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Old 10-05-2019, 09:17 AM
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Supergirl Season 5


The fifth season of Supergirl premieres Sunday at 9 pm ET, after the series premiere of Batwoman. Last season was probably their best one so far. They not only doubled down on the political theme - with illegal aliens this time - but also threw Lex Luthor into the mix. Here's hoping the new season will be as good if not better than the last.

Cast changes: Azie Tesfai (Kelly Olsen) and Andrea Brooks (Miss Tessmacher!) have been bumped up to series regulars. Joining the main cast are Julie Gonzalo as Andrea Rojas and Staz Nair as William Dey. April Parker Jones is not longer listed as a cast member, so I guess Col. Haley's appointment as Secretary of Alien Affairs will stick.

Comic-Con 2019 Sizzle: https://youtu.be/M_FBPbfkcrk
Event Horizon trailer: https://youtu.be/2-6Bhabq72E
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S05E01: Event Horizon

SEASON PREMIERE - Kara is surprised to find that CatCo has a new owner who has brought in a star reporter. New couples emerge and explore their budding relationships while J'onn J'onzz receives an unexpected visitor.
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A fine if not particularly spectacular season premiere. Is this season going to be all about clickbait and fake news? If so, count me in. This should give Kara more opportunity to show her reporter side over her Supergirl side, while delivering more social commentary.

I was going to be disappointed with how the episode was turning out, when Lena seemingly accepted Kara's confession that she's Supergirl seemingly with no problems. She even stopped the upload of the reveal to CatCo's new owner. But it turns out she has a much more nefarious plan. What it is we don't know yet, but I'm going to guess that it involves Lena going full Luthor. Why else would she develop an AI that could formulate a way to kill Supergirl?

ETA: Oh, yeah. When is Miss Tessmacher! going to show up?

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ETA: Oh, yeah. When is Miss Tessmacher! going to show up?
Wasn’t she the waitress getting abducted at the end of the episode?
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Not a fan of the new look Supergirl. Hate the bangs. Hate the new uniform. The whipping off the glasses trigger is too much for me. Not to mention we'll see less of Kara's legs. The newspaper turning into clickbait isn't a compelling storyline. Lena turning evil is disappointing and I think detracts from her character.

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Wasn’t she the waitress getting abducted at the end of the episode?
You are correct. I got distracted at the end when Lena went back into the matrix to indulge her fantasies of killing Supergirl. She punched towards the camera and there was cut to black. It was at that moment I looked away for some reason and when I looked back the credits were already rolling. Only caught Miss Tessmacher's short appearance on rewatch.
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Finally watching the episode, and just watched the scene where new girl takes over the paper and Olsen threatens to walk. Do the writers not understand contracts, or do they think that viewers don't understand contracts? Dumb and Dumber had smarter protagonists.
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So will anyone notice that Kara and Supergirl both started sporting bangs on the same day?
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Finally watching the episode, and just watched the scene where new girl takes over the paper and Olsen threatens to walk. Do the writers not understand contracts, or do they think that viewers don't understand contracts? Dumb and Dumber had smarter protagonists.
I'd like to think that Earth-38 is a world where the 13th Amendment was never passed, hence the new boss unilaterally extending everyone's contracts as if they didn't get a say in it.
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So will anyone notice that Kara and Supergirl both started sporting bangs on the same day?
It's not like Kara was in front of a big crowd with photographers, wearing her new hairstyle, and then Supergirl turned up, so that the whole crowd could make the comparison. Oh, wait.
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S05E02: Stranger Beside Me


TECHNOLOGY BECOMES THE NEW THREAT- Supergirl, Alex, and Brainiac thwart an alien attack while William investigates Kara. J'onn J'onzz and Kelly use Obsidian tech to solve a problem.

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Given how quickly the previous Batwoman episode moved its plot along, I found tonight's Supergirl episode rather slow and ponderous. A good portion was occupied with CW relationship crap. I can tolerate that in small doses, but tonight was had to contend with two. Brainy/Nia was mostly amusing, but Alex/Kelly was too angst-ridden for my taste. I can only hope that Kara doesn't get into a relationship. (But she probably will with William, isn't she?)

The highlight of the episode was the fight between Supergirl and the Martian-as-Alex.

