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Old 11-03-2018, 04:41 PM
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Mayonnaise: Hellmanís vs. Dukeís

As a lifelong Yankee and only occasional eater of mayonnaise, I am a loyal Hellmanís customer and was unaware of the existence of Dukeís until just recently.

I picked up a jar of Dukeís in Cleveland (that bastion of Old Dixie), noting the vibrant yellow hue (extra egg yolks) and absence of added sugar.

Just curious about othersí takes on whether this stuff is better than Hellmanís, or not, or how itís different, or whether itís good-in-salads-but-not-sandwiches or vice versa, and why.

(As everyone knows, Hellmanís west of the Mississippi is Best Foods)

(Eaters of Miracle Whip are courteously disinvited to this thread)
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Old 11-03-2018, 05:28 PM
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I was a very firm devotee of Best Foods growing up and as an adult. Then I moved here to South Carolina, was advised to try Duke's, and did so. I won't use any other mayonnaise since.

To me, the key is that you can always sweeten it up with your own sweetener if you want. I find the tangy taste is better in most salads and on sandwiches. Indeed, I often now dislike store-brand potato salad and macaroni salad, because they inevitably use something more like Hellman's.
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Old 11-03-2018, 05:43 PM
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Never heard of Duke's, but am a Best Foods guy. Tried a store brand once. Never again. I'll pay the extra.
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Duke's. Forever and always. It's a steady purchase on Amazon Prime.
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Old 11-03-2018, 07:11 PM
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Weíve only tried Dukeís within the past year, it had never been available here. I like it, but my teen absolutely loves it, she thinks itís a world of difference. I do think itís better.
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Duke’s!

Second is Kraft Mayo

Third is Hellman’s/Best

Fourth is Kraft Miracle Whip—yes, I’ll occasionally have it. It’s not terrible

What I’m curious about is this Japanese Kewpie mayonnaise that I’ve been hearing about. Anyone have thoughts on that?
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Yes, Duke's my man. I do add sugar when using in Pimento cheese and Potato salad. On sandwiches I use it as is.
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Hellmann's, because it's unarguably the Best.
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Old 11-03-2018, 07:56 PM
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To me, the key is that you can always sweeten it up with your own sweetener if you want. I find the tangy taste is better in most salads and on sandwiches. Indeed, I often now dislike store-brand potato salad and macaroni salad, because they inevitably use something more like Hellman's.
This is the stuff! Facts! Or at least opinions. Thank you. The more info, the more my Ignorance is fought.

The tangy aspect sounds great. I have no idea why anyone would want to sweeten mayo.
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This is interesting. I didn't know that there was a national divide over mayonnaise.

Many years ago I learned that it was handy to have a jar of real mayo on hand; so that if I wanted to have an anchovy mayo with lamb or a lime mayo with fish or a sriracha mayo with wings or any other flavored mayo, it was just a moment away.

At the time I was told the only such mayo was Hellman's and though, then, it was difficult to get I have used it ever since. I will keep an eye out for some Duke's and see what the difference is.
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Best Foods/Hellman's. The tangy thing is exactly what I dislike about Duke's. In fact most fancier, specialty store-bought mayonnaise I've tried has gone too heavy with the citrus or similar notes for my taste. Just doesn't work for me. By the same token I also really dislike Miracle Whip, which is similarly a little tangier.

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Old 11-03-2018, 09:09 PM
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I've never seen Duke's Mayo in local stores.
Never heard of it before this thread.

I've bought Hellmann's most of my adult life. I prefer it over Kraft.
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Hellman's, Duke's, or Blue Plate; they all taste good to me. I have very egalitarian views of mayonnaise.
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I should note that the wife keeps Blue Plate on hand as well for certain applications.
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This is interesting. I didn't know that there was a national divide over mayonnaise.
Yeah, right? Isnít it TOTALLY COOL?

Now I canít wait to finish up the open jar of Hellmanís because Iím dying to try the Dukeís in potato salad, a tuna sandwich, or a BLT.

(If I had two open jars of mayo in the fridge, the Ukulele Lady would strangle me with her bare hands)
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Yeah, right? Isnít it TOTALLY COOL?

Now I canít wait to finish up the open jar of Hellmanís because Iím dying to try the Dukeís in potato salad, a tuna sandwich, or a BLT.

(If I had two open jars of mayo in the fridge, the Ukulele Lady would strangle me with her bare hands)
What? You can't drop the jar on the floor and break it? Or have noticed it's started to grow something on top so you tossed it, while she was out?
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Sadly, I am far too cheap to throw away four ounces of perfectly delicious Hellman’s mayonnaise.

