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Old 03-12-2019, 04:26 PM
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Disgraced Former President Trump


That's how he will be known in the future.

Damnit! That should be Disgraced!

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And dishonest cheating bastard is (one of the ways) that he is known today.
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I'm hoping to see "Former President and Convicted Felon".
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Do you need to first be graced to be disgraced?
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He's already known as the "disgraced president."
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He's already known as the "disgraced president."
Whatever his status as President, he's disgraced us all. And we may not recover during my remaining lifetime.
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The next president should be considered the 45th. All books should refer to the time between Obama's leaving the White House and the 45th president entering it simply as 'INTERREGNUM'.
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We've got anti-popes. Can we have anti-presidents?
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The next president should be considered the 45th. All books should refer to the time between Obama's leaving the White House and the 45th president entering it simply as 'INTERREGNUM'.
Damn straight. America's Cromwell. Instead of hanging his portrait in the White House, I think a tiny orange mushroom shaped sculpture.

Seriously, I am against capital punishment. Especially in his case, because we don't want his moronic base to rally around a martyr. Put him in a prison withing smelling distance of a McDonald's and feed him tofu burgers.
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Put him in a prison withing smelling distance of a McDonald's and feed him tofu burgers.
Just no orange jumpsuit, he'll look naked.
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Damn straight. America's Cromwell. Instead of hanging his portrait in the White House, I think a tiny orange mushroom shaped sculpture.
I think no portrait at all would be appropriate. There was no president between Obama and whoever the 45th might turn out to be, after all.
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Whatever his status as President, he's disgraced us all. And we may not recover during my remaining lifetime.
OK, I'll make that "the disgraceful president." That seems to be more appropriate.
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I'm torn here. On the one hand, good old damnatio memoriae*. On the other hand, if Trump performs any service to the Republic at all, it will surely be to serve as a warning to others.

*If we somehow ever do build the fucking wall for some fucking reason, all the history books should totally refer to it as "Obama's Wall". And those history books should be the only reading material in Trump's Super-Max cell.
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The next president should be considered the 45th. All books should refer to the time between Obama's leaving the White House and the 45th president entering it simply as 'INTERREGNUM'.
Yes. As with John Hurt's character on Doctor Who--"the War Doctor"--Donald will not be assigned a number. He will be "the Implosion Incumbent" or "the Ruinous Resident" or perhaps "the everlasting and binding cure for any American tendency toward pride, arrogance, or self-satisfied smugness on the world stage."
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The official portrait's already been done.
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Just no orange jumpsuit, he'll look naked.
No, Trump is actually a more subdued shade of orange than the phosphorescent orange of prison jumpsuits. He would probably look quite fetching in one, actually, the suit nicely color coordinated with his carrot-colored grinning mug as he proclaims how they gave him "the best cell in the whole place, absolutely the best -- the best cell. They said 'he deserves the best. Trump deserves the best'. I'm not saying it, that's what they said. And everyone agrees. Everyone agrees."

He is heard mumbling "Nothing but the best. Everyone is saying it" as he is led away back to his cell.
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Whatever his status as President, he's disgraced us all. And we may not recover during my remaining lifetime.
Probably not within mine (69). I have a several-years-older friend who is saddened to realize that "Trump may be [her] last President."
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Whatever his status as President, he's disgraced us all. And we may not recover during my remaining lifetime.
He doesn't disgrace his supporters, they do that themselves.
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Yes. As with John Hurt's character on Doctor Who--"the War Doctor"--Donald will not be assigned a number. He will be "the Implosion Incumbent" or "the Ruinous Resident" or perhaps "the everlasting and binding cure for any American tendency toward pride, arrogance, or self-satisfied smugness on the world stage."
No way. He won't be anything. Damnatio memoriae is the order of the day. When his supporters talk about how much they miss Trump, the only acceptable response should be "Who?"
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That's how he will be known in the future.

Damnit! That should be Disgraced!
Chump hopes he's that lucky. But I'm sure he'll be known as much worse.
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Don't forget: You can go to any pedophile ring, maximum security prison, white supremacist meeting, or rally of Trump supporters and find people even less worthy than Trump. All without the sense of shame that would make them decline high office if offered.

The problem isn't that the Devil created a Trump — there might be a million humans alive on the planet today at least as despicable as that monster — the problem is the voters, politicians and media leaders who allowed him to become President.

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... as he proclaims how they gave him "the best cell in the whole place, absolutely the best -- the best cell. They said 'he deserves the best. Trump deserves the best'. I'm not saying it, that's what they said. And everyone agrees. Everyone agrees."

He is heard mumbling "Nothing but the best. Everyone is saying it" as he is led away back to his cell.
"A very strong, powerful cell. Powerful, very strong, very powerful. Stronger than any other president in history"

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Let's say that the Democratic fever dream comes true and Donald Trump ends up in prison. We now have inmate Trump, a man who had access to all of the United States' most closely held secrets and a man who has absolutely no qualms about burning down the country for his own benefit or amusement, in prison. How exactly do we deal with that situation?
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How exactly do we deal with that situation?
Like Manafort, solitary confinement.
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The best protection will be that he won't be able to remember any of them.
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Let's say that the Democratic fever dream comes true and Donald Trump ends up in prison. We now have inmate Trump, a man who had access to all of the United States' most closely held secrets and a man who has absolutely no qualms about burning down the country for his own benefit or amusement, in prison. How exactly do we deal with that situation?
First of all, there is no evidence that he ever read one sentence of any intelligence briefing. Any secrets that he was made privy to were likely oral briefings only, which went in one ear and, meeting no resistance, went out the other. Since none of what he heard affected him financially, there would have been no reason for him to remember one single word. And if he did remember anything, the odds against him being truthful in retelling any of it are astronomical. Finally, his fellow inmates would be in no position to exploit any information they would get from him.

