hard for parties to win three Presidential elections in a row, so that's not quite as good a position as it might appear at first.
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Well, certainly Biden's advanced age changes the calculus to some extent. But no President ever has actually chosen to voluntarily retire after one term, so I wouldn't count too heavily on Joe being the first. And if they serve two terms, she might be in position to be the frontrunner for 2028, but it's really hard for parties to win three Presidential elections in a row, so that's not quite as good a position as it might appear at first.
Polk quit after one, having set four goals and achieving them. LBJ only ran for one term, seeing the writing on the wall for 1968.
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Ah yes, how could I have forgotten Polk?! I don't think LBJ's retirement was really "voluntary" in the sense I mean, since he would have run if he'd thought he'd had a chance of winning. But technically, he would qualify. And, indeed, the Dems did proceed to nominate his VP, which seems like kind of a weird decision in retrospect, but then Humphrey did come very close to winning.

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R: Nikki Haley
D: Pete Buttigieg
Wow, you really are an alien. It will be neither of those two.

I don't know what the GOP are going to do after Pelosi is dragged into finally impeaching Trump, screaming all the way. [Edit: Could they pick Haley? I guess. Whoever it is will likely be run just to lose to Warren. But it's the conservative movement; it will probably be a 'white man.']

The Democratic ticket and eventual winners will be Elizabeth Warren and a another, younger woman. Warren/Harris looks pretty good on a poster, but Gabbard might be a better pick.

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I predict that the race will most likely come down to Biden, Sanders, and the winner, who will successfully draw a contrast with the lecherous Wall Street tool on her right and the deranged Bolshevik on her left. Despite her polls not looking so good lately, I still think Kamala Harris is in the best position to be that candidate. I have no idea who she should choose for VP; that decision can and should be put off until it's clearer where her demographic strengths and weaknesses are.

Oh, it's "time to commit?". Fine. Harris-Bullock.
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This thread is rather silly.

What kind of correct complete Ticket predictions did anyone make for either party in May of 2015?
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This is not okay. Knock off the personal commentary.

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LOL - Pence/McConnel - conjures up visions of a Far Side cartoon.

The best ticket depends on the competition. The Republicans can dump Donald by supporting impeachment and then blaming the Dems for Trumps demise. That would clear the way for the white knight Nikki Haley.

So:

Haley/Kasich - Warren/Booker

Trump/Martinez - Biden/Harris
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LOL - Pence/McConnel - conjures up visions of a Far Side cartoon.

The best ticket depends on the competition. The Republicans can dump Donald by supporting impeachment and then blaming the Dems for Trumps demise. That would clear the way for the white knight Nikki Haley.

So:

Haley/Kasich - Warren/Booker

Trump/Martinez - Biden/Harris
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This thread is rather silly.

What kind of correct complete Ticket predictions did anyone make for either party in May of 2015?
Ok, see you in November 2020. No need to speculate.

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I don't know what the GOP are going to do after Pelosi is dragged into finally impeaching Trump, screaming all the way. [Edit: Could they pick Haley? I guess. Whoever it is will likely be run just to lose to Warren. But it's the conservative movement; it will probably be a 'white man.']

The Democratic ticket and eventual winners will be Elizabeth Warren and a another, younger woman. Warren/Harris looks pretty good on a poster, but Gabbard might be a better pick.
It doesn’t matter what Pelosi does. An impeachment by the house will do nothing to get him off the ticket. Something much bigger that isn’t in the public eye yet will have to come out before he’s actually removed.

I don’t know if the calculus they use to form the optimal ticket actually works but there is no way that the Democrats Will have a ticket with two women on it. Zero chance. I’m thinking it’s close to 100% that one woman will be on it but not two.

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Ok, see you in November 2020. No need to speculate.
It's fun, but quite a bit too far ahead, that's all.

Who predicted Trump/Pence in May of '15? Or Obama/Biden in may of '07?

This line of thinking can skew who people support and work for. Not that I want a Democrat to win, as much as I dislike Trump.
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Haley has so far avoided the Trump stench; she will not start now. Trump/Pence v. Biden/Klobuchar is my pick FWIW (which isn't much).
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It's fun, but quite a bit too far ahead, that's all.

Who predicted Trump/Pence in May of '15? Or Obama/Biden in may of '07?

This line of thinking can skew who people support and work for. Not that I want a Democrat to win, as much as I dislike Trump.
Or Bill Clinton. I have no doubt things will shake out in unpredictable ways in the next two years which is why I’m looking outside the box. I’m really hoping for someone different and younger then the top three.

Barring any outside force (health, high crimes) I would be totally shocked if Trump voluntarily leaves the ticket or dumps Pence.
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I’m really hoping for someone different and younger then the top three..
Democrats can't do different. "Raise taxes, ban guns, blah blah blah blah" is all they know. And the Blue Dogs are irrelevant and almost completely extinct.

As much as I dislike Trump personally, and am furious over his betrayal to gun owners, his policies are working.

Plus, I am thoroughly enjoying the chaos that follows him. "May you live in interesting times" is a blessing, not a curse IMHO.
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Biden-Baldwin

Trump-Pence

Of course it so early as to be wildly speculative, especially on the D side, but that's why it is fun!

FWIW Harris is apparently a bit miffed about the talk of her as a potential Biden VP ... and I can't blame her. Still it's just filler until the debates start and we have more to talk about.
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