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Old 05-16-2017, 11:28 PM
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The Orville-Seth McFarlane

Trailer here

Looks like a cross between Quark and Galaxy Quest.

I'll watch it just because my 9 year old self would have loved it.
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It's been making the Facebook rounds and I love it!

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It looks like it has high production costs. Maybe it'll be a hit, though.
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I'm wary of it if McFarlane is writing it, given the quality of his jokes lately.

It does look interesting, but it didn't make me laugh. Though, the jokes were better than I expected. I worry they are the best ones, though.
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I'd be into it, if MacFarlane's weren't such a backpfeifengesicht.
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I'll give it a shot, but most of those jokes in the trailer were barely worth a chuckle, IMO. But I want to encourage networks to try shows like this, so I'll give it a try.
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It looks like expensive tedium - the stupid humor turned up to 11, and the wit and intelligence left behind. For an SNL skit, that works. For a series... I think the possibilities will be exhausted by the first commercial break of the second episode.

Too bad. I really would have liked to see a complex take on Galaxy Quest, caught between the old series, the new series and the Thermian reality.
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I think it looks like a hoot.

The comedy seems to fit into the not overtly stupid (like Angie Tribeca) but also not offensive (most of Seth's other shows).

I doubt it'll be a smash hit, but I don't think it'll bomb either. The only reservation I have is that the trailer made it seem more like a movie and less like a series.
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I was fascinated by the production values, which appeared to be very high. The trailer - which is quite clearly at least 90% from the pilot, if not entirely - looks like a trailer for a feature film, not a television show.

The show is being billed as a "comedy-drama" so it'll be interesting to see if MacFarlane has the chops to make it something other than Family Guy in Space. I love Family Guy, but he has his failures, too. Jon Favreau's involvement is a good sign.

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Not even remotely funny.
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I don't think it's going to be, or supposed to be, knee-slappingly hilarious, but it definitely looks entertaining.

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I thought the production values were good but didn't crack a smile during the promo.
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I don't think it's going to be, or supposed to be, knee-slappingly hilarious, but it definitely looks entertaining.
The bit with the mint/marbles seems to set the bar pretty low. Anything that plays off the incompetence of a main character is likely to be reaching/repeating/plagiarizing within the first season.
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Looks funny. And Spacey. And they gave the robot a gun. All points in its favor.
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Will they do things like visit "The Planet of the Perpetually Offended."? Seems to me you can really only make commentary like that if your character is something of an asshole. Like Stewie or Cartman...or that new Joel McHale show. I havent seen it but he appears terribly smug at least.
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So far, extremely unimpressive.

The worst thing is that for a trailer like this, they showcased all of the best jokes. If those were the best, it's in tremendous trouble.
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It looks better than the real one coming out soon. Which isn't saying much. I suspect it will steal Star Trek Discovery's thunder.
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So far, extremely unimpressive.

The worst thing is that for a trailer like this, they showcased all of the best jokes. If those were the best, it's in tremendous trouble.
The iupside of course is that the trailer can be interpreted as trying to cover the essential elements of the show's premise, and in two minutes they tried to fit all that in:

1. It is a visually impressive science fiction series.
2. The main character is a likable doofus who's being given a dream job he's terrified to screw up. That's something the network would insist on to add comfort to the audience, because most comedies are anchored around a likable doofus.
3. There's a cool spaceship and the special effects are very good, so you'll like the visuals of the show
4. The central funny conflict is that the doofus captain's first officer is his ex-wife, which promises tension and laughter and sarcasm.
5. There are a number of amusing supporting characters:
- A weird alien who deadpans every line
- A small woman who is superhumanly strong
- A drunk helmsman
- A wise cracking black guy
- A violent robot
6. There'a a funny alien blob thing with Norm MacDonald's voice
7. There's action and shooting and stuff

So it's not so much that they covered all the jokes as they covered all the essential elements that make the show attractive.
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I will be all over this - and saving the six bucks (or whatever it''s up to) on CBS All-Access.
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... saving the six bucks (or whatever it''s up to) on CBS All-Access.
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I plan to watch. The premise seems better suited to a mini series format.

I hope they can sustain the storyline & jokes throughout a long season.

Their rip on Star Trek is very spot on. Seth dealing with his ex as first officer parodies Riker and Trio's prior relationship.

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I think that it will have enough material for about half a season, then it will die, unless they decide to find a serious approach to being funny.
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I'm sure they'll have at least a few funny scenes on interspecies mating. Oh no! My part doesn't fit into your part. The ultimate frustration. LOL

I always wanted to see a species invulnerable to hand phasers. They just yawn and look bemused as the crew fires at them.

