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Sauce 9 28.13%
Broth 21 65.63%
Gravy 6 18.75%
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Old 01-09-2019, 11:54 AM
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Milk in cereal: Sauce or Broth?

Or maybe gravy?
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Old 01-09-2019, 12:03 PM
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None of the above. (As in, I'm trying to get into the mindset you're in to ask this question, and I just cannot come up with anything to justify any of those answers. Sauce would probably be the least wrong of the answers, but it's still wrong.)

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Old 01-09-2019, 12:04 PM
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I wouldn't consider it any of the three. I'm not sure what I would call it if I were pressed. Ingredient, I suppose. Not enough has been done to it to be a sauce, broth or gravy.
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Old 01-09-2019, 12:09 PM
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I wouldn't consider it any of the three. I'm not sure what I would call it if I were pressed. Ingredient, I suppose. Not enough has been done to it to be a sauce, broth or gravy.
I add sugar. That makes it a sauce.

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Old 01-09-2019, 12:15 PM
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It's milk.
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Old 01-09-2019, 12:23 PM
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It's a condiment, like syrup on pancakes.
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Old 01-09-2019, 12:28 PM
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It's an ingredient.

Water or broth is an essential ingredient in all versions of the dish soup. Milk is an essential ingredient in all variants of the dish milk-and-cereal.
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Old 01-09-2019, 12:30 PM
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It's a condiment, like syrup on pancakes.
No, the milk is not ON TOP OF the cereal. The cereal is IN the milk.

What do you call the part of stew that isn't the chunks of meat or vegetables? That's the closest analogy I can think of right now.
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Old 01-09-2019, 12:34 PM
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It's a bad idea. Try yoghurt instead.

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Old 01-09-2019, 12:38 PM
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Old 01-09-2019, 12:42 PM
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Etymologically, the closest equivalent would be soup, which derives from the word “sop” — as in milksop, ie bread soaked in milk. As Thudlow Boink correctly pointed out, the cereal is in the milk.
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Old 01-09-2019, 01:10 PM
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Of those, broth makes the most sense. Gravy is thickened broth, and even sauces are a little thicker.

That said, the term really only applies to plant based milks, since they are made with water and the part of the plant in question. Scrolling up, I'll agree that "soup" is the better ally encompassing word.
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Old 01-09-2019, 01:27 PM
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None of the above.
If you're referring to the leftover milk after eating all the cereal out of the bowl I think we typically refer to it as "cereal milk".

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Old 01-09-2019, 01:37 PM
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I think it is broth. Sauce and gravy are both eliminated as I would never eat/drink the remains after the main ingredient is consumed. Also when consuming sauce and gravy, most people would actively try to utilize the potatoes/biscuits/food to sop up and utilize the sauce or gravy to their fullest.

In this case milk is broth as it is consumed afterwards and similar to broth there is no way to actively sop it up completely.
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Old 01-09-2019, 02:18 PM
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I wouldn't consider it any of the three. I'm not sure what I would call it if I were pressed. Ingredient, I suppose. Not enough has been done to it to be a sauce, broth or gravy.
This is the right answer. IMHO.

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I add sugar. That makes it a sauce.

Also allowed.
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Old 01-09-2019, 02:55 PM
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Sometimes the categorization of various things is useful for learning and understanding the world around us. Sometimes it's stupid and useless.
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Old 01-09-2019, 02:59 PM
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Sometimes the categorization of various things is useful for learning and understanding the world around us. Sometimes it's stupid and useless.
It's taking longer than we thought.

Scientific progress goes "Boink!"

That's the beauty of it!
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Of the three options, it's closest to being a sauce - the cereal isn't cooked in it, nor is it cooked using a byproduct of creating the cereal.

But it's not that, either, due to lack of processing as said.

(And Pop Tarts aren't ravioli, either.)
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Old 01-09-2019, 03:11 PM
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If you look at the dictionary definitions of sauce, broth and gravy you'll see milk doesn't fit any of them. This isn't a philosophical question.
Sauce: thick liquid served with food, usually savory dishes, to add moistness and flavor.
Broth: liquid in which meat, fish, cereal grains, or vegetables have been cooked
Gravy: a sauce made from the thickened and seasoned juices of cooked meat

So I guess it's closest to a sauce because it adds moistness. In that case, hot water on your shredded wheat is also a sauce.

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Old 01-09-2019, 03:12 PM
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I said gravy because I pour it over the top and adjust the amount I'm pouring relative its effect on the thing I'm pouring it on. And I pour it on in order to make the thing I'm pouring it on better to eat. If I started with the milk and added the cereal, I might call it a broth. But I think of broths as things that are boiled out of other things, and milk doesn't fit that. I'm not sure why I don't feel as strong an objection when thinking of gravy. Maybe it's because I often put milk into gravy, making milk just an extremely dilute gravy.
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Old 01-09-2019, 03:17 PM
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Moo-juice. I didn't vote on any. They don't fit. I think of all 3 as heated up. Milk is cold.
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Old 01-09-2019, 03:19 PM
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And I add water to gravy sometimes, making water a dilute gravy.
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Old 01-09-2019, 04:44 PM
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Moo-juice. I didn't vote on any. They don't fit. I think of all 3 as heated up. Milk is cold.
Milk can be heated up. Eating cereal with warm milk used to be perfectly normal. Im pretty sure it even used to be part of the advertising, if you look at cereal ads from the 1940s and 50s.
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Old 01-09-2019, 05:13 PM
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It's an ingredient. It isn't a necessary ingredient, because you can eat cereal dry, just like you can eat cookies without chocolate chips. But it's an ingredient of "cereal with milk."

