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Old 09-28-2019, 10:41 AM
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This Is Us: Season 4


Season 4 started this week and I didn't see a thread yet. Anyone still watching?

The first episode was very reminiscent of the pilot, with stories about several seemingly unrelated people and you're trying to figure out how it all fits together.

Plus, a mini "House" reunion with both Jennifer Morrison and Omar Epps!
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Old 09-28-2019, 04:14 PM
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Except for the beginning with Jack and Rebecca meeting her parents for dinner, I thought I was watching a completely different show, given how none of the characters were recognizable. But by the end, we learned how these new people relate to the ones we already know. The question raised by the recap at the AV Club website is whether adding this many new characters is going to cause the show to fall apart. And one of the new characters is at least a couple of decades into the future, so the writers may need to dance around showing or not showing future technology and culture.
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Old 09-28-2019, 07:00 PM
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As I understand it, the showrunners have everything laid out for future seasons, including the ending. We won't be skipping around like Lost.

I'm glad we got to know who was connected with whom at the end. I'm wondering about the younger Big 3...surely those actors have aged up, so we may not see 10-year-olds anymore.

The actor who plays Blind Jack is actually blind, so nice bit of casting there.
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Old 09-30-2019, 09:53 AM
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I'm definitely watching. I thought it was a great episode. I also noticed the "House" reunion.

I think Omar Epps' speech to his son about responsibility was great.
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Old 09-30-2019, 03:21 PM
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I am surprised they are making Deja a major character this season. At least her baby daddy is getting a story arc, she was still hardly seen.
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Old 09-30-2019, 03:23 PM
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Wait - that's Deja's baby? What did I miss?
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Old 09-30-2019, 03:24 PM
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No, I don't think that was her baby. As I followed the story, she met the baby's father for the first time at that barbeque.
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OK, whew!
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Did I miss something? Where is the indication that Deja has a baby?
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Deja met a boy at a BBQ who already has a baby.
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Old 10-01-2019, 11:33 AM
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First, they showed the teenage baby daddy. Then showed him meeting Deja at a barbecue. Since this show is not known for linear story telling, I assumed they were backing up to show where the baby came from.
I am usually not good at calling plot shockers, so I am probably incorrect.
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Old 10-01-2019, 11:43 AM
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By "teenage baby daddy" are you referring to the man who was shown as the loving single parent to that infant? In my limited experience, baby daddy (a noxious term) is used for a man who fathers a child, perhaps out of wedlock, but has no further involvement in raising or caring for the child. What we were shown (so far) is the complete opposite of that and it's obnoxious to refer to him as such.
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The grandpa volunteered to babysit so the teen dad could go to the barbecue... which is where he met Deja.
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Old 10-01-2019, 12:38 PM
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By "teenage baby daddy" are you referring to the man who was shown as the loving single parent to that infant? In my limited experience, baby daddy (a noxious term) is used for a man who fathers a child, perhaps out of wedlock, but has no further involvement in raising or caring for the child. What we were shown (so far) is the complete opposite of that and it's obnoxious to refer to him as such.
I'm not fond of the term, either. What's wrong with just calling a man a dad? However, your understanding is off a bit. According to Miriam-Webster, a "baby daddy" is:

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especially : one who is not married to or in a long-term, intimate relationship with the child's mother
There's nothing in the definition that means a man who has no further involvement with his child. In fact, a TV series called Baby Daddy (Full disclosure: I never saw the show.) was about a man who found a baby on his doorstep--his own from a one-night stand--on his doorstep and raises the child.
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When I googled, other dictionaries included the idea that the child's father was absentee or not involved in raising the child (including the Cambridge English Dictionary and who knows American slang better than a group of Cambridge dons?). Either way though, I see no reason to use the term to refer to the child's father in that episode.

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The grandpa volunteered to babysit so the teen dad could go to the barbecue... which is where he met Deja.
This is a key scene I missed that changes my prediction about Deja.

And I used the term baby daddy in the sense of "father of the child who is not in a relationship with the mother". I meant it as a casual nickname and not as a slam on the guy, who so far is shown as a responsible parent.
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Yikes nobody's talking about this show anymore. To me it's actually gotten more interesting. I really enjoyed this season, especially this week's episode focusing on Deja's relationship with Randall and the new boyfriend and how he makes her feel like she's found her place compared with Randall's relationship with his own dad and the teacher that made Randal recognize his place.
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The last couple of episodes have been a bit slow, but I still enjoy the show. I like that they're keeping the 10 year old actors now as pre-teens...nice bit of continuity there.

