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The real question would seem to be how does the Republican party plan to continue being the party of more or less a rudderless pirate ship.
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A Cincinnati Enquirer journalist visited rural Ohio, just before the recent Democratic debate, and interviewed several residents, most of which were Trump supporters and this was his conclusion:

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/new...ry/3828368002/

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Every person I talked to about Trump, generally said:

He was the lesser of two evils – and still is.

I like what he's doing on the economy.

I wish he'd stop tweeting.

Sounds like the same thing Trump supporters in Greater Cincinnati – and everywhere else in Ohio – say.
It's the economy stupid! It has been, and always will be.
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A Cincinnati Enquirer journalist visited rural Ohio, just before the recent Democratic debate, and interviewed several residents, most of which were Trump supporters and this was his conclusion:

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/new...ry/3828368002/



It's the economy stupid! It has been, and always will be.
Trump supporters generally support Trump? What a shock! Fascinating journalism.
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Trump supporters generally support Trump? What a shock! Fascinating journalism.
But this part of the country has been Democrat historically. I have yet to see the Democratic party address the misgivings that the Clinton campaign failed on, and allowed Trump to win in the first place. Their platform seems to be "Get the asshole out of the White House", which I'm not opposed to, but it seems to not be a strategy that will win the disenfranchised back.
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But this part of the country has been Democrat historically. I have yet to see the Democratic party address the misgivings that the Clinton campaign failed on, and allowed Trump to win in the first place. Their platform seems to be "Get the asshole out of the White House", which I'm not opposed to, but it seems to not be a strategy that will win the disenfranchised back.
Rural white parts of Ohio haven't been Democratic in a long time, in my understanding.
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With the above in mind, does the Republican Party expect to survive? I'm sure they would answer yes. My follow-up question would then be to ask just how they propose to entice new voters in the next decades. Intolerance and xenophobia will only get you so far.
Keeping taxes (relatively) low and emphasizing fiscal responsibility (assuming the party ever gets back to that) tends to attract quite a few followers.

If Democrats/liberals are counting on demographics to ensure that Republicans/conservatives become obsolete, they'll be in for a lot of disappointment in years to come. Newly arrived immigrants and young voters have a habit of moving rightwards in their political leanings as time goes on.
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Keeping taxes (relatively) low and emphasizing fiscal responsibility (assuming the party ever gets back to that) tends to attract quite a few followers.
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Except that they have only been keeping taxes low for the very rich.

And increasing the deficit hugely.
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If Democrats/liberals are counting on demographics to ensure that Republicans/conservatives become obsolete, they'll be in for a lot of disappointment in years to come. Newly arrived immigrants and young voters have a habit of moving rightwards in their political leanings as time goes on.
Tell that to the Republicans in California. Immigrants who hear one party tell them that they are awful people might not be that willing to join that party. Unless they get really rich, maybe.
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Keeping taxes (relatively) low and emphasizing fiscal responsibility (assuming the party ever gets back to that) tends to attract quite a few followers.

If Democrats/liberals are counting on demographics to ensure that Republicans/conservatives become obsolete, they'll be in for a lot of disappointment in years to come. Newly arrived immigrants and young voters have a habit of moving rightwards in their political leanings as time goes on.
Republicans/conservatives won't be going obsolete, no matter what, but the two newest generations of voters won't be drifting rightwards, either, except relatively to the generations which follow them. Core values don't change over time and the belief that people get more conservative as they age is pretty much an old wives' tale. Compared to 1994, the only generation more conservative now is the Silent one.
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