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The Flash Season 6


The Flash returns for its sixth season on Tuesday at 8 ET. Hopefully this season will come out better than the last one, and they won't just keep letting the Big Bad go because of reasons. Word of God is that the season will be split into two halves (Pre-Crisis and Post-Crisis?) each with their own Big Bad. Given the tag from last season, where the future newspaper ("Flash Missing - Vanishes in Crisis") in the Time Vault changed its date from 2024 to 2019, I expect the first half of the season to focus heavily on the coming Crisis. (See also Tom Cavanaugh's role below.)

Cast changes: No changes to the main cast. Tom Cavanagh will be playing a new version of Harrison Wells as well as Pariah. Sendhil Ramamurthy will have a recurring role as Ramsey Russo/Bloodwork, the Big Bad of the first half of season. Keynan Lonsdale will be coming back as Wally West/Kid Flash, at least for a few episodes.

Comic-Con 2019 Sizzle: https://youtu.be/1RCKWBaiUS0
Hit the Ground Running Trailer: https://youtu.be/YUihWQbLtK4
Love is Power Trailer: https://youtu.be/vFN10szZfnY

S06E01: Into the Void

SEASON PREMIERE - While Barry and Iris deal with the heartbreaking loss of their daughter, Nora, the team faces their greatest threat yet - one that threatens to destroy all of Central City. Meanwhile, Killer Frost has a brush with death that results in an unexpected new dynamic that will change her relationship with Caitlin forever.
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Hopefully this season will come out better than the last one, and they won't just keep letting the Big Bad go because of reasons. Word of God is that the season will be split into two halves (Pre-Crisis and Post-Crisis?) each with their own Big Bad.
Good. I've said multiple times they need to adopt the "pod" model that Agents of SHIELD used. 20+ episodes is just too much for one big bad.


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So is Cisco still around? I thought he was leaving.
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So is Cisco still around? I thought he was leaving.
Cisco is not only still around but also, going by the trailers, bringing his girlfriend with him into the Cortex.
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Cisco is not only still around but also, going by the trailers, bringing his girlfriend with him into the Cortex.
For some reason that sounds dirty.
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For some reason that sounds dirty.
*insert Vibe joke here*
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Cisco's best pop culture reference ever. Beats his Dreamscape reference from season 1 or 2.

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Old 10-08-2019, 11:55 PM
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DIIIIVE!!!

I thought the beginning was pretty low-key, what with them mourning the loss of Nora, but things ramped up really, really quickly. Barry has traded saving the city from an apocalyptic vortex at the end of the season to saving it at the start of the season. Plus the Monitor showed up to warn? inform? Barry of what's going to happen in the coming Crisis. But why didn't he show up on Earth-38 to warn Kara? And no mention of the deal Oliver made.

Some nice little touches: Joe and Iris wearing similar hats at the backyard barbecue. Ralph spending the summer looking for Sue. Ralph's interactions with Caitlin and Killer Frost. Killer Frost's new suit.
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S06E02: A Flash of Lightning


JOHN WESLEY SHIPP TO GUEST STAR - Faced with the news of his impending death, Barry's resiliency suffers as he struggles to fight fate. Meanwhile, Cecile's career as a D.A. conflicts with her identity when she crosses paths with a villainous meta-human.

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I'm getting the feeling that this show is spinning its wheels until the Crisis happens. Especially as all the Crisis-related stuff seems to be happening over in Arrow. The Monitor did show up last week, but only to warn Barry about the Crisis. He then disappears to apparently do stuff with Oliver. [LaMonica Garrett was listed in the credits last week, not as a guest star but as part of the main cast. He wasn't included this week, but was credited on Arrow, again as a main cast member of that show.]

After Barry finds out about the fate of the multiverse, and his own fate, I was afraid we were going to get angsty Allen again. But then CAPTAIN Joe West shows up to give him a pep talk and makes everything better again. But Barry was pretty much out of it for most of the episode. Fortunately the B- and C-plots were a lot more interesting than usual. Great to see Team Flash having lives that don't necessarily revolve around S.T.A.R. Labs and being in Team Flash. Also great to see Iris slowly assembling her own team of journalists. Maybe after the Crisis and the Earths merge she can hire Kara.
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Re: Crisis (potential spoiler for those who know only the TV series)
SPOILER:
While I know that it was the result of Crisis on Infinite Earths in comic form, is it confirmed they are merging Earths?
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You make a good point. I just assumed things would play out similarly to the comics, but maybe the TV version will be different. I've actually made a separate thread for the crossover. Maybe we could continue discussion there: Crisis on Infinite Earths.
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S06E03: Dead Man Running

GET READY FOR A KILLER PARTY - Knowing that Crisis is only weeks away, Barry prepares a member of Team Flash for life without him while hunting a terrifying meta-human with an unquenchable thirst. Meanwhile, Ralph uncovers a family secret.