Jack was being an ass and I'm so glad Becca put him in his place. Pre-teen Kevin was also an ass.

I love how Randall and Beth can get the parenting down without losing their temper. Lots of thick tension there but the point was definitely made with Malik's parents and vice versa. I think that young actor is a beautiful young man...he looks so much younger than 16.

I'm not familiar with Philly...that last scene on the water, with the building lit up? What building was that?
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I was disappointed when in the previous episode (the golf one) Kevin slept with the veteran who was estranged from her husband.
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I was disappointed when in the previous episode (the golf one) Kevin slept with the veteran who was estranged from her husband.
I am so grateful for your reply because I was confused by your comment until I went to Hulu and realized I completely missed that episode. Hulu's personalized system has failed me a few times this year. I even missed The Simpsons' Halloween episode this year until after Halloween. Where's the fun in that?
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In that case, sorry for spoiling the episode for you.
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In that case, sorry for spoiling the episode for you.
Well honestly I kind of saw it coming. This show is like that though, they have a lot of foreshadowing that seems so obvious, but then enough surprises that I keep coming back. It didn't bother me either that he was with a married woman because it seemed that they were broken up already and it looked hopeless. He shouldn't be having sex with her for AA reasons I guess but "the heart wants what the heart wants" and both their hearts seemed to wanna do it. Hopefully their story will have a happy ending because the Zoe thing seemed doomed from the start anyway.

I loved the golf story so much though. Randall's story is more fascinating to me than the rest.
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...that last scene on the water, with the building lit up? What building was that?
That is Boathouse Row, on the Schuylkill River, just a little North of the art museum and across the river from the zoo.
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Old 11-10-2019, 07:55 AM
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Thanks for bumping the thread. We've had to DVR a couple of episodes and catch up the following week, so I haven't been staying current.

I too, really enjoyed the Randall golfing episode. First I thought it took real guts to risk looking like a complete idiot on the golf course just to try to mend fences with the other councilmen. But then to discover that he was "playing down" to them the whole time... Just perfect.

I'm curious to see where they go with Kate and her record store boyfriend. I get the feeling he must have been abusive or something.
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I was disappointed when in the previous episode (the golf one) Kevin slept with the veteran who was estranged from her husband.
I, too, was highly disappointed. Most of this show is a family trying to do the right things all the time. There is nothing right about sleeping with a married woman. And he didn't even have alcohol to blame.

Damn you, Kevin!

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I too, really enjoyed the Randall golfing episode. First I thought it took real guts to risk looking like a complete idiot on the golf course just to try to mend fences with the other councilmen. But then to discover that he was "playing down" to them the whole time... Just perfect.
Not perfect.

Randall was deceptive, conniving and manipulative. Of course, the end justifies the means, right? On what basis did he decide that the best approach was to lie about his golf ability?

Also, Kevin is the actor, not Randall. It's unrealistic to have Randall "stay in character" for the 3-4 hours of a golf game and not have any of the three men notice that he's better than what he pretended to be.

And how long does Randall expect to carry on the ruse? Did nobody notice him at the driving range?
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I hated Deja's boyfriend. I don't know why his interference bothered me so much when Randall's flashback interference didn't. I think they were supposed to both work together and show that the boyfriend (Malik?) is a good person just like Randall but I got creepy control freak vibes. I didn't get supportive person trying to help Deja find the courage to speak up. I found him bossy and way out of line. And then talking to Bethany like they were PEERS. I found it too familiar and just plain yuck.

Not that I think he was wrong in principle, but I thought the execution was not endearing. I don't think the show was trying to go for a pre-stalker, emotional abuser thing.
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It sounds like Rebecca is showing the first signs of Alzheimer's or some other memory disorder. I think that explains who Randall and his daughter were on their way to visit a season or two ago.
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I think so too. I think she's taking so many pictures because she can't remember things.

Anyone else catch the shout out to Once Upon a Time?
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It's a good show, but I'm about sick to death of adult Kate and Toby, and the baby doesn't interest me in the least. It's the weakest part of the show.
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I'm interested in seeing how they tie Toby and Kate's story together. IIRC, it's implied at the end of the last season, where Rebecca is dying, that they are no longer together.

Honestly, the thing with the avocado was a bit silly. Maybe because they're first time parents, and I understand Toby missing a couple of "firsts" but Kate was overly upset about it. Couldn't she just take it as First Time Daddy Feeds Baby Jack Avocado?
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