I guess I was wrong about the overall theme of the season. It's about clickbait and fake news (except in an incidental manner), but rather the isolation caused by technology and other detrimental effects. Poor Eve Tessmacher. Has she really been subsumed by the AI? Lena Luthor is coming along nicely as a super-villain.
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I'm puzzled by William - something about the way he refers to his wife makes her seem fictional, and his work at the soup kitchen just raises more questions.

Agree - Poor Eve.
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It's about clickbait and fake news (except in an incidental manner), but rather the isolation caused by technology and other detrimental effects.
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I'm puzzled by William - something about the way he refers to his wife makes her seem fictional, and his work at the soup kitchen just raises more questions.
He's investigating Andrrrrea Rrrrrojas, who we all can agree is bad. He finished Kara's work for her and he volunteers at a soup kitchen. He must be a good guy, right? Plus he and Kara are arguing like a bad parody of a rom-com. You know where the writers are going with this.
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He's investigating Andrrrrea Rrrrrojas, who we all can agree is bad. He finished Kara's work for her and he volunteers at a soup kitchen. He must be a good guy, right? Plus he and Kara are arguing like a bad parody of a rom-com. You know where the writers are going with this.
Ah. That makes sense. I should have realized that his employment for Rojas just started - coincident with his apparent swerve towards petty evil, making the "undercover" possibility a strong one.
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S05E03: Blurred Lines


BE CAREFUL WHO YOU TRUST- Kara attempts to mend her relationship with Lena. J'onn J'onzz takes a deep dive into his memories while Kelly tries to help an old friend.

Blurred Lines promo: https://youtu.be/j26DzX1v7qk

Oliver Queen can tell you: The Crisis is upon us! I've started a separate thread for the Crisis on Infinite Earths.
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Between all the various plot threads - Nia & Brainy, Lena & Hope, Kara & Lena, Kara & William, J'onn & M'aleficent, Alex & Kelly, Kelly and (fake) Pete - I'm not really sure where this season is going. The show was more than half over before Supergirl even confronted the villain-of-the-week. They hustled Kelly and Jimmy off to some safehouse somewhere, so maybe the next few episodes can focus on, I dunno, the coming Crisis? After all, the Monitor brought M'aleficent back for a reason.
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This show is a hot mess of the worst superhero writing tropes. I'm not looking for ultra-realistic physics and continuity, but some realism and continuity of powers would be nice. The only thing that they hung a lampshade on was J'onn's memories featuring humans, not martians (with the real reason being cost considerations).
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I laughed out loud when James inadvertently gave Kara the worst possible advice at the worst possible time.
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Last season was probably their best one so far. They not only doubled down on the political theme - with illegal aliens this time - but also threw Lex Luthor into the mix. Here's hoping the new season will be as good if not better than the last.
And here I am trying to slog through season 4 because of how ham-fisted they treated the political theme.
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And here I am trying to slog through season 4 because of how ham-fisted they treated the political theme.
Have you been keeping up with news? This isn't really a time of subtlety. Anyway, keep at it. All will become clear.
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Have you been keeping up with news? This isn't really a time of subtlety. Anyway, keep at it. All will become clear.
See the problem is that Mexicans aren’t trying to enslave the world. In Supergirl aliens already did. #agentlibertywasright
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See the problem is that Mexicans aren’t trying to enslave the world. In Supergirl aliens already did. #agentlibertywasright
During the episode that showed Agent Liberty's backstory, I actually found myself agreeing with him until he fell off the deep end. The mark of a good villain.
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S05E04: In Plain Sight


SAYING GOODBYE IS HARD TO DO - Kara's investigation into William Dey's "criminal" activities results in the shocking revelation he is not who she thinks. Meanwhile, the conflict between Malefic and J'onn J'onzz reaches a boiling point.

In Plain Sight promo: https://youtu.be/TGI_zd8BC80
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"Simon Kirby" - heh.
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I thought they were sending Jimmy and Kelly in hiding somewhere so we wouldn't have to deal with them for a while. Instead, we get to see them take a vacation, dispensing some social justice while they're at it. And so we get another irrelevant storyline starring Jimmy Olsen, newspaper publisher. Great. (Unless Jimmy is leaving the show permanently? One can only hope.)

