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Old 11-07-2019, 07:45 PM
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Does anyone have experience working with Amazon FIRE Tablet?


It is a great Tablet for $50.
It has Gigabytes of stuff I do not need.

I need a file manager and a good Browser.
Can anyone advice me how to edit preferences?

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Old 11-07-2019, 08:07 PM
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The file manager you want is ES File Explorer, which is available in your Amazon App store and free.

The only way to get around the crappy Silk browser is to sideload the Google Play Store so you can get non-Amazon-approved apps. They really want you to have to use Silk.

There's a good tutorial on that on HowToGeek; lemme dig that up and I'll be right back.

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Old 11-07-2019, 08:29 PM
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Here's how to get the Google Play Store, and the ability to load any Android app (not just the Amazon-approved ones), onto your Fire: https://www.howtogeek.com/232726/how...n-fire-tablet/

Keep in mind that leaving Amazon's walled garden puts a bit more of the security diligence on your shoulders.

Your Preferences are accessed via the sprocket/gear icon on your home page. If you were requesting advice re: what those settings should be, that's a matter of personal (wait for it ...) preference. Myself, I've left most of the defaults in place. YMMV, and if specific queries present themselves, feel free to post them.

Oh, and here's PC Magazine's December 2018 advice on which Amazon Appstore apps you want: https://www.pcmag.com/feature/288380...re-tablet-apps

Enjoy!
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I own two Fire tablets that I use frequently. The advice regarding ES File Explorer is sound. I don't use them for web browsing much, so I can't speak to that. They're great for reading and for games.
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The file manager you want is ES File Explorer, which is available in your Amazon App store and free.

The only way to get around the crappy Silk browser is to sideload the Google Play Store so you can get non-Amazon-approved apps. They really want you to have to use Silk.

There's a good tutorial on that on HowToGeek; lemme dig that up and I'll be right back.

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Thank you! Do I have to register my device in order to get ES File Explorer?
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Here's how to get the Google Play Store, and the ability to load any Android app (not just the Amazon-approved ones), onto your Fire: https://www.howtogeek.com/232726/how...n-fire-tablet/
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ES File Explorer/Manager is pining for the fjords. Try Solid Explorer or CS File Explorer or FX File Explorer.
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IMO Total Commander is the best file manager. It supports bluetooth, windows networking, FTP, Dropbox, zip and rar files, etc. etc. and includes a text editor.
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Solid Explorer or CS File Explorer or FX File Explorer.
Do I have to register my tablet?
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IMO Total Commander is the best file manager. It supports bluetooth, windows networking, FTP, Dropbox, zip and rar files, etc. etc. and includes a text editor.
Thank you! I hope I can download it without registering my tablet.
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ES File Explorer/Manager is pining for the fjords. Try Solid Explorer or CS File Explorer or FX File Explorer.
Fixed: https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/0...-same-network/

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Thank you! Do I have to register my device in order to get ES File Explorer?
No--not if you install the Google Play Store. Then you can get all your apps using that instead, using your Google account. That's what I did on my Fire.

If you want to actually use Amazon-related stuff on the device (including some of the pre-installed apps), you'll need to register your device.

Oh, and if you haven't bought a tablet yet, I would suggest waiting until the Black Friday sale. It will go down in price to like $33, or you can get a model with a bigger screen for the same price.
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Old 11-07-2019, 11:06 PM
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Your article is from January 2019. ES File Explorer was removed from Google Play in April 2019 and remains removed.
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Oh, and if you haven't bought a tablet yet, I would suggest waiting until the Black Friday sale. It will go down in price to like $33, or you can get a model with a bigger screen for the same price.
Given the state of my Trio tablet, I did buy Fire Tablet.
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Your article is from January 2019. ES File Explorer was removed from Google Play in April 2019 and remains removed.
[Walter Sobchak] Hunh. I did not know that. [/Walter Sobchak] And yet it does remain available in the Amazon Appstore (I just checked). I can see how that makes it less advisable, but I'll likely keep it installed on my Fire for a while due to inertia; my Fire tablet is never connected to a network I don't own, so I'm not super concerned about that security risk. But if it's been abandoned by the developer, then yeah, probably not such a good choice for a new tablet.

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I was still using it after April, but getting really tired of how it would constantly bloat to above 500 MB (caching stuff, I assume) with no way to turn it off (and you had to delete data to clear it, not just cache) and stumbled across the removal while searching for alternatives. I used ES mainly for batch renaming files, for Wi-Fi to Wi-Fi file transfers between Android devices (not all if which necessarily have Wi-Fi direct) and for FTPing with desktops. I finally just bit the bullet and found other apps for each (but no one app could do it all.) Even keeping more than one app for some purposes, all six of those apps together weigh in at less than 150 MB--less than a third of what ES would bloat up to be. I replaced ES with:

Solid Explorer

CS File Explorer

FX File Explorer

FTP Server

Rename Photos and Videos

Wi-Fi Direct+
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Old 11-08-2019, 12:48 PM
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Post Scriptum. I left this forum due to political disagreements. But SDMB has best computer experts. From now on I am not here to talk sex, politics, and especially sex politics. Just mostly electronic stuff.
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Working at Da Jungle they of course hand us the things set up for some specific tasks. We can't screw with the software but we find them overall ----- not great. Battery life is iffy sometimes and the things look to be more temp and climate sensitive compared to others out there. But for the bucks --- whadda you expect? Its a good tool but not really what I would call professional grade.
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Old 11-08-2019, 01:05 PM
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Another vote for Total Commander. (I still use File Explorer on some devices, but an old, side-loaded version pre-stupidity.)