Dead Man Running promo: https://youtu.be/XAuCelzIkog

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Lot of different threads being teased in these first couple episodes. So far we've got:
-The Crisis
-Evil? Mohinder
-Weird Godspeed bots/clones/zombies from the future
-Secret meta capturing organization
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So Barry reprimands Killer Frost for throwing the Romero zombie out the window, but then later stuffs him so full of dark matter that he explodes. What happened to trying to save him?

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Lot of different threads being teased in these first couple episodes. So far we've got:
-The Crisis
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-Weird Godspeed bots/clones/zombies from the future
-Secret meta capturing organization
There's also Ralph's search for the love of his life, Killer Frost's journey to get a life, Iris setting up the Central City Citizen, and now the new Harrison Wells. I've been complaining about the sheer number of plot threads that Supergirl has, but somehow it doesn't seem as bad on this show. Perhaps the because the writers have done a better job of integrating the plots. Like how Iris's new cub reporter led her and Cisco to cross paths with the new Wells. And Killer Frost's plotline intersected with both Bloodwork and Barry's realization that he has to tell Team Flash about what happens in the Crisis.
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-Evil? Mohinder
I'm not the only one who can't be bothered to learn this character's name
And I still keep thinking "you beautiful, stupid man." at him.
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Was it ever explained why they refer to the speedster clones as "Godspeed"?
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And I still keep thinking "you beautiful, stupid man." at him.
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Was it ever explained why they refer to the speedster clones as "Godspeed"?
Because they have the same uniform as Nora's nemesis in the future. When he was first introduced, he called himself the "God of Speed".
The Flash S05E18 "Godspeed": https://youtu.be/2C8KOACqAVs?t=50
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So Barry reprimands Killer Frost for throwing the Romero zombie out the window, but then later stuffs him so full of dark matter that he explodes. What happened to trying to save him?
Did Frost blast Romero out of the window before or after determining he was already dead? That may be why they were willing to use terminal force on him later.

Did I miss anyone mentioning Ms. Dibny's boyfriend, Marv (Wolfman) (George) Perez?

ETA: He's still Mohinder in my household also.
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I just got that reference.
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S06E04: There Will Be Blood


HALLOWEEN EPISODE - Barry's efforts to prepare Cisco for Crisis are derailed when Cisco schemes to save Barry's life instead. Meanwhile, Ramsey Rosso uses his deadly new abilities to save his own life, while sacrificing his humanity in the process.

There Will Be Blood promo: https://youtu.be/VLaOWM2wKPs
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I don't think there's any doubt that Dr. Suresh is evil now. Turning cancer patients into zombies, only for them to dissolve into black goo. Team Flash surmised correctly that Mohinder was using them as incubators to produce said goo. If they were smart they'd realize that he'd be back to collect his harvest, but I didn't see them gathering any of it up to potentially lure him into a trap.

More than half the episode was spent on various members of Team Flash trying to come to terms with impending Barry's demise. There as even a Last Supper-like vignette. While Cisco was angry and Ralph was sulky (and Frost was frosty), I thought Joe was taking the news rather well. Then came the waterworks at the end of the episode. Good God, it hit me right in the feels. Jesse L. Martin is a treasure.

"Nash" Wells going down into the sewer. Is he after crocodiles? Gorillas? Turtles? No, it turns out he's after the Monitor. Is he working for the Anti-Monitor? Is he Pariah? I guess we'll see in six weeks or less.
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S06E05: Kiss Kiss Breach Breach


DANNY TREJO GUEST STARS - Cisco's faith in his ability to fill Barry's shoes as Team Leader is upended when he learns of a shocking murder. Meanwhile, Killer Frost trusts no one except herself to hunt down the dangerous Ramsey Rosso.