I grew up in the Depression, when I had to trade a handful of magic beans for a jar of mayo.
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Old 11-03-2018, 09:33 PM
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Sadly, I am far too cheap to throw away four ounces of perfectly delicious Hellmanís mayonnaise.

I grew up in the Depression, when I had to trade a handful of magic beans for a jar of mayo.
You could just open them all and rotate them.
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Old 11-03-2018, 09:40 PM
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What Iím curious about is this Japanese Kewpie mayonnaise that Iíve been hearing about. Anyone have thoughts on that?
I have some Kewpie in my fridge now. It's got a much eggier taste than Hellmann's, with no sweetness, and the vinegar tang is slightly different, as they use rice vinegar. The biggest thing for me, though, is that it has this salty umami savoriness from the MSG in it. I love MSG and use it in my cooking, but I'm not sure I really like it in my mayo. It tastes right for me on sushi rolls and things like that, but when it comes to mayo for sandwiches, I prefer Hellmann's, or Costco's Kirkland mayo.
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Old 11-03-2018, 10:06 PM
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I used to buy only Kraft mayo, but they changed their recipe and lost the light lemon tang. My son was a big fan of Hellman's so I tried it and switched. Then, Duke's came into my kitchen...and the rest is history.

Miracle Whip is of the Devil.

Protip: after you finish the jar, the Duke's lid fits perfectly on a canning jar. Great for storage.
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Old 11-03-2018, 11:28 PM
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I've never heard of Duke's until this thread. There is now a jar in my Amazon cart.


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Old 11-04-2018, 12:21 AM
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For those who have never seen Duke's in your store, it's because it's a regional brand localized to the South. Thank goodness Amazon allows those of you who aren't blessed with it on your store shelves to obtain it anyway.

As for why you would want to sweeten it, I'm not sure. But almost all store-bought mayo is sweetened with sugar. I know people who can't stand a potato salad that doesn't have that sweetness built into the salad. I'm generally the opposite, as I dislike sweet potato salad, and am not a real fan of sweet coleslaw, either.
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I'm not a mayonnaise specialist; as long as it's actual mayo and not Miracle Whip etc, I'll be fine with it. As far as I know... Not a big user of mayonnaise. I certainly didn't like the very sweet potato salads I've eaten, but I believe those had extra sugar added.

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Blue Plate is the “real” mayo – it contains only egg yolks, not whole eggs, just like you (I?) make it at home. It’s only available in the southern states so I have friends or family who go to Florida in the winter bring me a couple of jars.

Kewpie is another brand that uses only egg yolks. It’s from Japan and a bit hard to find but definitely different enough from Hellman’s to be worth looking for.

I’ve found that not everyone likes the eggy taste of these brands but I sure do.
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I wonder if there’s a sample pack of all these mayos
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If Duke's came in small packets they could stock in the break room I'd try it.

"Tangy" is not an attribute I want in mayonnaise.

Miracle Whip is a plague upon the Earth.

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To me Kewpie tastes richer and thicker. It's good but a little goes a long way, at least for me.
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(As everyone knows, Hellmanís west of the Mississippi is Best Foods)

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I live well west of the Mississippi and we have Hellman's in our grocery stores.

A quick check shows that the Rockies, not the Mississippi is the dividing line. It also shows that by all rights Hellman's ceased to exist in 1927. Best Foods (which was called Postum Foods at the time) bought the name from Richard Hellman that year. Best Foods now sells Best Foods mayonnaise labeled Hellman's. Kind of like the faux Schwinn bikes you can buy at Wal-Mart now that are really made by Pacific Cycle.
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I picked up a jar of Dukeís in Cleveland (that bastion of Old Dixie), noting the vibrant yellow hue (extra egg yolks) and absence of added sugar.
A yellow hue can be due to the mustard content. Have you tried making your own? Egg yolks, oil, and pepper, mustard, and garlic in quantities and potencies to taste. Different oils give different flavours, of course, and I try to stick to olive oil, but not extra virgin olive oil. English mustard vs French mustard is another differentiator, French mustard being milder and giving a more subtle taste. And it keeps for ages in the fridge.
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Will I be scorned if I admit I buy store-brand mayo?
Scorned? No. But I'd politely encourage you to learn from my mistake. One of the few cases where the name brand is vastly superior to the store-brand (Kroger, in my case).
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Scorned? No. But I'd politely encourage you to learn from my mistake. One of the few cases where the name brand is vastly superior to the store-brand (Kroger, in my case).
I was tipped off to Costco's Kirkland mayo by someone on this board, and I thought it was at least as good as Hellman's. Only thing is, it's a giant tub of mayo! I have at least four different mayos in the fridge now: Kewpie, Hellman's, Kraft, and a Hellman's branded for the Polish market (Hellman's Majonez Babuni). Looks I'm out of the Kirkland. I like them all for different things. The Polish Hellman's is the tangiest of the bunch. Seems to have more of a mustard component to it.
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I and just about everyone else have been spelling it wrong in this thread. It's Hellmann's, with two Ns.