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The iupside of course is that the trailer can be interpreted as trying to cover the essential elements of the show's premise, and in two minutes they tried to fit all that in:

1. It is a visually impressive science fiction series.
2. The main character is a likable doofus who's being given a dream job he's terrified to screw up. That's something the network would insist on to add comfort to the audience, because most comedies are anchored around a likable doofus.
3. There's a cool spaceship and the special effects are very good, so you'll like the visuals of the show
4. The central funny conflict is that the doofus captain's first officer is his ex-wife, which promises tension and laughter and sarcasm.
5. There are a number of amusing supporting characters:
- A weird alien who deadpans every line
- A small woman who is superhumanly strong
- A drunk helmsman
- A wise cracking black guy
- A violent robot
6. There'a a funny alien blob thing with Norm MacDonald's voice
7. There's action and shooting and stuff

So it's not so much that they covered all the jokes as they covered all the essential elements that make the show attractive.
Well, nothing on that list makes it seem attractive, other than checking off the checklist of cliches. So:

1. That and a buck won't even get you an item on the dollar menu.
2. I don't see why he's particularly likeable -- he's a moron.
3. This is a comedy. The special effects don't make it funny. Actually, it would be funnier if the effects were cheesy.
4. Cliche. And his reaction to it wasn't funny.
5. Cliche, cliche, cliche, BIG cliche, just a lame old switcheroo.
6. Having a recognizable voice does not improve a lame joke.
7. So? This is a comedy. For it to appeal it has to be funny. It wasn't.
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Looks mildly amusing. If it lasts three episodes I might check it out on Hulu.
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Well, nothing on that list makes it seem attractive, other than checking off the checklist of cliches.
Exactly.

And I cannot disagree more with the notion that bad special effects would make it funnier. No, they'd make it worse.
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I'm leaning towards no. Also, T-Rex's "Bang A Gong" sounds like the place holder song they were going to use until they found the real song.

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It looks better than the real one coming out soon. Which isn't saying much. I suspect it will steal Star Trek Discovery's thunder.
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It's funny because "Orville" sounds like "awful". So it's like the ship is called The Awful, which means that awful things will happen on it and it will be awfully funny. If you're 12 and have suffered head trauma, say.
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It looks interesting. I'll definitely check it out. It could easily be awful, but maybe not.

"Last Man on Earth" is a "comedy" that frankly isn't all that funny, but I still find it intriguing and enjoyable.
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I read a review today (can't link at the moment) that said that while Fox is trying to promote this as a joke filled parody, the actual show is more straight sci fi with comedic moments. That actually makes it more interesting to me.
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I read a review today (can't link at the moment) that said that while Fox is trying to promote this as a joke filled parody, the actual show is more straight sci fi with comedic moments. That actually makes it more interesting to me.

That's exactly what I was expecting. Network TV has been getting a little loose with their labels lately. I believe they have "This is Us" labeled as a Comedy-drama. Which seems rather dubious to me.
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As a longtime Trekker (as is MacFarlane: http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Rivers) and someone who really enjoyed Galaxy Quest, I'll definitely check it out. Looks like it has potential.
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So from the episode list on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Orville#Episodes

Hrm ... Farveru directed the pilot. Seth McFarlane did one. Braga. Johnathan Frakes. A number of notable directors. Hey, the sets are built, the jokes are written, the effects budget was planned. And they got good directors. I'm pretty excited to see Seth McFarlane acting IRL. At the very least, I hope it lasts the season.

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Thanks for the heads up. I'll watch, if only because Babu from Seinfeld is in it.
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My expectations are low but I'll be giving it a shot. I won't be surprised if it feels more Trek than the new Star Trek: Discovery will.
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I read a review today (can't link at the moment) that said that while Fox is trying to promote this as a joke filled parody, the actual show is more straight sci fi with comedic moments. That actually makes it more interesting to me.
I read an interview with McFarlane and he said it will be the Star Trek show we wish we'd gotten instead of Discovery. He's a big Trek fan. I'm hopeful and looking forward to it.
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Thanks for the heads up. I'll watch, if only because Babu from Seinfeld is in it.
I believe you mean Dr. Bashir's dad from DS9 is in it.
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Any star trek parody requires unholstered boobs floating in zero gravity.

Maybe a thin tunic or shirt would still be Fox family friendly?

Nearly all fan fiction throws in material mainstream tv fears to address.

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In the entire history of Star Trek there has been exactly one scene with zero gravity, and did not involve any boobs. (Except perhaps Dr. McCoy.)
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I was referring to fan fiction parodies.

Isn't that the idea behind The Orville? Take the funniest and most irreverent ideas from fan fiction and put them on the screen. It would have been perfect for HBO or Showtime.

They can still do some hilarious bits and spoofs on Fox.

Ill watch for awhile. I'm concerned they'll use up their best gags in the two hour pilot.

Maybe the writers will surprise us.

They'll have to pick a direction. Broad parody or maybe drama with a few gags. I can't see it working if they get serious one week and do fart jokes the next week.

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I was referring to fan fiction parodies.

Isn't that the idea behind The Orville?
No.
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It probably says more about me than the quality of the show that I laughed at every joke. I'll at least put it on my list of new shows to check out.
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Belly laughs are the best kind.

I like all kinds of humor from the 3 Stooges all the way to sitcoms like The Mary Tyler Moore show and Modern Family.

It's all good.
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In the entire history of Star Trek there has been exactly one scene with zero gravity, and did not involve any boobs. (Except perhaps Dr. McCoy.)
I imagine you're thinking of the scene with the Klingon ship in ST 6, but there was at least one other zero gravity scene, in an early episode of DS9, where Bashir has a relationship with a woman from a low gravity world who likes to turn the gravity off in her quarters.
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That just takes me to the front page of YouTube. Can anyone provide another link directly to the video, and preferably not mobile?
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I imagine you're thinking of the scene with the Klingon ship in ST 6, but there was at least one other zero gravity scene, in an early episode of DS9, where Bashir has a relationship with a woman from a low gravity world who likes to turn the gravity off in her quarters.
Good point. That episode was pretty terrible tho so I guess I blocked it out.
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