I've used Fire 7" for a few years. The most common app I use? Open Sudoku.

The next most common are really a group: various smart device management/blue tooth things.

I rooted mine right away. You never know when/if rooting is possible based on OS, etc.

Remember that $50 is an upper limit. $40 or less is a common sale price. According to camelcamelcamel, it was on sale for $40 in late October. Set up a price watch there. With Black Friday and such coming, it won't be long.
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I used ES for a long time, then they started getting ads and bundled crap. No more.

I use (on regular Android, not sure if it's significantly different on Fire OS) X-Plore. It takes a little getting used to: you swipe to change between your two windows, and moving or copying goes between those two. So you don't pick where to send your files, you open 2 panes and then move between those two.

For browser, sideloading is easy.

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One thing I liked on ES that none of the other managers I've tried have--select interval. You want to do something to a block of files in a larger set of files? Select the first, select the last, click "select interval", it selects everything between the two. Not worth 500 MB just to have that, though.
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Working at Da Jungle they of course hand us the things set up for some specific tasks. We can't screw with the software but we find them overall ----- not great. Battery life is iffy sometimes and the things look to be more temp and climate sensitive compared to others out there. But for the bucks --- whadda you expect? Its a good tool but not really what I would call professional grade.
I am cyberilliterate. I used Trio Tablet for very simple tasks
1) Talking on forums
2) Downloading documentaries
3) Watching documentaries

Trio Tablet was obtained for $40 during Sears going out of business.

It's battery was very very bad. Now not working.
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Another vote for Total Commander. (I still use File Explorer on some devices, but an old, side-loaded version pre-stupidity.)
Can anyone tell me how to get it. I do have three Google accounts.
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I don't have a Kindle Fire (yet--I ordered a used Kindle Fire HD 8 for 30 bucks at the same time I ordered my Vankyo Matrixpad Z1--it was cheap enough that I thought I might as well) but this link (given earlier) seems pretty explanatory. The trick is to use the web browser to download and install the programs that you need.

I have never finagled with sideloading apps on a Kindle (or anything else without the Google Play software built-in) but I did something similar with an older tablet with no file manager. Don't remember if I downloaded the file manager from a site or if I e-mailed it to myself from the PC then opened it on the tablet (either would work), installed the file manager, then connected the tablet to my PC to copy over the APKs that I have stored on the PC. (I download all my apps as APKs instead of letting Google manage them.) I don't know if they would run or not without the Google Play stuff (I'll find out in a couple of days.)

The Total Commander APK (and others) can be downloaded here. Open this link in the browser on your Kindle. Other options are Solid Explorer, FX, and CX.

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Maybe try this?

https://manual.calibre-ebook.com/faq...kindle-fire-hd

I use Calibre, but it's for a Kobo. I always download books on my computer, then transfer them to the Kobo. (The computer, of course, has an even larger capacity.) It's easier to organize the books by "shelves".
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Wait--I see that the Kindle does have it's own file manager. So that removes some steps. Download the APKs you need on your PC (or Mac), plug the Kindle into the computer via USB, copy the files from the computer to the Kindle, install from there.
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The Total Commander APK (and others) can be downloaded here. Open this link in the browser on your Kindle. Other options are Solid Explorer, FX, and CX.
Thank you. Downloaded.
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Wait--I see that the Kindle does have it's own file manager. So that removes some steps. Download the APKs you need on your PC (or Mac), plug the Kindle into the computer via USB, copy the files from the computer to the Kindle, install from there.
Will do. Already on this Laptop from which I am typing.
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Works very well! Came with a word editor.
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Can I remove any of the multiple applications I do not use?
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My Kindle Fire HD 8 (7th gen) arrived today (t is cosmetically perfect even though used). All I had to do was plug it in and copy over APKs to make them work, no need to install the Google apps yet (though these were free apps--pay apps will probably different.) Installed my comic reader and ebook reader with no problems. Even my alternate launcher works, though I have to manually start it each time. There seems to be a hack for that, though, that I will look into.
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Thank you. I have now installed the Firefox Aurora Browser. Does anyone know how to work with it? No bookmarks are displayed. No add-ons work.
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Piggybacking: can anyone tell me why my Fire 7 (bought in 2015) won't connect to my Windows 10 PC? When I plug in the USB cable, the Fire gives a chime, but it doesn't show up on my desktop File Explorer. Everything I've read online says it should show up as an external drive that I can then transfer files to.
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Donno the answer to the above two questions off-hand but gotta say I'm loving my Fire HD. Bought the cheap used one to experiment on as an afterthought on a bigger Amazon order, and my only regret is that I bought the $65 new 7 inch tablet that was one of my primary purchases. I had never bought a fire before because I was concerned with if I could sideload the apps I wanted with it or if I would be buying a poke-based pig, but setting up my main reading apps (ComiCat and Moonreader+) was utterly devoid of problems. (Of course, the lack of GPS and Incredibly Shitty Camera limit what other apps I could add.)
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Piggybacking: can anyone tell me why my Fire 7 (bought in 2015) won't connect to my Windows 10 PC? When I plug in the USB cable, the Fire gives a chime, but it doesn't show up on my desktop File Explorer. Everything I've read online says it should show up as an external drive that I can then transfer files to.
For my device bought few days ago, I use

Settings --> Connected Devices --> USB --> Transfer files

All done while the device is connected.
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For my device bought few days ago, I use

Settings --> Connected Devices --> USB --> Transfer files

All done while the device is connected.
All I get under Devices/USB is an offer to notify me if there are connection problems. This is Windows 10 Pro 1903.
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