But it still wouldn't hurt to put him in solitary.
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He's already known as the "disgraced president."
I'd be satisfied to see a few journalists throw their shoes at him.
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Like Manafort, solitary confinement.
Trump, Manafort, Flynn, Stone, Ivanca, Jared, and Don Jr. can keep each other company. Perhaps a little pickup basketball. Shit, if we get the entire group of Trump co-conspirators, we can just use what's left of Trumps money and build them there own prison.
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Let's say that the Democratic fever dream comes true and Donald Trump ends up in prison. We now have inmate Trump, a man who had access to all of the United States' most closely held secrets and a man who has absolutely no qualms about burning down the country for his own benefit or amusement, in prison. How exactly do we deal with that situation?
He's already trying to burn the country down for his own benefit. The only difference is he won't be able to tweet all the time when in prison. Won't that be nice!
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If NCAA championships can be vacated, why not US presidencies? The line from 2017-2021* would just be blank.

Assuming he's not removed before then. If he is, there'd be another blank for the interim.
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If NCAA championships can be vacated, why not US presidencies? The line from 2017-2021* would just be blank.

Assuming he's not removed before then. If he is, there'd be another blank for the interim.
Do we get to vacate all his shitty judicial nominations, too?
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No way. He won't be anything. Damnatio memoriae is the order of the day. When his supporters talk about how much they miss Trump, the only acceptable response should be "Who?"
The frustration the Trump fans would feel would be satisfying to the rest of us.

But I was serious about the change in American attitudes toward the rest of the world (and vice versa). It will be decades before an American politician can smugly assert US superiority---at least without being greeted with gales of laughter.

That, at least, is a good thing.
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He's already trying to burn the country down for his own benefit. The only difference is he won't be able to tweet all the time when in prison. Won't that be nice!

Oh, he'll still manage to tweet.
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Elected president Donald Trump.

And probably 2nd term president Donald Trump as well.

And when he is done he will saunter onto the sidelines with zero repercussions for his actions, it's not Donald Trump that needs insulting here.
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Elected president Donald Trump.
Electoral College Trump - EC*45, cheated yet still lost popular vote by 3,000,000

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And when he is done he will saunter onto the sidelines with zero repercussions for his actions, it's not Donald Trump that needs insulting here.
He doesn't saunter. More like lumber or shamble. Zero repercussions for The National Disgrace? Not bloody likely. Actually, a disgrace to the planet and the species.
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God damnit!!!!
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I've no doubt you would have said similar before he was elected the first time.

America elected him, America will re-elect him.
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I think there's the potential for a lot of cautionary fables. For example, The Man Who Cried "Lock Her Up" in which he, of course, ends up getting locked up himself.
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"Disgraced" is not something the Republican party and its base actually is capable of showing anymore. Ollie North is still a hero. Newt Gingrich is working for Fox News. No matter what occurs, the base will believe Trump is, if not blameless, then just a really good businessman who took advantage of loopholes. And, as long as there is still money and power to be had, the Republicans in power will continue to be apologists.

Trump, himself, is incapable of considering himself disgraced, and the base will continue to believe him.
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Elected president Donald Trump.
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With fewer votes for than against. It childishly bothers him that he's not popular, and that's amusing.
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America elected Donald Trump its president. Thats a simple fact.

I've no doubt you would have said similar before he was elected the first time.

America elected him, America will re-elect him.
The only reason Trump got elected was because a massive campaign of lies conducted by foreign enemies and criminals convinced a significant number of people that neither option was better than the other, resulting in them staying home and allowing Trump to squeak by on his losing numbers thanks to national (and founding-father intentional!) gerrymandering.

The gerrymandering will remain. The hostile foreign powers and criminals will remain. But this time 65% of america cannot possibly be convinced that any other option is as bad as Trump.

Trump may remain president until the natural end of his term. (Though I kind of doubt it.) To remain president after that would literally require widespread vote tampering by literal enemies of the state.
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The only reason Trump got elected was because a massive campaign of lies conducted by foreign enemies and criminals convinced a significant number of people that neither option was better than the other, resulting in them staying home and allowing Trump to squeak by on his losing numbers thanks to national (and founding-father intentional!) gerrymandering.

The gerrymandering will remain. The hostile foreign powers and criminals will remain. But this time 65% of america cannot possibly be convinced that any other option is as bad as Trump.

Trump may remain president until the natural end of his term. (Though I kind of doubt it.) To remain president after that would literally require widespread vote tampering by literal enemies of the state.
Don't drive yourself crazy. No matter how it happens or how long it takes, he will go down in history as disgraced former president Trump, if not something worse.
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