Supergirl and the D.E.O. are taking a page out of the Flash and S.T.A.R. Labs by letting the villain get away again and again. Although the second time really isn't on them, since they thought they had succeeded in banishing M'aleficent back to the Phantom Zone, but Lena siphoned him off for her own nefarious purposes. Or maybe it is on them since they're entirely too trusting with Lena. C'mon, guys, she's a Luthor.

I was wondering how they were going to shoot around Andrea Brooks's pregnancy. It seems they're using the time-honored approach of hiding her belly behind some furniture.

William comes clean to Kara. His wife is fake, he's working for the Times, he's investigating Andrea Rojas, he really likes Kara's writing. He volunteers at soup kitchen. He's such a good guy. I just am shocked - SHOCKED!
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"Simon Kirby" - heh.
To elaborate - the Newsboy Legion, which this character is intended to evoke, was created by Joe Simon and Jack Kirby.

All credit to Terminus Est for predicting the William Day's arc (unless his over the top praise of Kara's writing is a ploy!).
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The only thing that hasn't happened yet is for Kara and William to hook up. 🤮

I went digging and it seems it was previously announced that Mehcad Brooks is leaving the show. So I guess we just witnessed Jimmy Olsen's farewell.

In other news, the CW are considering a Superman and Lois spinoff with Tyler Hoechlin and Elizabeth Tulloch.
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I went digging and it seems it was previously announced that Mehcad Brooks is leaving the show. So I guess we just witnessed Jimmy Olsen's farewell.
Once he wasn't the love interest anymore, he had no purpose. I like The Guardian, but he doesn't work next to Supergirl.
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For the love of Og, please, please no. They've done so well introducing unknown heroes (outside of comic fans, that is), keep doing that. But angsty action romance is CW's wheelhouse for the most part. Gives their fans lots to ship.
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S05E05: Dangerous Liaisons


A NEW DANGER ARISES - On the eve of the worldwide launch of Andrea Rojas's VR contact lenses, Kara and William team up on an investigation that exposes a terrorist plot. Kelly and Alex celebrate an anniversary, but Alex's safety is in jeopardy.

Dangerous Liaisons promo: https://youtu.be/ZAj349E1wX8
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I did like that bit where Jimmy tells the kid "Don't call me chief!" I wish he could have invoked Great Caesar's Ghost as well.

The show is going downhill in my opinion. Lena's character is way over the top, how can she be so expert in so many things? And so Kara didn't tell her she was Supergirl for a while. Boo fucking hoo. Oh my God, my friend kept a secret from me as well as 99.99999% of humanity. I think I'll turn into a super villain.
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I did like that bit where Jimmy tells the kid "Don't call me chief!" I wish he could have invoked Great Caesar's Ghost as well.

The show is going downhill in my opinion. Lena's character is way over the top, how can she be so expert in so many things? And so Kara didn't tell her she was Supergirl for a while. Boo fucking hoo. Oh my God, my friend kept a secret from me as well as 99.99999% of humanity. I think I'll turn into a super villain.
Someone noted that the last season finale hinted at how enjoyable Brainy could’ve been as this year’s villain: still doing his offbeat schtick of not quite getting what it means to be hyoo-man, while genuinely seeming like he can be reasoned with (even though, no, he’s all-in on some ideas that badly need work).

I’m guessing that would’ve been more entertaining than, y’know, this.
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Oh, great. To no one's surprise, Kara horns in on William's business and even brings him in to the D.E.O. to watch the interrogation of that assassin she tangled with in Mexico. Although I do enjoy it when Kara has to disguise the use of her powers when a civilian is present. But it's only a matter of time before she reveals to him that she's Supergirl.

Lena took another stop on the road to super-villainy. She got what she wanted from M'aleficent and even manipulated his mind to make him more content. Maybe it's time to let him go now? The Monitor brought him here for a reason. Wouldn't like it if his plans got subverted. When are we going to get anything related to the Crisis?

So Dreamer was able to stop the tsunami crashing on to National City, but what about the rest of the Pacific coast? Do the writers even realize how many miles of coastline that is? The Pacific Ocean takes up a full half of the planet!

I thought it fairly obvious that Doc Ock was William's friend. Why couldn't Supergirl just peek under that mask with her X-ray vision?
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It seems like the writing is getting lazier and the actors are starting to phone it in. Too many subplots, too many aliens, too many people in on Supergirl's identity. As much as I enjoyed the first season, it's jumping the shark this year.
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I did like that bit where Jimmy tells the kid "Don't call me chief!" I wish he could have invoked Great Caesar's Ghost as well.