Justification: I have, directly from my pantry, a box of Quaker Oatmeal Squares crunchy oat cereal. The nutritional information panel on the side of the box lists two sets of numbers. One is marked "Cereal Alone" while the other is "With 1/2 Cup Vitamin A&D Fortified Skim Milk." Ergo, milk on cereal is an optional ingredient.

ETA: What naita said, just with more words.

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Old 01-09-2019, 05:27 PM
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Lubricant.
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Old 01-09-2019, 05:29 PM
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None of the above. It's a salad dressing.
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I'm reminded of a time where I was at some place that had a plum sauce on their oatmeal. It must have been left cooking for years slowly killing any flavor other than saccharine and sadness. It was called a sauce but it was really just a sugary paste, only kept moist by the wet oatmeal it was surrounded by.

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Old 01-09-2019, 05:54 PM
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A broth is a smooth liquid used as the basis of many soups. For instance, onion soup can be made by mixing beef broth with onions, butter and wine; chicken noodle soup is made by taking chicken broth and adding noodles. By that logic, milk is to cereal as broth is to soup. Therefore, milk is a broth.
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Old 01-09-2019, 06:18 PM
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If that had been in the poll, I'd have voted for it. Would also have voted for Moistener.

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And I add water to gravy sometimes, making water a dilute gravy.
True.

I've also tasted broths that were pretty much water.
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Broth and gravy are always savory; cereal milk is sweet, so neither of those are appropriate. Sauce can be sweet, so I'll go with that, even though sauce is more viscous than cereal milk.
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Old 01-09-2019, 06:35 PM
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Cereal sauce would be the 'cute, I forgot what that white liquid from cows boobies is called', term. But it's nothing beyond that. Something the listener would need to translate to real terms to make sense of it.
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Interesting. I took this question to mean if we use milk like a sauce (a little bit of milk, to moisten the cereal) or like a broth (a lot of milk, so the cereal is swimming in it.)
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I didn't vote because "None of the Above" wasn't an option.
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It's none of those. Milk and cereal is essentially a type of instant, cold porridge.
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None of the above. It's a salad dressing.
According to this you might be right http://cuberule.com/
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Too bad "revolting" wasn't a choice. But I'm a weirdo who doesn't like cereal and milk.

I think it's important to consider that different people prefer different milk/cereal ratios. Some use just enough milk to moisten the cereal, while others like their cereal swimming in the milk. But assuming that our hypothetical cereal eater uses a more typical ratio:

It's definitely not a broth. Even if you make a soup by combining a pre-made broth with other ingredients, one would normally simmer the ingredients in the broth for a bit, thereby infusing the ingredients with the flavor of a sauce and vice versa.

It's not a sauce, at least by the standards of most sauces. Sauces are generally more flavorful than whatever they are put on, and one would not eat a portion of sauce by itself. People do drink glasses of milk, however. This applies even more strongly to the suggestion of "condiment" above. There are some bland sauces that are used as moisteners, however, and in that case would be roughly equivalent to the function of the milk for people who prefer to add just a little.

Gravy is just a type of sauce.

I vote "component." Both cereal and milk are components of "cereal and milk," just like tomatoes and lettuce are components of a typical garden salad.
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I think of "sauce" as something that sticks to what it's added to- milk doesn't really do that to cereal.
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Milk can be heated up. Eating cereal with warm milk used to be perfectly normal. Im pretty sure it even used to be part of the advertising, if you look at cereal ads from the 1940s and 50s.
Nah. That's just wrong, yuk!
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No, the milk is not ON TOP OF the cereal. The cereal is IN the milk.

What do you call the part of stew that isn't the chunks of meat or vegetables? That's the closest analogy I can think of right now.
Maybe when YOU eat pancakes. When I eat them, they're definitely IN the syrup.
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The cereal is IN the milk.
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the cereal is in the milk.
Both wrong.

The milk is AROUND the cereal.
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Cereal sauce would be the 'cute, I forgot what that white liquid from cows boobies is called', term. . . .
Ah! It's a kenning!
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None of the above. It's a salad dressing.
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Both wrong.

The milk is AROUND the cereal.
Especially if your cereal is coated with a non-nutritive cereal varnish that is semi-permeable and non-osmotic.
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Justification: I have, directly from my pantry, a box of Quaker Oatmeal Squares crunchy oat cereal. The nutritional information panel on the side of the box lists two sets of numbers. One is marked "Cereal Alone" while the other is "With 1/2 Cup Vitamin A&D Fortified Skim Milk." Ergo, milk on cereal is an optional ingredient.
Not saying you can't have cereal alone, but my bag of bread flour gives nutritional information for just flour, that doesn't mean the rest of the bread ingredients are optional.

That nutritional information is given for "Cereal with milk" as well as just for the contents of the box is in fact evidence that "Cereal with milk" is the predominant use for cereal. The nutritional information also being given for just cereal is just evidence cereal is food.
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Is cereal soup?
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Where was the option for "Disgusting dreck I won't have polluting my cereal?"

I hate milk in my cereal. I eat all cold cereals dry.
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"Part of this complete breakfast."
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We had this same debate here a few years ago.

Is breakfast cereal a kind of soup?
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Usually I end up with more milk than cereal so maybe Cereal Soup. Cream of Cereal? Cereal Consomme? Crunchy Mush?

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