http://www.hellmanns.com
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I don't have strong opinions, but they're strong enough that I only buy Duke's. I like some sour in my sandwiches, but don't much care for sugar in them, unless it's coming from a tomato or some really good lettuce or the like. Or, okay, from some Sriracha. But not from the mayo.
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Hmm never heard of Duke's. Now I'm intrigued. Amazon has it for not too crazy of a price (currently $11.57 for 2 16 oz jars, Prime shipping). I'm tempted; that's pricier than Hellmann's but not so much I wouldn't buy it.

I'm a Hellmann's girl, if we're talking what I can buy local.

I do keep Kewpie around, but I don't even really consider it a one-to-one substitute for Hellmann's. I use it for Asian/Japanese dishes, and the occasional sandwich that I want its particular tangy/umami bite. I'd never, for example, use Kewpie for a potato or macaroni salad.

Edit: Oh man, the Duke's Website claims the local Walmart carries it. It's not even a mile away, but in general I avoid the hell-hole that is Walmart. What do I do? WHAT DO I DO?!?

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In my view Hellmann's has the perfect flavor balance for sandwiches that are garnished with lettuce and tomato, as mine usually are, which are often variants on a BLT. It also complements tuna salad sandwiches very well. To my mind it just makes the sandwich taste really good without actually adding noticeable flavor of its own, which makes it the perfect condiment.
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What do I do? WHAT DO I DO?!?
Gird your loins and go to Walmart. It will be worth it. Duke's is.....well, Duke's. To me it is the single best mayo on a BLT. Ditto deviled eggs.
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To me it is the single best mayo on a BLT. Ditto deviled eggs.
Well, that sells me. Unfortunately, itís past prime BLT season here, but Iíll try it with some Kumatoes. And Iíve been craving a good potato-with-egg salad.
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Still Kraft, as I said the last time this was asked.
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Edit: Oh man, the Duke's Website claims the local Walmart carries it. It's not even a mile away, but in general I avoid the hell-hole that is Walmart. What do I do? WHAT DO I DO?!?
I just checked, my Walmart has it too. I could walk there in three minutes.

I'll stick with the jar in my Amazon cart, though. I despise Walmart, and it's not like I need it STAT.


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I'll stick with the jar in my Amazon cart, though. I despise Walmart, and it's not like I need it STAT.
I think I'm gonna go that route as well. With my luck, I'd get to the $#$@# Walmart and they'd be out. Why risk it?
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Homemade mayonnaise is still by far the best.

My wife makes it for large family cookouts. She uses a blender. It's worth the extra cleanup when you're serving 20 burgers.

Make it just before cooking the burgers. We throw out any that's not used.

https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/23...de-mayonnaise/

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Oh, buy fresh eggs the day before and use in the receipe.

Homemade mayo is safe if you take common sense precautions.

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I can make my own better. And cheaper!!!
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If Duke's came in small packets they could stock in the break room I'd try it.
It does.

I'm surprised, btw, about your comment on "tangy". After all, mayonnaise is vinegar and egg and oil, often with a little mustard to season it. Between vinegar and mustard, I'd be shocked that any mayonnaise isn't at least a little tangy.
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Duke's is the king of non-homemade mayos for me. Aside from the taste, I also think the texture is superior to other brands: more smooth and creamy.
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Homemade mayonnaise is still by far the best.

My wife makes it for large family cookouts. She uses a blender. It's worth the extra cleanup when you're serving 20 burgers.

Make it just before cooking the burgers. We throw out any that's not used.

https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/23...de-mayonnaise/
I have a difficult time believing this is worth the trouble or the mess. But that's just me.


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I have a difficult time believing this is worth the trouble or the mess. But that's just me.
Homemade mayo is worth the trouble and the mess, assuming you need more than a tablespoon or so of it. I make it for certain things - as a base for dips & sauces mostly.

But it doesn't keep long in the fridge, a few days at most. So I rely on the jarred stuff for the occasional sandwich spread or whatever. But homemade mayo is glorious, there's no doubt about that.

Oh, and you can make it with less mess with a whisk and a bowl. It's more of a technique than the blender method, but it's not THAT hard to do it manually.
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