The show is going downhill in my opinion. Lena's character is way over the top, how can she be so expert in so many things? And so Kara didn't tell her she was Supergirl for a while. Boo fucking hoo. Oh my God, my friend kept a secret from me as well as 99.99999% of humanity. I think I'll turn into a super villain.
It was weird that Lena focused on Kara when she was trying to make common cause with Mal - seems like when trying to convince a guy who is obsessed by his brother's betrayal that you have a lot in common, you should talk more about how you were betrayed by your own brother (which, of course, Lena was).
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And so Kara didn't tell her she was Supergirl for a while. Boo fucking hoo. Oh my God, my friend kept a secret from me as well as 99.99999% of humanity. I think I'll turn into a super villain.
In the original comic books, Lex Luthor became Superman's — actually, Suberboy's, I think — arch enemy because Kal was the one who made him lose his hair. Accidentally. While saving his life.

Even that was more believable than Lena's motivation for her turn to the dark side.

Let's face it, this show has never been ... y'know ... good, but I've been watching since the beginning. And even as stupid as Lena's butthurt is, and her plan to permanently alter human behavior is, I'll probably keep watching.
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Interesting how Flash and GA are "all in" on "prelude to Crisis", but nothing (yet) from Supergirl.
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It seems like the writing is getting lazier and the actors are starting to phone it in. Too many subplots, too many aliens, too many people in on Supergirl's identity. As much as I enjoyed the first season, it's jumping the shark this year.
The Flash this season has as many if not more open plotlines (as well as everyone knowing about Barry Allen) and yet it doesn't feel directionless at all. Everything is hyperfocused on the Crisis or the Big Bad. Even the subplots also advance one (if not both) of the two main plots.

In contrast, Supergirl has had absolutely nothing about the Crisis. We don't even know who the Big Bad is supposed to be. Is it M'aleficent? Andrea Rojas? Lena Luthor? Leviathan? Instead, this show seems to want to just advance all the ships - Nia/Brainy, Kelly/Alex, Kara/Lena, Kara/William. Makes you wish the Anti-Monitor would come and destroy it all, sooner rather than later.
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S05E06: Confidence Women


PIECE TOGETHER THE PAST - While a new villain is under arrest at the DEO, Supergirl uses him to try and understand who is responsible for the recent attacks. Meanwhile, Andrea and Lena think back on their tumultuous past.

Confidence Women promo: https://youtu.be/FKHfYyZqdaE
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This is the episode where we get to see the secret origin of the Big Bad. Except that it featured both Lena Luthor and Andrea Rojas and their relationship with each other. So we still who is going to be the real super-villain. Maybe it's Leviathan, but they don't seem to have much of an agenda other than to make life difficult for Lena and Andrea.

The episode was kind of all over the place - Lara Croft, Lex Luthor, Ravi Chakrabati, horrendous flashback wigs, magic medallions. Then there's the rather unwelcome development that Andrea apparently has superpowers. Plus William got to see inside the D.E.O.
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S05E07: Tremors


SOMETIMES THE PERSON YOU WOULD TAKE A BULLET FOR IS STANDING BEHIND THE TRIGGER - Supergirl finally learns the truth about Lena while tangling with Leviathan. J'onn J'onnz makes a discovery about his brother's whereabouts.

Tremors promo: https://youtu.be/Eg8laqo4e8U
Tremors sneak peek: https://youtu.be/W9KFdpUNxG0
Tremors sneak peek #2: https://youtu.be/nlcqsyx-J14
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Leviathan turns out to be a bunch of guilt-ridden tree-huggers whose ship crashed on Earth and inadvertently wiped out the dinosaurs. That is both awesome and underwhelming at the same time. If they really wanted to save the planet, they could have done a better job of keeping humanity in check.

It's always a pleasure to see Carl Lumbly come back, but J'onn really has to stop relying on his father as a crutch. The Martian Manhunter should be out manhunting for real.

Kelly is the new Jimmy. She's got the ability to bring the momentum of an episode to a crashing halt. Was her mini-drama with Alex really necessary?

I'm glad Lena has finally come out to Kara. Myriad is certainly a blast from the past, perfect for what Lena intends to do with it. And now we're left with a cliffhanger since the show is taking a break next week.
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