Kiss Kiss Breach Breach promo: https://youtu.be/t6-g6HxR6mo
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Can I just say it's refreshing to not have the first half a season being spent on trying to figure out who the bad guy even is?
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Kind of a filler episode tonight. Barry and Iris go off on vacation (so Grant Gustin can go shoot the crossover?) leaving Cisco to hold down the fort. A lot of good Cisco moments, seemingly unrelated to either the Crisis or Mohinder, that still managed to advance to latter two plots. Are they setting him up to get his Vibe powers back, now that we know breach psychosis is a thing?

Gypsy was chasing after Echo, as in Reverb, as in Vibe, so I thought it was pretty transparent who the killer was. Those breach cops from Earth-19 don't do their job very well, do they? Too bad about Gypsy - killed off screen. I guess they need an excuse for her not to appear in the Crisis.

This episode seemed to be showing us that Team Flash could function without the Flash. Cisco had an inter-dimensional adventure, even though he doesn't have any powers. Frost/Caitlin had a run-in with the Big Bad. Joe got to meet with the new "Nash" Wells. The writers are really setting us up there, aren't they?
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You have a best friend, who you love (because he does have some good qualities), but who makes consistently horrible decisions. Dependably awful. And you decide to make a machine that "thinks like him" so that you can follow his bad advice even when he's not around.
Thereby proving that you, too, should not be in charge of decision making.
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You have a best friend, who you love (because he does have some good qualities), but who makes consistently horrible decisions. Dependably awful. And you decide to make a machine that "thinks like him" so that you can follow his bad advice even when he's not around.
Thereby proving that you, too, should not be in charge of decision making.
Also, his favorite thing that his wife makes him for breakfast is “a banana”.

Wait, what?
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To be fair, Barry did correctly predict that Cisco would give up on B.A.R.I. He knows himself quite well.
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Speaking of Cisco giving up on stuff, I wanted to make sure: he could’ve just kept his powers while still showing up for work at Team Flash, right? Or he could’ve given up his powers while quitting the ‘hero’ business? Or he could’ve kept the powers while quitting the ‘hero’ business?

But he instead ditched the powers and — kept doing his old job, working alongside his superhero teammates and opposing superpowered villains?

Who is that helping?
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You have a best friend, who you love (because he does have some good qualities), but who makes consistently horrible decisions. Dependably awful. And you decide to make a machine that "thinks like him" so that you can follow his bad advice even when he's not around.
Thereby proving that you, too, should not be in charge of decision making.
At least in this episode Barry's decisions were not awful. Cisco's decisions were fair - but Joe's were really bad (going on secret spying missions without telling anyone where you are or what you're up to - classic Team Flash blundering).
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Speaking of Cisco giving up on stuff, I wanted to make sure: he could’ve just kept his powers while still showing up for work at Team Flash, right? Or he could’ve given up his powers while quitting the ‘hero’ business? Or he could’ve kept the powers while quitting the ‘hero’ business?

But he instead ditched the powers and — kept doing his old job, working alongside his superhero teammates and opposing superpowered villains?

Who is that helping?
Truth.

Except, you know, having Cisco being able to Portal out of anywhere, or into anywhere, is just too plot-convenient, and resolves stories too easily. The Cisco portal-buttons he made are equally as bad, but since they are devices, they can't be everywhere at once like Cisco could.

Portals would also make Crisis too easy to solve for Barry.
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Speaking of Cisco giving up on stuff, I wanted to make sure: he could’ve just kept his powers while still showing up for work at Team Flash, right? Or he could’ve given up his powers while quitting the ‘hero’ business? Or he could’ve kept the powers while quitting the ‘hero’ business?

But he instead ditched the powers and — kept doing his old job, working alongside his superhero teammates and opposing superpowered villains?

Who is that helping?
I feel like they could have set it up better by making him lose control of his "Dead Zone" power. So he's constantly having visions to the point where he can't function normally.
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I feel like they could have set it up better by making him lose control of his "Dead Zone" power. So he's constantly having visions to the point where he can't function normally.
And, of course, in the absence of that, he’s now, what, the guy who finds himself dazedly wandering around with something sharp and no alibi for whatever the heck just happened while he was incapable of functioning normally?

(Oh, and how great was his girlfriend’s response when he asked her to put that item far, far away from where he’ll be sleepwalking? Gingerly places it on the little table next to the bed? Right by the pillow? Saves time, I guess.)
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