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Old 11-08-2019, 08:38 PM
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OHHH, not just Sondland under the bus but also Giuliani and Mulvaney.
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So, all these individuals conspired to do something that *only* benefitted Donald Trump -- and didn't tell Donald Trump?
The competition for "most deliriously-ridiculous defense of Trump's attempted extortion of Ukraine" is fierce, even cutthroat.

But we may have a winner: the idea that Sondland or Giuliani or Mulvaney would have had anything whatsoever to gain from having the Ukrainian President announce a (specious) investigation into Joe and Hunter Biden.

If even one Trump-defender ventures to try to come up with any explanation of what that supposed benefit would have been, I'll eat my computer monitor.

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The competition for "most deliriously-ridiculous defense of Trump's attempted extortion of Ukraine" is fierce, even cutthroat.

But we may have a winner: the idea that Sondland or Giuliani or Mulvaney would have had anything whatsoever to gain from having the Ukrainian President announce a (specious) investigation into Joe and Hunter Biden.

If even one Trump-defender ventures to try to come up with any explanation of what that supposed benefit would have been, I'll eat my computer monitor.
We also have the transcript that Trump released of his perfect phone call. If Sondland, Giuliani, and Mulvaney cooked up the whole quid pro quo without Trump's knowledge, what was the favor that Trump wanted the President of Ukraine to do for him?
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Old 11-08-2019, 10:05 PM
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I'm just waiting (sarcasm) for the flag wavin' rootin' tootin' gun havin' superpatriot MAGAts to start their rebellion / civil war if / when Trump is impeached and drummed out or loses.
There may be a few dozen that use it as an excuse to riot and loot the stores in their town (not sarcasm). Just, of course, to teach them crooked socialists a lesson, and hey, they wanted a new TV anyway (not sarcasm either).
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Old 11-08-2019, 10:14 PM
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We also have the transcript …
No, we have no such thing.
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Old 11-08-2019, 10:20 PM
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Trump has a possible trip planned for 2020. Guess where: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...Cd_dTENfSI6lNU

Well, Putin is going to throw a big military parade...and we all know how the Pres loves big military parades.

*Sigh*--I guess I can see this--Russia probably has the most to remember as they suffered the most from WWII and it's the 75th anniversary--but jeez, you'd kinda think we'd join in with our other allies...you know, the democratic ones?
He planning on coming back?
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Old 11-08-2019, 11:43 PM
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We also have the transcript that Trump released of his perfect phone call. If Sondland, Giuliani, and Mulvaney cooked up the whole quid pro quo without Trump's knowledge, what was the favor that Trump wanted the President of Ukraine to do for him?
No, we have a summary.
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Old 11-09-2019, 12:31 AM
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I think the strategy for GOP may be, “It was Sondland, Mulvaney, and Gulliani, not he!”, trying their best to exonerate Trump.
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Old 11-09-2019, 12:55 AM
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I think the strategy for GOP may be, “It was Sondland, Mulvaney, and Gulliani, not he!”, trying their best to exonerate Trump.
Gordy and Mickey and Rudy, oh my!
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I think the strategy for GOP may be, “It was Sondland, Mulvaney, and Gulliani, not he!”, trying their best to exonerate Trump.
They do believe in Trump. They do believe in Trump. They do! They do! They do! They do believe in Trump.
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Well, Robot Arm's question is still good. Of course Repubs will hand wave it away and claim Hillary and Obama sneaked into trump's bedroom the night before and hypnotized him into making that phone call, but the question remains. If Sondland et al cooked up this plan for Zelensky to announce an investigation of the Bidens (for what benefit to them? never mind!), then what was trump talking about on the phone call?

He himself released the rough summary of the call, so apparently he endorses that he made it and spoke a rough approximation of those words.

So either trump was involved in the scheme or he was manipulated into pursuing it. Either way not good.

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Old 11-09-2019, 08:52 AM
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The guy over at fake-news-network provides us with a list of two score statements from CFSG's Friday press conferency thing. He tries to keep it together, but about halfway through, his head asplodes.
It's like a stream of consciousness of lies.
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Old 11-09-2019, 09:26 AM
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Except for the "consciousness" part.
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Old 11-09-2019, 09:52 AM
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The guy over at fake-news-network provides us with a list of two score statements from CFSG's Friday press conferency thing. He tries to keep it together, but about halfway through, his head asplodes.
“Press conference?”

More like a “Hot Mess conference.”
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Old 11-09-2019, 09:55 AM
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We also have the transcript that Trump released of his perfect phone call. If Sondland, Giuliani, and Mulvaney cooked up the whole quid pro quo without Trump's knowledge, what was the favor that Trump wanted the President of Ukraine to do for him?
He wanted to borrow Z’s power saw.
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Old 11-09-2019, 10:01 AM
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Old 11-09-2019, 10:11 AM
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Well, Robot Arm's question is still good. Of course Repubs will hand wave it away and claim Hillary and Obama sneaked into trump's bedroom the night before and hypnotized him into making that phone call, but the question remains. If Sondland et al cooked up this plan for Zelensky to announce an investigation of the Bidens (for what benefit to them? never mind!), then what was trump talking about on the phone call?

He himself released the rough summary of the call, so apparently he endorses that he made it and spoke a rough approximation of those words.

So either trump was involved in the scheme or he was manipulated into pursuing it. Either way not good.
Hasn't this concept been a running joke for the last couple of years? Tell Trump that something was someone else's idea and he will start insisting that he is responsible for everything. Isn't that basically where this defense is headed? Trump wasn't behind the quid pro quo that didn't exist, the three amigos were. Trump didn't initiate the perfect phone call, he was manipulated into it. If Fox and Friends even hint at this defense, Trump will start tweeting like a mofo about how he is completely in charge and no one could ever manipulate him. This has such potential to backfire that it makes me wonder if the deep state is behind it. Or ThelmaLou.
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What is this shit I am hearing now? He says the Democrats should not be having public hearings? What script is he reading from? Someone needs to fire the director.
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The only consistency in Republican talking points is: whatever the Democrats are doing, they want to do the opposite.
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The guy over at fake-news-network provides us with a list of two score statements from CFSG's Friday press conferency thing. He tries to keep it together, but about halfway through, his head asplodes.
Oh my word.
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We also have the transcript that Trump released of his perfect phone call. If Sondland, Giuliani, and Mulvaney cooked up the whole quid pro quo without Trump's knowledge, what was the favor that Trump wanted the President of Ukraine to do for him?
And let's not forget that the same week that the transcript (or summary) of the phone call where Trump asked Zelensky to dig up dirt on the Bidens was released, Trump live, in front of TV cameras, asked China to do the same damn thing!
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For your amusement, someone actually went into a bookstore and replaced all the jackets on juniors book with ones that read “Daddy Please Love Me – how everything I do is to try to earn my fathers love”.
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The only consistency in Republican talking points is: whatever the Democrats are doing, they want to do the opposite.
...until they don't!
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...until they don't!
Of course, it is always their idea when they decide to do the opposite of what they didn't want to not do.

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Of course, it is always their idea when they decide to do the opposite of what they didn't want to not do.
Definitely.
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Old 11-09-2019, 07:45 PM
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During the pregame festivities in Tuscaloosa, someone brought a baby-CFSG balloon. Not surprisingly, it was attacked by a raving MAGAt (redundant?) who slashed it.
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Old 11-09-2019, 08:38 PM
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Alabama subsequently lost the game, their first home loss in, IORC, 4 years.
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Alabama subsequently lost the game, their first home loss in, IORC, 4 years.
This came across my Facebook feed:

The sports gods have spoken: Boo trump and be rewarded with a championship. Cheer him and be defeated on your home turf. Choose wisely.
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Not liking either team, I didn't watch the game. How did Trump's quest for validation go last night? Did he finally get cheered at a sporting event?
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Yes. He was cheered by 80,000 uneducated white men while watching a bunch of black guys play college sports.
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Did the president of the United States spend two weeks trying to find an sporting event that he could attend where he wouldn't be booed? Could that possibly be sadder?
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It's a sign. Omens and portents. Omens and portents.
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What is this shit I am hearing now? He says the Democrats should not be having public hearings? What script is he reading from? Someone needs to fire the director.
Of course they switched up now. And Graham has decided to not read ANYTHING connected to it at all.

Fucking traitors. Every last stinking one of them. Them and their fucking "base".
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Did the president of the United States spend two weeks trying to find an sporting event that he could attend where he wouldn't be booed? Could that possibly be sadder?
I mean, maybe if it took *three* weeks and *four* attempts?
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Yes. He was cheered by 80,000 uneducated white men while watching a bunch of black guys play college sports.
A group of black people stood up with the letters IMPEACH written on their shirts. I don't know if they were kicked out or not.
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Individual 1 is supposed to do something at the Veterans Day Parade in New York tomorrow, I don't know exactly what it entails. He won't be IN the parade. I hope it's something public for maximum boos.
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Old 11-10-2019, 02:33 PM
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Individual 1 is supposed to do something at the Veterans Day Parade in New York tomorrow, I don't know exactly what it entails. He won't be IN the parade. I hope it's something public for maximum boos.
A Veterans Day Parade in NEW YORK? I hope he goes. I suspect he's gonna Tweet something from Mar-a-Lago.
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He won't be IN the parade.
He totally should though. Somewhere among the VA guys. He was cripplingly wounded before combat, you know ? If anything he should seize the opportunity to award himself a purple heart.
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A group of black people stood up with the letters IMPEACH written on their shirts. I don't know if they were kicked out or not.
Trump: They were sitting wrong! They meant to say (insert your preferred anagram from here)!
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Epic Ham. That's Tan the Conman.
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No. That's BRIAN BLESSED!. And I won't let you besmirch him so.
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He totally should though.
Nah. His bone spurs are acting up.
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It’s hard to believe the short-fingered vulgarian will ever make a public appearance in New York again. Booing is the least of what he’d get. With all the overstocked grocery stores, we have mountains of spoiled produce to throw. Plenty of dogshit, also too.
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He formally changed his permanent residence to Mar A Lago, in Florida. So of course he's not going to spend much time in New York in the future.
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He formally changed his permanent residence to Mar A Lago, in Florida. So of course he's not going to spend much time in New York in the future.
Hmmm... I wonder if Melania's official residence is still the apt in NYC?
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